Loco Db Br 218 Diesel Loco Feedback Thread

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  1. Isaak

    Isaak Well-Known Member

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    Hi Maik Goltz , since the update I am having issues with the FTF BR 146 not being able to open the FTF Doppelstock doors at Heigenbrücken on my MSB timetable. It seems that the "both" selector doesn't select any side, so the doors remain closed. Left/right does work. This behaviour is observed both while simulating the timetable and with PIE. Are you able to look into this? I haven't checked other versions of the 146/Doppelstock wagons yet.
     
  2. Maik Goltz

    Maik Goltz Well-Known Member

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    Code wise it looks fine to me. But there was DTG staff doing changes to the door logic after my changes. So, no idea what happened there now. To me it looks fine. Should work, but we know, it never works when it obviously should work. I tested all the possible door sides opening when i was doing the changes. But i didn't tested on the MSB route for sure (i can't test any route with 20 different DLCs).
     
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  3. Isaak

    Isaak Well-Known Member

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    I understand. I have solved it for now by selecting right/left door side instead of 'auto'. Only downside is a ton of 'info' messages when compiling the timetable.
     
  4. vendys#6021

    vendys#6021 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe a stupid question, why doesn't the 218 have a desk light in the cabin?
     
  5. vendys#6021

    vendys#6021 Well-Known Member

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    PS5

    I've mentioned it somewhere before, it didn't get a response, but the upper polygons of the bogie, which are practically white in daylight, really don't look realistic, it's rather dark under the locomotive, and similarly to other models, it would be more appropriate here if they were rather dark ....

    If there was any chance that TSG could "update" it over time, that would be great

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  6. Subway#2400

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    Yeah it is a bit too clean/shiny !
     
  7. 21c164fightercommand

    21c164fightercommand Well-Known Member

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    This is common with train simulations, the trucks are separate from the locomotive body.
    There is no 'shadow' or light occlusion volume covering the locomotive, so the trucks are illuminated.
    There might be some shadow casting so the sun doesn't shine under the locomotive, but in reality, you couldn't look under a locomotive body like that without a torch.
     
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  8. vendys#6021

    vendys#6021 Well-Known Member

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    If it were that common, all models would have it, it also depends on the material settings and choosing the right texture. So the solution definitely has the effect of being better.
     
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  9. pveezy

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    Still an issue.

    For anyone wondering, if too want to do this service just spawn on foot earlier (7:55 or 8) and take over the train instead of spawning into the service. The ICE won’t get stuck.
     
  10. solicitr

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    Lost power, can't restore!

    From the cab car- applied some e-brake on a downgrade, then when I took it off again had no throttle. Yes, I took it down to 0 first; still nada. What's going on? It's like a MCB-open fault, except of course there's no MCB on this train

    Also: HTF does one recover from a penalty brake?
     
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  11. AmityBlight

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    Perhaps you did overspeed? The 218 has a built-in overspeed protection, to prevent damage to the drive system. It hits when you go over 150 km/h in high gear, or 110 km/h in low gear. In that case, put her in idle, brake to standstill, then try again :)

    Basically like on any other loco... wait until you stop, hit the "PZB frei" and release the brakes.
     
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  12. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Found my mistake, by studying the alert lights on the dash. Turned out I had turned the e-brake down to 0 but not to Off (why can't the Germans realize 0=Off?) and so the throttle interlock was still applied.

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    Over 150? In an n-Wagen cab car?
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    Penalty brake: the brakes never recharge, I'm stuck with a vented pipe.
     
  13. AmityBlight

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    Technically it's an h-brake, not an e-brake, since it uses the 218's hydraulic transmission :cool:

    Because 0 isn't off in this case. "Off" means the hydraulic transmission is in drive mode, while "0" means the transmission is in brake mode, prepped and ready, but not applied yet.

    Sure, the n-Wagen have been designed for 140 km/h top speed. And while the 218 itself is capable of going to higher speeds (just spawn a single 218 on any straight and flat route and watch how fast she'll go up to 140 and beyond), the transmission system has been engineered for speeds up to 140 km/h. There's a little bit of tolerance, but speeds exceeding 150 km/h will damage it. Hence the protection system.

    It's also healthier for the n-Wagen, and its passengers. Going 140 in an n-Wagen is enough of a near-death experience already :o

    This is weird. I just did some testing and couldn't reproduce this. Does it happen on the 218 or on the n-Wagen cab car?
     
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  14. solicitr

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    The cab car
     
  15. AmityBlight

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    OK, just did some testing on the cab car, and it works fine for me. Zwangsbremsung happens, I set the engine to idle, train stops. I hit the "PZB frei" switch, HLL pressure goes back up to normal, journey can continue.
    Tried it in different situations, always worked fine.

    I surmise that one odd switch is in the wrong position... let's troubleshoot this :)
    Is the direct brake completely open?
    Are the brake handles on the 218 all set to off when using the cab car?
    Is the multi unit control switch on the 218 set to KWS?
    Is the KWS switch on the cab car dashboard set to "on"? This one's easy to overlook because it's obscured by the wheel in the ususal sitting position.


    By the way, I found an odd sound bug while testing. Albeit a very minor one :D
    The n-Wagen cab car's seat has a built in SIFA switch. Meaning if you stand up while driving, you'll immediately get a SIFA brake. When you just leave the cab then, and go back towards the passenger area, the alarm will fade the further you get away from the cab. So far, so good.
    But as soon as you exit the train, the alarm is back in full force, no matter where you are and where you go. It's also audible at the crossover between two railcars, since that seems to count as "outdoors" for the game. This only happens with the diesel version of the cab car, the electric one is fine.
     
  16. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Learned that the hard way. The solution is to put the reverser in Neutral before getting up
     
  17. AmityBlight

    AmityBlight Well-Known Member

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    Well, one shouldn't get up and move around the cab while driving in the first place ;)
     
  18. WeightOnWheels

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    Überdrehzahlschutz shouldn't apply when the H-Brake is active (which is a retarder, not a transmission ;) ).
     
  19. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    That was in a station- I jumped out to grab a collectible while passengers were boarding
     
  20. AmityBlight

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    Ah ok, didn't know that! Makes sense though :)

    While standing still, leaving the seat is no problem. The driver has to get up to look out of the windows, after all :)
     

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