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Directx Version Upgrade

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by L0-Cache, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. L0-Cache

    L0-Cache New Member

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    Hello,
    will TS become soon a DirectX Upgrade (to DX11 or DX12)? This would open new possibilities for the graphics, performance and compatibility (if the developer team choose the right decisions).
     
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  2. DigitalRails

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  3. trev123

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    Basically I don't think this would ever happen as it would mean a complete rewrite of the game and probably not worth it now that there is TSW.
     
  4. L0-Cache

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    If the DirectX Upgrade never happen, DTG should move their capacities more to TSW because TSW has so short and much less routes/content than TS.
     
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  5. malikrthr

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    I really do hope that Train Simulator 2020 can get the upgrade to DX12. I can imagine Train Simulator would perform much better with smooth performance and little to no stutter with DX12 capable graphics cards.
     
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  6. trev123

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    Remember the core of this game is about 15 years old and as I have said above would never happen.
     
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  7. malikrthr

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    True, in order to obtain great fps from this simulator in it's current state, a processor that handles single core applications well is a must. I will say though, Train Simulator has gotten more stable over the years, and is definitely playable with the correct settings.
     
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  8. Hugh Janus

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    We were told 64-bit would never happen . . .

    We were told all new development (trains, routes etc) with Train Simulator would cease when Train Sim World was released . . .

    Never say never
     
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  9. L0-Cache

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    We see TS has still WAY more locos and routes (releases), the routes in TSW are so much shorter and are very inflexible (straight, much less switches, etc.). And TSW has still no editor and workshop...
     
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  10. L0-Cache

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    So the game that came out 15 years ago has more content available than the game which was released less than two years ago :o
    Who would have thought
     
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    Schnauzahpowahz Well-Known Member

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    They know TS is still the golden goose. Lets hope
     
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  13. malikrthr

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    Most definitely. Train Simulator is a good base and the content is all there for the most part. If only Train Simulator had the graphics and performance of TSW
     
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  14. Hugh Janus

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    Dream on. The whole point is that Train Simulator will be dropped as soon as Train Simulator World sells well enough. Be realistic - there is no sound business case in producing two simulators side-by-side.
     
  15. Peter Hayes

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    Well as TSw only uses DirectX10.0 we may have a long wait to get DX12.0 for TS20XX. However, it has been done for FSX (P3D) so it is possible.
    pH
     
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  16. L0-Cache

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    TSW has DX11 too.
     
  17. malikrthr

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    If anything, it'll be awhile till TSW phases out Train Simulator. Even though TSW looks good graphics wise, it is lacking in many areas which need to be resolved and ironed out first.
     
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    Apples and oranges in comparing TSW & TS2020. TSW will take years to match the revenue of TS and if DTG dropped TS, 3rd party devs would fill the void.
     
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    You have this as official information or it is just a rumour?
     
  20. Michael Newbury

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    I do not see Train Simulator being dropped Matt has has said repeatedly that it will remain and will continue to have content made for it.
     
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  21. DigitalRails

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    What is exact Directx version of TSW?
    10 or 11?
    What is the benefit of DX11 with respect to TS2020? Can we get PBR graphics or graphics at par ETS2 atleast in TS2020?
     
  22. DigitalRails

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    That seems to be a negative idealogy, do you think anyone will drop their profitable business in dump?
     
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  23. Michael Newbury

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    Here what I found that may help

    What is DirectX 11?
    The essential driver for Windows gamers
    DirectX 11 (or DX11) is a set of drivers distributed by Microsoft that offer improved visual and audio performance. Its main function, and the one for which it is best known, is allow you to run games with excellent state of the art graphics in video games.

    If your PC doesn't have the right version of DirectX installed (the product box should tell you which one you need), your game might not work properly. ... In the DirectX Diagnostic Tool, select the System tab, then check the DirectX version under System Information.


    What is the use of DirectX?
    Microsoft DirectX is a collection of application programming interfaces (APIs) for handling tasks related to multimedia, especially game programming and video, on Microsoft platforms.
     
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  24. DigitalRails

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    I have DX12 as checked from DXDiag
     
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  25. Mr T

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    Well, worse case is there is no more development for TS1. Even if / when that happens the game itself and the plethora of current DLC will still be available for purchase.

    However, from what I can tell there's no sign at moment of development for it ceasing. It might be a different story after TSW has an editor available and other companies are developing content for it.
     
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  26. Hugh Janus

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    Absolutely, it won't disappear altogether. It is, though, perhaps worth mentioning that Dovetail don't appear to have produced anything new themselves for TS2020 for some time (unless there have been some in areas not of interest to me) despite having a good stock of as yet unmarketed British locomotives they have acquired from another developer. It looks like all their work is going into Train Sim World. But as long as third-party developers continue making new material (whether sold through Steam or directly) we won't go short. For me, I'm happy with what I have already, it will keep me amused until I, my computer or Steam pops off!
     
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  27. Blacknred81

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    At least according to Steam, they have developed at least 5 DLC's for TS2020 since October. (Norddeutsche-Bahn route, DB BR 146.5 & BR 668.2,UP SD9043MAC, Granger Heartland Route, Regional Railways BR Class 142)
     
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    I don't but Hugh Janus seems to think so
     
  29. Hugh Janus

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    I would like to think it is practical rather than negative. To me a lot of the postings are wishful thinking rather than looking at the business sense behind it and the realities of life. Most of us would like Train Simulator to go on and on, but when you get to people asking for it to be brought up to Train Sim World standards I really begin to wonder.

    And who here is to say it is a profitable business? I am not saying it isn't, but so many postings in this thread are 101% assumption.

    The object must surely be to complete Train Sim World, after which Train Simulator will really serve no purpose. It is my view, and purely an opinion, that it is just being used to keep the business flowing towards that.

    Anyway, I've said my bit - I'll toddle along now and let the rest of you dream on . . .
     
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    No one is dreaming or wishful thinking. The simple fact is that TS sales is supporting the development of TSW. It makes absolute sense that they sell both at the same time. Add to that they are different products appealing to different markets and that not everyone has the computer specs to run TSW. That would also limit the market of TSW.
     
  31. Blacknred81

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    One thing that TS does have an advantage with over TSW is route length though, as aside from Sand Patch Grade, all routes are less than 50 miles in length, plus they have to be able to run on current gen consoles (Hench why SPG wont release on consoles).
     
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    Unlike TSW there are is a number of third party developers who continue to create new locos, trains and routes for TS2020,
    I think they might be a bit upset if DTG decided to not continue to improve the game.

    Peter
     
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  33. trev123

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    When TSW first came out you needed a fairly high spec computer to run it which mine isn't so I stopped using it. I never played it for about a year but after a few upgrades that DTG have done to it, it runs fine on my computer now on max settings. Intel
    i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz CPU, GTX 1060 6 GB graphics card, 16 GB of ram and Windows 10.
     

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