Cologne-frankfurt High Speed Line

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  1. Swedewagon

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    Once again, hello fellow Train Enthusiasts. Today we have another suggestion of mine, mainly being the Cologne/Köln-Frankfurt High Speed Line. There is not quite a lot of stations for the high speed trains, and it's high speed only on the later half towards Frankfurt, so expect to only see ICEs on those parts of the route. Without a furtherado, let's begin!

    Cologne/Köln Hbf
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    We start off at Köln Hauptbahnhof, one of the biggest stations on the route. The station is an important local, national and international transport hub, with many ICE, Thalys and Intercity trains calling there, as well as regional Regional-Express, RegionalBahn and local S-Bahn trains. EuroNight and DB NachtZug night services also call at the station. It has frequent connections to Frankfurt by way of the Cologne–Frankfurt high-speed rail line, which starts in southern Cologne. On an average day, about 280,000 travellers frequent the station, making it the fifth busiest station in Germany.

    The station is a
    hub of many Intercity Express and Intercity lines, mostly serving Cologne every hour or every two hours. Various high-speed services connect most cities in Germany as well as several neighbouring countries in a few hours. Thalys high-speed trains run from Cologne to Paris via Aachen, Liege and Brussels. An international Intercity Express service also operates every two hours during the day on the Brussels–Liege—Aachen–Cologne line, continuing towards Frankfurt. The station is also a hub for numerous Regional-Express and Regionalbahn services, mostly serving the station in Cologne every half-hour or hour, but sometime only every two hours.

    Köln Messe/Deutz
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    Our first intermediate stop is Köln Messe/Deutz. It is an important railway junction for long-distance rail and local services in the Cologne district of Deutz in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia. It is situated close to the eastern bank of the Rhine and connected via the Hohenzollern Bridge to Köln Hauptbahnhof, which is just a few hundred metres away. The Cologne Trade Fair grounds are directly north of the station, hence the Messe in the station's name. The Stadtbahn station of Deutz/Messe is nearby and connected by a pedestrian tunnel.

    The station is a junction station, which has platforms on two levels: the high-level platforms are used by trains running in the east-west direction across the Hohenzollern Bridge to and from Köln Hauptbahnhof. The lower level (Köln Messe/Deutz tief) is used by trains running in a north-south direction bypassing the Hauptbahnhof from Köln-Mülheim station towards Troisdorf. It serves an important function in providing some relief for the Köln Hauptbahnhof bottleneck—some ICE services call at Köln-Deutz instead of Köln Hbf, eliminating the need for changing direction, while many regional trains from the west terminate here to prevent them blocking Köln Hbf
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    The station is served by a International ÖBB NightJet Service that runs from Innsbruck to Dusseldorf, several ICE Services that head from Köln Hbf or Köln/Bonn Airport towards destinations such as Berlin, Munich and Stuttgart. Intercity and Regional services stop at the station as well. Local services also serve the station, mainly the Oberbergische Bahn, MittelrheinBahn, Rhein-Erft-Bahn, Erft-Bahn, and Rhein-Wupper-Bahn. With the Rhein-Ruhr S-Bahn Lines 6, 11 and Köln S-Bahn Lines 13 and 19 calling there as well.

    Köln-Trimbornstraße
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    Before diverging into the main line once again, we'll take a look at the Köln/Bonn Airport loop's stations as well. Starting off with Köln-Trimbornstraße. It is situated at Kalk, Cologne in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia on the Sieg and East Rhine Railways. It was opened on 2 June 1991 on a railway that was originally built as part of the Deutz–Gießen railway on 1 January 1859.

    The station is served by the S12 and S13 lines of the Rhine-Ruhr S-Bahn. Both lines operate towards Cologne at 20-minute intervals, so together they provide a 10-minute interval S-Bahn service to Cologne. It is also served by the S19 service between Düren and Au (Sieg), running hourly (substituting for an S13 service). It is classified by Deutsche Bahn as a category 5 station.

    Köln
    -Frankfurter Straße
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    Our next stop is Köln-Frankfurter Straße. It is a station situated at Gremberghoven, Cologne in western Germany on the Cologne Airport Loop and the Cologne–Overath railway. It was opened with the Cologne Airport loop on 13 June 2004. It is served by the S13 and the S19 services of the Rhine-Ruhr S-Bahn together run at 20-minute intervals on weekdays and every 30 minutes on the weekend. It is classified by Deutsche Bahn as a category 4 station.

    Köln/Bonn Airport
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    Our main stop of this loop is the Cologne/Bonn Airport station. It is a station at Cologne Bonn Airport in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia. It was built as part of the Cologne–Frankfurt high-speed rail line and opened in June 2004 on an approximately 15 kilometre-long airport loop. It is served by Intercity-Express (ICE), Rhine-Ruhr S-Bahn and regional services. The Cologne Bonn airport was the third German airport to have a connection to the ICE network after Frankfurt Airport and Düsseldorf Airport. The construction of the airport loop was, for the most part, financed by funds under the Berlin–Bonn Act, especially to improve connections from the Bonn/Rhine-Sieg region to the airport. Currently only Cologne and—Troisdorf in the Rhein-Sieg district—have direct connections to the airport via lines S13 and S19 of the S-Bahn, providing a service every 20 minutes on week days. 6 pairs of ICE also serve this station every day.

    Porz-Wahn
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    The last stop on the Airport Loop before diverging onto the Main Line again, is Porz-Wahn. It is a railway station situated at Porz, Cologne in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia on the Sieg and East Rhine Railways. It is served by the S12 and S13 lines of the Rhine-Ruhr S-Bahn. Both lines operate towards Cologne at 20-minute intervals, so together they provide a 10-minute interval S-Bahn service to Cologne. It is also served by the S19 service between Düren and Au (Sieg), running hourly and substituting for one of the S13 services. It is classified by Deutsche Bahn as a category 4 station.

    Spich
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    The first station on the S-Bahn network after leaving the loop is Spich. It is a railway junction in the district of Spich of the town of Troisdorf in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia, on the Sieg Railway. It is served by the S12 and S13. Both lines operate at 20-minute intervals, so together they provide a 10-minute interval S-Bahn service to Cologne. It is also served by the S19 service between Düren and Au (Sieg), running hourly and substituting for one of the S13 services. It is classified by Deutsche Bahn as a category 4 station.

    Troisdorf
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    The next station is Troisdorf. Troisdorf is a railway junction in the town of Troisdorf in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia, where the line from Cologne separates into the East Rhine Railway to Neuwied and the Sieg Railway to Siegen. In addition to various regional rail services Troisdorf is served by the S12 and S13. Both lines operate towards Cologne at 20-minute intervals, so together they provide a 10-minute-interval S-Bahn service to Cologne. It is also served on working days by the S 19 service between Düren and Au (Sieg), running hourly and substituting for one of the S13 services. It is classified by Deutsche Bahn as a category 3 station.

    The high-speed line also passes through Troisdorf, but without stopping. In the course of the construction of high-speed line, the three platforms were rebuilt and raised. Renovation or replacement of the station building is being planned.

    Siegburg/Bonn
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    Continuing further up the line, we arrive at Siegburg/Bonn. The station is located in the town of Siegburg in the German state of North Rhine-Westphalia on the Cologne–Frankfurt high-speed rail line and the Sieg Railway. Its name is attributed to the fact that the station was rebuilt for the high-speed line in order to serve Bonn. It is connected to Bonn by the Siegburg line of the Bonn Stadtbahn every 10 or 15 minutes. ICE Services 42, 43, 45 and 49 as well as ICE International service 79 stop at Siegburg/Bonn, whilst the rest of the service pass through the station. The Ruhr-Sieg Express and S12 and S19 of the Rhein-Ruhr S-Bahn stop here as well.

    Montabaur
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    Continuing further along is a station at the 89.1 kilometre point of the Cologne-Frankfurt high-speed railway and on the Limburg–Siershahn railway (Lower Westerwald Railway) in the German state of Rhineland-Palatinate. Known as Montabaur station. The station, which is served by regional and long-distance passenger services and freight traffic, is on the outskirts of the town of Montabaur. It is aligned parallel with Autobahn 3 (A3), which runs immediately to the north. ICE Services 41, 45 and 49, as well as the DreiLänderBahn trains running from Limburg (Lahn) to Siershahn stop here.

