Dtg Are You Actually Trolling The Community?!

We might not like it, but the most likely root cause of delayed 3rd party patches is due to the consoles. