Creation Sharing Cologne Aachen 2023 Timetable (version 17) - Ready To Use

Version 5 is uploaded

Changes:

• RB 26 and RB 27 finished
• BR 442 uses DRA stock
• BR 146 and DoSto use DRA stock
• some service fixes

Known issues

• service with Karlsruher starts partially outside platform

 

When I select the DB BR 204 "Shunting (49564) Stolberg Part 3" I spawn at random locations and not in the train

 

I spawn in the train but not at the start of the service. It somehow starts in the middle of it because the service start time is wrong. Had a similar problem before, the fix is to explicitly state the service start times in editor and not use waiting times. Will check if that fixes the problem.

 

Version 6 is uploaded.

Changes:

• RB 24 and RE 22 finished (with that all hours are finished)
  
• starts of Shunting (49564) should be fixed
• some pathing improvements
• improved service descriptions for IC 9999 and RE 9007

Known issues:

• Shunting (49564) Part 3 may get stuck in front of a red signal

I don't know why I got stuck. And the simulation apparently didn't. Maybe it has something to do with me continuously failing objectives by passing over them. That's another QoL improvement for the next version. A stop on a specified marker shouldn't fail if you overshoot.

 

You can disable objective failure in the stop instruction, there's a tick box for it.

 

I know. That is what I meant with "another QoL improvement for the next version".

I'm looking forward to see the ICs with cab car after the next simulation.

 

Update:
The expert 101+coaches produces plenty of problems and I can't get the timetable to work with them, unfortunately. There appears to be a bug somewhere with respect to the doors. So, for the time being, I will disable those services to be able to continue working on the timetable and add static stock.

 

Why is the timetable not displayed?

 

Just reporting since I think your intention was for it to use the KWG Dostos that the AI services I was seeing were using the Dresden branded ones.

 

That's intended. I switched them out for the DRA versions as those have modern PIS and the front lights actually display correctly on the cab. Plus, the KWG version has some funkiness during playing.

One of the problems of the gazillion DoSto variants: there is no one version that receives continuous updates but some have one set of bugs and others another.

If you've put the pak file to the correct location then it means your game somehow cannot load it. There were reports from others as well. As it works for me, it is quite hard for me to investigate why that might be. I sincerely hope that official cooking support from DTG will alleviate these problems.

Update on Expert 101:
I'm investigating currently what works and what doesn't with the expert loco.

Works:
AI only services that drive from portal to portal with one stop and don't change directions on map. I was successfully able to simulate that.

AI service arriving on-map, unlocking doors, player opening a door and taking over service (activating ZWS, ZS), player service closing doors, continuing to second stop, unlocking doors, AI service closing doors, entering portal (works in scenario where simulation is not required but cannot be simulated as it requires active player intervention (see below)

Investigating:
AI service arriving on-map, player service opening and closing doors, continuing to second stop, opening and closing doors, AI service entering portal

Does not work:
Switching from cab car to loco (or vice versa) on-map. This always triggers problems when trying to close doors after direction change.

AI service arriving on-map, unlocking doors, player service closing doors, continuing to second stop, unlocking doors, AI service closing doors, entering portal (same as above but without player intervention).

Conclusion:
This analysis shows to me: whenever the service switches from the first service to open doors to the next on-map, door operation ceases to function.

 

Version 7 is uploaded.

Changes:

• Eurostar replacement services with expert 101/cab car
• AI-only IC/EC services with cab car and expert 101
• fixes for RE 9006 part 2
• static stock added
• surprise in Köln Depot between August/September
• ICE 3 neo services implemented with ICE 3

Impression of Köln Hbf during the day:


How many trains do you count?

The Eurostar replacement services have been implemented using one formation for each service. I couldn't get it to work otherwise. Initially, I intended for some depot movements with the expert 101 and cab car but that didn't materialise as it didn't simulate. So now these trains always come from a portal and always leave through a portal.

There will be a version 8 for TSW 4 which will include improvements to pathing and fixes for some issues I noticed during play sessions.

 

Thanks for all the versions and updates. Thanks for not keeping us waiting. Thanks for your great work.

 

I have successfully tried to start up TSW 5 with the existing unmodified pak from TSW 4 and it all shows up. That means you can start playing it in TSW 5 immediately without having to wait for an newly cooked version.

It also means that I can finish all things not requiring TSW 5 content so that it works on both TSW 4 and 5.

Update: Apparently the editor was silently upgraded to the TSW 5 version. I'm currently uncertain if a new cooked file will still be compatible with TSW 4. Therefore, I've uploaded the last version I created before that update as version 8.