    Limburg Süd
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    And even further up ahead is Limburg Süd. The station in the town of Limburg an der Lahn, in the German state of Hesse. It is located in the Eschhöfer Feld in the district of Eschhofen at the 110.5 kilometre point of the Cologne–Frankfurt high-speed railway. Limburg Süd is the one of the two station in Germany that is served solely by Intercity-Express (ICE) services.

    The majority of trains travelling between Frankfurt (Main) Airport Long-Distance Station and Köln Messe/Deutz Station run past Limburg Süd and Montabaur stations without stopping. The trains that pass through Cologne Central Station stop in both Limburg Süd and Montabaur stations before reaching Frankfurt (Main) Airport Long-Distance Station and vice versa.

    Most parts of Cologne–Frankfurt high-speed rail line have steeper ascending and descending grades of 4%. This unique feature requires the higher power-to-weight ratio: ICE 3 with its power linear eddy current brakes is only train type licensed to operate on this railway: no other service, namely slower regional trains, is permitted. This makes Limburg Süd station one of the two stations in Germany to be served by high speed train services, the other being Frankfurt am Main Airport long-distance station.

    Frankfurt am Main Airport
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    Our last intermediate stop of the line is Frankfurt am Main's airport. Specifically the long-distance station. The railway station at Frankfurt Airport in Frankfurt, Germany is served by long-distance trains, mostly ICE services running on the Cologne–Frankfurt high-speed rail line. It is the largest railway station serving an airport in Germany with about 23,000 passengers each day. The station is served by 210 long-distance trains daily, of which 185 are Intercity-Expresses. It and Limburg Süd Station are the only railway stations in Germany that are served exclusively by long-distance trains.

    The station was opened in 1999 as part of the first part of the Cologne–Frankfurt high-speed line; the great majority of the high-speed line opened in 2002. It is 660 m long and 45 m high. It features a large dome containing a lounge area and a ticket hall, and is connected to the airport by a skyway that crosses the Autobahn 3. The Squaire, a one-billion-euro complex containing office space, hotels, convention centres and other facilities, has been built above the station. Nearby is Frankfurt Airport regional station which is located beneath Terminal 1 of the airport and which provides local S-Bahn services to Frankfurt, Wiesbaden and Mainz.

    Frankfurt Hbf
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    The last station on the line is Frankfurt am Main Hauptbahnhof. It is the busiest railway station in Frankfurt, Germany. Because of its location in the middle of Germany and usage as a transport hub for long and short distance travelling, Deutsche Bahn refers to it as the most important station in Germany. As for long-distance traffic, the station profits greatly from its location in the heart of Europe; 13 of the 24 ICE lines call at the station, as well as 2 of the 3 ICE Sprinter lines. To ease the strain on the Hauptbahnhof, some ICE lines now call at Frankfurt Airport station and at Frankfurt (Main) Süd instead of Hauptbahnhof. There are also long-distance night trains from Frankfurt, e.g. to Copenhagen, Berlin, Prague, Amsterdam, Zurich, Paris and Rom.

    With regard to regional traffic, Frankfurt Hbf is the main hub in the RMV network, offering connections to Koblenz, Limburg, Kassel, Nidda, Stockheim, Siegen, Fulda, Gießen, Aschaffenburg, Würzburg, Mannheim, Heidelberg, Dieburg, Eberbach, Worms and Saarbrücken with fifteen regional lines calling at the main station.

    Conclusion
    That was quite the handful of stations, but we finally made it to the end of this post. I may make a seperate route for the Frankfurt Airport Loop. But until next time, see ya!
     
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  2. kennyjamesscott

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    Thumbs up
     
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  3. breblimator

    breblimator Well-Known Member

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    + with SKA merge :D
     
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  4. Swedewagon

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    Indeed. So you can run almost the entirety of the route of ICE International 79. The only bit missing would be Aachen to Brussels
     
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  5. kennyjamesscott

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    Doesn't have to be but yes please, that would be more than great. Great, great
     
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    Awesome post.
     
