Db Br 232 (ludmilla) Confirmed (in Prod.) + New G6 Teaser

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  1. LodeStar

    LodeStar Well-Known Member

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    Woah!! Happy to see that it is still in progress!!!
     
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    Thank you Maik for your great work always. Wished we had a Maik Goltz in America for making impressive American Freight stuff.
     
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    Appreciate the reply and the eye candy, looks great, my apologies if reviving this old thread pulled you from other tasks.
    Are those coil springs actually modeled to appear as real coil springs? it sure looks like it, as they were done on the current GWE/GWR Class 43.
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    It would be great even if was just a remaster of the current NA/CA freight, even the heritage units could use a bit of TLC, if and ever there were to be new NA/CA freight and passenger trains like the Brightline in FL and they are going to CA -> NV well that is the plan.
     
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    Holy
     
  5. Jpantera

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    Pics are not showing now?
     
  6. Maik Goltz

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    Images were direct Discord links and seems they have expired quite fast.
    Here again, as attachments to persist.
    232-1.jpg 232-2.jpg
     
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    thanks for posting them again :)
     
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  8. fabienlimp95

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    Ohhh yes! :D
     
  9. Jpantera

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    take my money now etc
     
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  10. pasquiles

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    Like the DB BR 218, Ludmilla will be day one purchase. Looking forward to it, specially as it is coming from TSG.
     
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  11. Kamaratko

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    Great news. Any ideas which route will be home route for Baureihe 232?
     
  12. Jpantera

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    Rhur Sieg Nord was mentioned a while back, will drive this anywhere though, nice free roam on Kassel Wurzburg!
     
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  14. Disintegration7

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    Ok, so if RSN isn't getting a TOD update, then i'm waiting for a big sale despite how good i know the loco will be. I got burned with the 218- i got bored of doing the same few services on Maintalbahn and there's like 1 on Dresden i think. Free roam just isn't a substitute for a proper timetable.

    I don't see why we keep getting new locos released for ancient routes with no accompanying update to the route. All it does it paint the new content in the worst possible light- i just don't understand the strategy. I'm not hating on TSG, they're fantastic- or RSN for that matter but the fact is the non-upgraded routes look dreadful running in TSW5- DTG did it right with the 390 on Cathcart, so i just don't get the inconsistency as a customer.
     
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  15. Matin_TSP

    Matin_TSP Well-Known Member

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    Nodody said that the 232 will still come for RSN. Back then when it was mentioned on the roadmap for the first time, it was the most fitting route. Since then the catalogue of routes has been growing a lot. So we have no idea about the actual route.
     
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  16. Disintegration7

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    Fair enough. Hopefully we'll get some clarification sometime soon lol
     
  17. Maik Goltz

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    Not "soon" as i still not have decided which route it will be. Definitely not RSN anymore.
     
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  18. pasquiles

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    Updated routes are better, but I play old routes too. For the DB BR 218 I play far more in HBL than in Maintalbahn, actually HBL is the route with more Kms now (thanks to The diesel locomotive).
    But my point is that while I would kind of agree that new routes are in principle better, this is not a rule set in stone.
     
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  19. Disintegration7

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    I hear you i just hate the old lighting with a passion lol. I can't go back to it lol.
     
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    When is Bremen-Oldenburg set? 2009? I think that might be the most realistic candidate to be honest... allthough without Bremen freight yard it does not make much sense. In reality you would see BR 232 hauling tank wagons from a natural gas processing plant close to Oldenburg during that timeframe.

    The only remaining "hub" for 232 in this current day is Nürnberg freight yard, from where Ludmilla starts it trips along the Pegnitztalbahn.

    I would say the coolest thing for Ludmilla would be "Angertalbahn" in Ruhrgebiet. A unelectrified freight line going through the middle of nowhere in NRW. Or the Military services in the Oberpfalz... but I guess those typ of things would not appeal to most players. I think it will be hard finding a home for Ludmilla without building a route for it.
     
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  22. Pipe

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    Oh Gaaawd, I want this sooooooo much!

    Looks beautiful. :love:
     
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  23. martschuffing

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    Yeah the Sudbahn from Ulm to Friedrichshafen would be superb for the Ludi.

    Shake rattle and roll baby!
     
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  24. Omnicitywife

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    I love it.
    And the old routes doesn't cripple my PC.
     
  25. Sparmi

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    ...couldn't resist being a little creative in this dull, grey November weather. If there are any references to the real world, then that was probably unintentional or not. ;)

    [REMOVED - Jan - Political, Controversial]

    Jokes aside: I think this locomotive is, alongside the 218, the most popular among German diesel locomotives. And with its 120t weight and powerful (original) sound, it's also a real hit acoustically. The problem with electric locomotives is that you don't get much noise, whereas diesel locomotives really roar. That's why it's also important to know that an old ventilated 232 version was recreated by TSG and that there is no additional sound insulation through built-in Siemens fans.
     