Changes:

• Talent 2 only has 3/6 car units now, fixing bogey issue
• timetable improvements
• pak file structure change (hopefully fixes issue with timetable not appearing for some users)

Update 2:
I have been able to include a newly cooked file in both TSW 4 and 5 and see the content in both games. This version 9 adds 4 playable services (so far) by parking the S11 services that end/start in Cologne in the depot. Will do some more checks on it.

 

I've just uploaded version 9.

Changes:

• substitution with BR 642 works (AI trains won't substitute)
• PIS for RB 20 out of Düren works (finally found the cause)
  
• one ECS from Cologne to Aachen added with 423 (you can use LZB for a longer stretch with this one)
• stops from RE 9 and RE 1 in Stolberg now use correct within setup

 

I've just uploaded version 10.

Changes:

• RE 9 with DoSto now use DoSto and 146 from Frankfurt-Fulda
• ICE T services added around Cologne and one pair around Aachen

Flixtrain is still planned but currently I am unable to get the timetable to simulate properly with it. You will see an FLX layer though in TSW 5 but that doesn't have any services in it currently.

 

I've been following your work for a while, also since I was working on my own version of a timetable for this route, dated in 2024. I've been busy with it for a couple of months, but due to a lack of time and problems with doors not opening sort of abandoned the project. I know from my own experience that building a timetable is a lot of work, so respect for your work!

I just drove the container freighttrain from Düren to Stolberg. And there are two things that I want to share with you:

1. Right from the beginning of the service, I had to wait for about 20 (!) minutes before I could depart from Düren. This was mainly because the RE9 to Aachen had already been given a green departure signal in Düren however it still was driving well before the station of Horrem. I know the LZB track plans ahead a long distance, but I think this has more to do with the tickbox "dispatch beyond stop" in the timetable. I personally would untick this tickbox for the stop in Düren.
2. The maximum speed is set to 160 km/h. See screenshot below. Not very realistic, because most freighttrains have a speedlimit of 100 km/h. The BR204 which I'm driving also has a limit of 100 km/h. You can set the maximum speed for a service in the timetable. This will also make sure the timetable simulates with the correct speedlimits of the train.

Looking forward to driving more trains with your timetable!

Edit: I drove some other freight services and I noticed that the stop positions are extremely precise. Sometimes I had to be spot on on 0 meters to get the task to be successful. I do like a challenge, but this became annoying to a point where I had to pull up my train multiple times. I personally set the slider in de timetable editor to the max:

 

Thanks for the info. I didn't set maximum service speeds on any service so that will be a complete overhaul on every (playable) service that has a lower max speed than the route allows (lots of clicking). Will have to observe the impact on the timetable simulation.

As there is only one freight train from Düren, it is easy to identify it. I likely overlooked it because it doesn't have a fixed time to be in Stolberg and hence the delay isn't printed as warning after simulation. Will take a look into it. A dependency of the RE on this freight train is likely all that is necessary to fix this issue.

Lastly, the tolerance is an important point. I had to select specific points to ensure they clear junctions and so on but will investigate how much I can add tolerance to it. 10 meters shouldn't be a major issue.

 

I've just uploaded version 11.

Changes:

• adjust speed limits to real values (freight trains have an upper limit of 120 kph now)
  
• adjust AI performance to be closer to speed limit
  
• adjust times for RE 1/9 to be closer to reality (possible thanks to increasing the AI performance to 97,5%)
  
• increase stopping tolerance for freight trains to 10m
• add info to service description if (long) waiting times are to be expected for freight trains

The adjusted AI performance means that AI-driven ICE trains will now drive 195 kph if the limit is 200kph. By default, the value is 0.9 which would result in a speed of 180 kph for a 200 kph speed limit.

 

I noticed some problems still and quickly made a version 12, which has just been uploaded.

Changes:

• all ICE stops in Aachen use correct Within now
• S-Bahn service to Aachen (32061) no longer has to wait a long time in Düren
• for 32061 and 32057 the arrival times in Buir have been fixed
• AI performance of playable S-Bahn services has been increased to the same level as previously mentioned

Would be interested to know, what your take on the timetable is, Joethefish.

 

In the last sale, I picked up Bremen-Oldenburg. Therefore, I replaced all BR 425 with the one from that addon, adding PIS. But sadly, I still can't manage to get the Flixtrain to work.

Version 13 has just been uploaded.

Changes:

• BR 425 is now the one from Bremen-Oldenburg

 

On TSW community, I don't see version 13 but still 12

Edit : It's good, it's there now

 

I had an issue too on my MSB timetable (with Flixtrain, but also with BR101 Expert and BR401): I couldn't get services with those trains routed as I had electrification issues on a small portion of track just outside Aschaffenburg Hbf.