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  7. Swedewagon

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    It would be great to have the route merge. I also made a HSL 2 and 3 post from Aachen to Brussels, meaning you could run Brussels-Frankfurt if those two routes were to become reality and be merged with Köln-Aachen
     
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  8. kennyjamesscott

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    That's dreaming territory. Oh dear, as stated on the stream, it seems that merges are years away yet.
     
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  9. breblimator

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    Hehe, yeah :)
     
  10. nsbtog18

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    I will love to see this route
     
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  11. 2martens

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    Would be cool and finally a route with a real distance for ICEs to perform.
     
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  12. Lightspeed

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    Yes! More LZB fun!
     
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    UP!
     
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  14. johnjohn190690

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    Yes this would be a fantastic route and enjoyed reading up about the route. Had planned to travel from UK to Frankfurt via train before this pandemic came along and also requiring to get time off work also so hopefully next year I'll do this route. To see it in TSW2 would be amazing and if we are years away from merges then we can wait and if research was done locally with Aachen-Köln route then why can't Köln-Frankfurt HS line be done the same way. Always hope this route would come into TSW2.
     
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  15. Ischollum

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    It would be boring simple fast speed train, that's my opinion.
    But we can merge the Track to Hennef.
    Convert from TS21 is possible Cologne - Troisdorf already exits.

    So how do you like.
    Cologne Hbf - Airport - Troisdorf - Siegburg - Hennef.
    Cologne Hbf - Porz (Rhein) - Wahn - Troisdorf.

    We have the hole S-Bahn from Düren to Troisdorf/Hennef
    Regionalexpress 8 Ehrenfeld - Troisdorf
    Regionalbahn 27 Ehrenfeld - Troisdorf
    Regionalexpress 9 Aachen - Hennef
    Freightservice
    Speed Train Aachen - Siegburg

    Maybe a extension to Düsseldorf .
    Oh yeah that would be nice from Aachen to two directions .
     
  16. Jalio

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    I like the sound of this! High speed at the moment is fun but the time passes very quickly as they’re both short.
     
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  17. Swedewagon

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    That's the plan. Merge with SKA Köln-Aachen so you can run High Speed, Regional and Commuter accross the merged route. But from Troisdorf onwards it would be only High Speed until reaching the Frankfurt Airport Loop.
     
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    Actually after Siegburg/Bonn.
     
  19. kosti.nuuja

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    I think that we can see this route in TSW2 in future. This route is realistic to develop, because there is not very much stations on the line, and all rolling stock what this route would include is already made for TSW2. Siegburg/Bonn, Montabaur and Limburg-Süd are only stations that DTG has never modelled earlier. All other already exists in TS20xx, so modelling them to TSW2 would be faster, because they should know what these stations looks. They can use textures, that are already used on TS20xx.
     
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  20. drnicktgm#1259

    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    I would really love to I see that route and for me it would be more fun than Marseille Avignon. I live in Kalk and always exit or enter a train in Trimbornstr.
     
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    Only thing is if there is LZB you don't have to do anything, but it would be good to enjoy the scenery
     
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    drnicktgm#1259 Well-Known Member

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    The only way to make it interesting would be if you could do more with passengers for example intatact with them, in Bus Simulator 2018 you can check their tickets, so why shouldn't it be a thing in TSW2?
     
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    I hope that this route will be in the next roadmap
     
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  24. solicitr

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    A great post, but oddly you left out a salient fact: the HS stretch of Koln-Frankfurt is the fastest grade of track in Germany; the ICEs can run up to 300 km/h.
     
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  25. drnicktgm#1259

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    I know how this route can be much more interesting, for example DTG could add failures to the route or the train, that can rarely or somethings happen, or also delays by the AI Trains, or that the weather would make problems, that the ice can't run fast enough, or that there is a traffic jam on the S Bahn Line or a Jam before Cologne or Frankfurt
     
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  26. Huntlosen

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    Currently, the two most popular German proposals are Cologne-Frankfurt and Frankfurt-Mannheim. These two addons together would really recreate the ICE 3 magistrale of Germany. Cologne-Frankfurt Airport- Mannheim - (Basel SBB). And of course in connection with SKA Brussels - Frankfurt Central
     
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    Yeah and that would be very nice if DTG would do it, but I think that it will take some years to develop, because they have still to develop other routes like UK, America and co. But if third-party vendors help them out like TS, they'd be done much faster.
     
