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  1. TrainSimulatorFan

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  2. BjornGroen02NL

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    I'd like seeing a Dutch route in-game. Maybe Den Haag - Rotterdam? I guess that fits in the limit what SCS is reaching for (50-65 km)

    There are enough possibilities for this as the map you added, shows. I am Dutch myself so I'd really like a Dutch route in TSW. I hope NS doesn't screw it up with licensing.

    EDIT: Den Haag to Rotterdam is really short (22 km) so maybe another route or an extension might be better :P
     
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  3. Spookyrails1999

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    Yeah, id like it to see dutch ns routes! Please dovetail ad this! Ns trains are so beautifull and quite inside! Not as load as the br 143 and the br 182.2! Maybe the HSL (high speed line) would be fun to with the traxx in the ns livery! I would like to play that!!
     
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    I, uh, think the entire thing is just a bit of a stretch... but I'm sure one line could work, and that would be great!
     
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    Raildan, he just showed the map of the whole network here in The Netherlands. Of course this is near impossible to make the whole network, so the idea is that a certain route has to be chosen from this network, that is within the limits of DTG (50-65km) ;)
     
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    Love the Idea, I have been a big fan of the Netherlands especially some of the older equipment like the ICM, even if they have to do one line, that would still be great.
     
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    Well, there I go promoting again. I have also made a Dutch suggestion: Enschede-Amersfoort CS. It includes the ICMm and SGMm as standard, with many DLC and layering options. I'm really hoping to see Dutch routes soon :)!
     
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    It's most likely going to be multiple if they ever come. In streams they've stated that when they do a new country, they want to do multiple routes there so they can get more use out of the systems that had to be developed for it, and of course layer rolling stock.
     
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    I think it's worth pointing out that Clinchfield Railroad (Currently the longest route in game) is just over 60 miles. So I believe that 50-65km is very conservative. In terms of KM we're probably talking around 100. Miles around 65.
     
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    Do raise your expectations tooo much there. Modelling cities and yards is way more intensive per kilometer then forest scenery. They went into that on a recent stream, european routes have more switches, signals, buildings and stations, all of which making it more complicated to build. 50-65 is still short, for Dutch/German routes 70-80 km would be more realistic.
     
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    Oh hey, I posted that message almost 2 years ago. Back then the longest route we has was Rapid Transit, around 70 km if I remember correctly. Routes were mainly 50-60 km long. But now that they have the auto-gen tool, longer routes can be created in the same time period a shorter route would have taken before auto-gen. Still though, the distances between stations is much shorter in the Netherlands then in other countries, so a lot of models would have to made as said above by jolojonasgames . So yeah I still think a route between 50 and 65 km would be best. I will leave the rest to DTG for when they ever decide to create a Dutch route, they have much more knowledge of how to choose a route.
     
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    Good to see we have three differing opinions. I want 70-80 km, you want 50-65 km and trainsimplayer wants 100 km :). Luckily it's not up to us to decide.
     
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    Just wait and see, there will be someone who will find 250 km acceptable just becuase the route runs next to his/her house :D

    Of course it is totally up to DTG to choose. Tuesday during the Roadmap stream they discussed that it's not all about kilometres when selecting a route, but also about the time it takes to go from one to the other end of a route. Somewhere between 30 and 60 minutes was desireable, if I remember correctly. We'll have to see if we ever see a Dutch route, however we have been told multiple times DTG is interested in making one.
     
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    Not me suggesting a 115 km route just because I'll be travelling it a lot next year and it runs through my hometown ;). (Of course I did offer a shorter alternative).

    Yes, I think we watched the same stream. Dutch routes do fit the 30-60 min requirement quite well. In that amount of time a lot of fun can be had :).
     
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    My bad I hadn't noticed the date ;)
     
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    Not a problem. I did have fun reading back through what I wrote on this forum back then ;)
     

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