I managed to get the flixtrain routed by copying the RVD file to my formations folder and removing the 'electrification requirements' from this copied RVD file. I then attached my modified RVD to the formation and I just had a functioning Flixtrain run on the MSB. I'm now going to simulate this, I'll let you know if it still malfunctions but the fact that the routing doesn't throw errors and the fact that I've done a succesful run in PIE makes me hopeful.

Edit: the simulation succeeded. If electrification is an issue then this fixes it.

 

Electrification is not the issue on this route, unfortunately. Do you have the flixtrain in a layer and if so what plugins have you specified as required?

 

Finally the next version (14) is uploaded.
Changes:

• Flixtrain is here
• Conductor mode is supported on RE 9 DoSto services
• BR 146 on RE 9 services can be substituted

Some background on the Flixtrain: I had to copy the entire timetable into a new TSW 5 editor asset for it to calculate correctly. But it was worth it. The total number of playable services is now 900.

And I'm quite happy that it still is faster to release than the long announced and awaited timetable of Joe.

 

The next version 15 is uploaded.
Changes:

• ÖBB 1116 can be used with substitution on freight/RE 9 services and the special IC service
• two NJ services with DB Vectron and ÖBB IC coaches added
• changed SBB EC services to also use ÖBB IC coaches (they are now a mix of DB and ÖBB coaches)
• one additional AI ICE 3 service in the morning that changes direction in Cologne Hbf

 

While showing KS1 the White light is not on, if it shows Ks2 it would be.

 

the white light would be on cause it is a "Vorsignalwiederholer" and not "Verkürzter Bremsweg"

 

No it would not because it shows Ks1. If it shows Ks2 it would show „Zusatzlicht“ for „Vorsignalwiederholer“. For „verkürzter Bremsweg“ it would be the same

 

I don't know if this discussion is so helpful right now. In any case: the main signal shows Ks2. In the front is an advance signal that shows Ks 1 because the following main signal doesn't show Hp 0.

The advance signal can show a white light on the top if is not a repeater and the distance is too short. It shows the white light on the bottom if it is a repeater and the main signal doesn't show pure Ks 1.

You can see the possible combinations here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ks-Signalsystem#Signalbilder

 

I have released version 16 of the timetable.

Changes:

• 6 new ICE 1 services between Cologne and Aachen (from 2024 timetable)
• fix of the 9003 freight service

 

I'm sorry, but I can't let this go so wrong, when a would-be railway worker knows everything better than someone who's learned it. It's called "Eisenbahner Tourette" xD

 

There is a problem with ICE 1053 service , arrived at Stloberg station, the signal after the station (S42) is red and I checked around me but there is no train in front of me

 

Just a wild guess: is your game language German? I added a localized version for German. While that shouldn't have any influence, it might explain why I have no problems with the English language version.

 

My game language is neither in German nor in English but in French

 

Apparently I broke version 16 with the localization changes. I removed those and cooked the timetable again. It has been uploaded as version 17. I set the game language to German/French but don't get the errors anymore.

 

I tried the same service again with version 17 but it didn't change anything, I'm still stuck at the signal

Edit : I tried with service 1501 but it's the same (even letting AI drive) and an ICE 1 service but from Köln to Aachen but I'm stuck at the signal after Duren station

Here are some screenshots if it can help :

(Me who is blocked in front of the S42 signal at Stolberg)


Same service but with AI blocked too (with current status: "Arret en attente de la dépendance ") :

 

Do you have Niddertalbahn?

 

I just tested it and it works for me on my end (all DLCs installed)

 

Yes
My German DLC list which are in layer in your timetable:
Aachen - Koln (logic) and 423 expansion
Niddertalbahn
Kassel-Würzburg
Dresden Riesa
Frankfurt - Fulda + Flixtrain
Linke Rheinstrecke
Bremen-Oldenburg
Original BR 101

 

Hey,
Thank you for the effort you put into this timetable!
Unfortunately I also have the problem that a lot of AI trains (mostly freight I believe) are getting stuck waiting "on a depedency" (I am using the English version). I am now removing those manually if I get stuck but it would be great if this issue could be solved. I have the same DLCs as ElBriseto, except that I do not own Niddertalbahn and I do have München - Augsburg.

 

Thanks for your input. It's very hard for me to fix these issues if they don't appear on my end. I will double check the cooking process. Maybe something gets mixed up there. Hard to know. It's really frustrating that something simulates fine and works on my end, only to fail on other installations.

 

Are the layers for RB20 active in your installation?

 

No, but I can't activate this for some unknown reason even though I have Niddertalbahn, I can see 628 at Köln or Horrem for example
The 628:
Layers not available :

Otherwise I was wondering if it's not the Maintalbahn DLC (I don't have) that is causing the problem because in the description of your mod it is written that it is this one that manages the RB20 since version 14

 

You got something there. That's partially right: some RB 20 services are 628 by default and some 642. That's why both are required for the layer. If you don't have it then the layer won't be available. Will clarify that in the description.