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  28. formulabee#1362

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    I find it boring driving an ice between the same, two stops, which is why we need cologne to frankfurt
     
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    If DTG can add the Cologne-Frankfurt route in the next development plan, then they will create the current TSW route record. This will be an exciting moment.
     
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    And we could get 2 new trains, die example the BR 407 and the cologne s Bahn br423 with the right sound
     
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    This would be the best route for TSW I could imagine. It has the beautiful landscape of Germany, sophisticated signalling systems, high speed areas (300km/h) with steep slopes, multiple stops and overall it is just the most important ICE route in Germany. So this route would be a fantastic addition. By the way: Very good presentation of the route, Swedewagon x3 I like it very much!
     
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  32. tallboy7648

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    This route can also act as a extension for SKA from Koln HBF to Frankfurt HBF. Everyone owns ska and this would be a standalone route as well so it would be a no brainer to do in my opinion for people who want to see route extensions. Plus it would be cool to get another German High Speed route
     
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    Unless there is an extension to ecw or an Anglian route is featured, then yes
     
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    Would perfectly join up with koln to Aachen
     
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    Now it's up to dtg to make the route if they want too
     
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  36. elaineedwards2013

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    That looks cool
     
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  37. calusah

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    Well done, mate! I hope they'll build this route one day..:love:
     
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  38. drnicktgm#1259

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    Yeah I hope that too
     
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  39. elaineedwards2013

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    Excellent idea. 100%.
     
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    Also at Mannheim actually have the branch Mannheim Saarbrücken LGV Est Paris. That one requires you to switch 15kv 16.7hz overhead wires Germany to France 25kv 50hz at the French German Border also Switching LZB/PZB to KVB TVM-430. There is only one route in train simulator world 2 where you switch to KVB & TVM-430 signaling from TPWS AWS Southeast high speed
     
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    And since dtg are now open to do extensions/mergers, this probably could happen. The ICE services on ska are simply too short for the speeds. I suggested a merger/extension of the core routes for tsw2 as a start on a different thread but apparently one person disagreed with me on the matter
     
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    Mergers and extensions are not the same thing.
     
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    Hey, I linked your suggestion in my map of the Ruhr and Surrounding Area Rail Network Map, hope you don't mind. It's a map that visualizes the "missing links" in the current Ruhr Rail Network. Do you mind if I make my own suggestion on this route in the future, as you haven't listed which locos should come with the route?
     
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  45. tallboy7648

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    A route extension would have to be a standalone route which could be merged to the route that would/could get the extension so technically they are the same thing
     
  46. jolojonasgames

    jolojonasgames Well-Known Member

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    Usually extension is used when referring to shorter, not standalone, branch lines which could be added to existing route as a DLC to that route. You're not wrong, but I just wanted to explain the confusion. Usually when referring to standalone routes that could be merged with existing routes, people just refer to them as standalone routes that could be merged with existing routes.
     
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    That is true like extensions for gwe to get the branch lines. :) It's good that dtg are now planning on doing these things because the amount of requests for extensions or mergers simply couldn't be ignored especially if there is a market for that. The requests were moderate according to them but I think that probably went a bit higher to the point it couldn't just be ignored hence the about face
     
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    Is DTG really planning to make route extensions?
     
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    I would love to see this whenever TSW is able to make 100 mile routes. I think a super long high speed route would be very cool.
     
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    Excellent idea and speaking of Frankfurt airport it gets Railjet Trains to Vienna via Mannheim-Stuttgart Munich in addition to the ICE-T tliting Train towards Vienna from Frankfurt. This High-speed train line can form a corridor towards Würzburg if you can combine this one with Frankfurt-Aschaffenburg Gemünden Würzburg basically ICE Line 41 service. This includes the Main Spessart Bahn Aschaffenburg-Gemünden DLC. One benefit of using ICE3 on Main Spessart Bahn is that on maximum throttle you don't rollback towards the station if you are stopped on an incline. Happened to me twice in that scenario using DB BR 146.2 the German version of NJ Transit ALP-46 & ALP-46A.
     
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