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  26. Disintegration7

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    Why do people need to bring [EDIT - Jan - Language] into everything???!? I've just spent the last 6 months in the US being bombarded by politics and actively trying to avoid this LOVE since the election and now it's here on the TSW forums. Just great.

    Hey glad you're enjoying your "joke" though.
     
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  27. toms87

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    Do we need to use strong language? I´ll just assume that if someone would have used swear words towards the other candidate, you would have reported it and been outraged.
     
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    Do we really need to bring all of this here ??? The forums are an excellent place to escape the real world and just have fun talking with others about our favorite hobby. Don't bring any of these here (And from any side so no one start whining)
     
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  29. Matin_TSP

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    that's sarcasm... right? Right??

    But anyway - before this thread closes, let's just head back to the 232 :)
     
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  30. noir

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    We don't have to limit ourselves to the most recent time, what German content is severely lacking are the older eras. We could even see them pulling heavy expresses and not just freights (although not sure how much that overlaps with VRot paint). But even the TSC Seddin was amazing route.

    Zusi Datenbank gives a couple of ideas of regions where we could see it running.
     
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  31. fabienlimp95

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    Something that i would love to see is something around the Time right after Unification of Germany when "Interzonenzüge" was a thing. For example Bebra Hbf, where those Trains came in from the east with Ludmillas and handed over to Bundesbahn electric locos. As bigger parts of the former GDR Reichsbahn Network wasnt electrified back then, Ludamillas played an important role there.
     
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  32. toms87

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    I don´t think so. Most German routes are set 10-15 years ago and Niddertalbahn/Linke Rheinstrecke is set in the 90´s. I´m glad we finally got a route set in present day with Frankfurt-Fulda.
    Anything before 1977 (West Germany) or 1990 (East Germany) won´t make sense, as Steam is not a thing in TSW anymore.

    I think DTG makes routes set in 2010 to avoid getting other licenses and making modern EMUs to be honest... with 2010 they can keep on reusing 146, 143, 111, 110 and the same old dostos.
     
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  33. mkraehe#6051

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    Interzonenzüge were trains between West and East Germany before, not after reunification.
     
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    Sorry to everyone who didn't feel comfortable with the picture. Satire is not to everyone's taste, nor was it intended as such, but rather just as graphic support for the locomotive. I didn't look at the forum yesterday, so I can only do it today.
     
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    In a more recent video he (Rotausleuchtung) took a Ludmilla + 187 from Munich to Wolfurt, through the unlectrified Allgau region. That was a wonderful trip.
     
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    Dresden Chemnitz would be Perfect
     
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  37. Dinosbacsi

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    Sad for the route not being RSN anymore, as I do like that route a lot.

    But I do look forward to it anyways.
     
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  38. daanloman#3930

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    I've been wanting to get back into that route actually.
     
  39. OpenMinded

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    I cant really play routes with the old lighting anymore... I am constantly trying but I cant. Simply got way to used to the new lighting. I really hope that TSG will find a newer route to place new locos onto!
     
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    Well whilst we wait on somewhere german they just announced the Austrian Mittenwaldbahn with the 1020. I hope garmisch and especially innsbruck aren't empty as there isn't much old stock ingame. I suspect there are more trains to be announced. I don't think as much as Just Trains add to their route but I hope at least a 4020 or a passenger loco. Maybe some freight wagons to fill up how busy Innsbruck is but we will have to wait till december. I wonder if the 103, 110 or 111 could fit in. maybe the 155 even. I'm not that familliar with the area but I suspect a thread soon.
     
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    Would the 232 have appeared on Linke Rheinstrecke in the period it is set? If so it would be great to see it available on there, although I gather it is in a more modern condition.

    That route is crying out for a freight locomotive but DTG only seem to interested in making more modern DLC.
     
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    I agree, I hope that in time most if not all will get a lighting upgrade.
     
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    Not really. The 232s did quickly make their way to the Ruhr area and their heavy freight trains after reunification, but not something like the Rheinstrecke. There's just no real way around that we need a 140/150/151 for LFR. There's not much else that fits the route and era.
     
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    It's set in 1989, before reunification, so no DR locos like the 155. As someone else mentioned, though, you just can't represent the 80s on DB without 140/141/150s and m-Wagen.
     
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    I'd really love some actual freight loco like those cuz the 110 on LFR isn't that great.
     
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    Given their versatility, it's really a 140 we need. While 150s (and 151s later) handled heavy freight and 141s local passenger traffic, the 140s did it all in a pinch - freight, local passenger, whatever... Thus, one loco would give much more believable traffic on all vintage routes. But this discussion is off-topic for this thread, so I'll stop there.
     
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    And IIRC the Mittenwaldbahn used 139s (140s with dynamic brakes added, cannibalized from retired 110s).
     
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    Oh yes. 3000hp pure sexyness.
     
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    Mittenwald does seem an odd choice since the 232 is being worked on not sure they ran that line.
     
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    I don't think the 232 is meant for Mittenwaldbahn?
     

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