Will also test the timetable with deactivating some layers to see if the problem occurs then on my end.

Update:
I've got good and bad news. The good news: I can reproduce the problem by deactivating the RB 20 West layer. The bad news: The cause is a dependency between layers. And apparently this dependency is still enforced, even if the layer that is depended upon is not available.

These dependencies are necessary to ensure smooth riding with the ICE and other services and not having to come up on artificial red signals for no reason. What this also means: if crucial layers are missing, then services will be broken due to unfulfilled dependencies.

I will look up what layers are the origin of those dependencies. Those layers are apparently a MUST for the timetable to work.

 

I hadn't seen your edit regarding depedencies
Have you found other layers other than Niddertalbahn+Maintalbahn who must be present for the timetable to work?

 

Thanks for the question. Unfortunately, I haven't had time to look into it further. It is, however, still on the list as is the addition of ICE 2 services to the timetable.

Now that we finally know the DTG provided new timetable, I am proud to say that mine features more playable services (about 200 more) even though the RE 8 and RB 27 are AI only in my timetable and has some things the DTG one does not have (interconnected BR 218+nwagen+BR 204 shunting/freight/passenger services; expert 101 runs; ICE T ECS movement; RE 9 services with rudimentary guard mode).

DTG timetable features the S6 which is missing in mine as the line wasn't running on the modelled day, includes AI-only TGV trains (I replaced the Eurostar services with expert 101 playable services), RE 8 and RB 27 are playable between Ehrenfeld and Köln Hbf. The rest of the differences relate to rolling stock choice and likely freight services.

 

I have now been able to go through all layers. In the following list you can find which layers are necessary for each layer to prevent any issues. In some cases only one service would be negatively impacted so you might get away in some cases with not activating a required layer. Unlisted layers have no dependencies to other layers.

Of the layers with notable playable content, the RRX layers are not listed. This means that all RE1 services will run without trouble so long as the layer itself is activated. The S-Bahn layers also have no dependencies to other layers.

Some layers have the same DLC requirements: RB20_West, RB20_East, RB38 are covered if you have Maintalbahn and Niddertalbahn. Similarly, Bremen-Oldenburg gives you these layers: RE8, RB26, RB27, RE18. Frankfurt-Fulda provides ICET and DoSto_RE9. Dresden-Riesa provides 442_RE9, RE7_RB48, RRX_with_stops. Kassel-Würzburg gives ICE1, ICE3. The freight layers mentioned here require Dresden-Riesa, Vorarlberg, Kassel-Würzburg and the Railpool Vectron.

The vast majority of services should work, therefore, with these DLC installed: Maintalbahn, Niddertalbahn, Bremen-Oldenburg, Frankfurt-Fulda (TSW 5 DE route), Dresden-Riesa (TSW 4 remaster, TSW 2 Rush Hour original), Kassel-Würzburg (TSW 3 DE route), Vorarlberg (TSW 4 DE/AT route), Railpool Vectron.

To solve all dependency problems, these DLC will be necessary on top: Linke Rheinstrecke, Expert 101, BR 218, BR 204.

103_IC

• DoSto_RE9
• RE 8
• 218_204_nWagen_Sggmrss

185_Zacns

• DoSto_RE9
• 442_RE9
• RRX_with_stops
• RB20_West
• Expert_101_IC
• RE18
• 103_IC
• ICE3M
• RB20_East

218_204_nWagen_Sggmrss

• RB38
• S12_S19_2
• RRX_with_stops
• RB20_East
• 442_RE9

442_RE9

• Expert_101_IC
• 218_204_nWagen_Sggmrss
• RB20_East

Cl66_Zacns

• RB20_East

DoSto_RE9

• Expert_101_IC

Expert_101_IC

• Vectron_185_Laaers_Sggmrss_Kijls_Habiins_Eanos
• 442_RE9
• RB20_West
• DoSto_RE9

FLX

• RE8
• RB26
• ICET

ICE1

• RB20_West
• RB20_East
• RB38
• ICE3M
• RB27

ICE3

• RE7_RB48
• RE8
• 442_RE9

ICE3M

• 103_IC
• 442_RE9

RB27

• RE8

RB38

• RE7_RB48
• ICE3

S11_ECS

• S12_S19_2

Vectron_185_Laaers_Sggmrss_Kijls_Habiins_Eanos

• RE18
• RB20_East
• RB38
• 442_RE9
• DoSto_RE9
• ICE1
• RRX_with_stops
• 185_Zacns
• ICE3M
• RB20_West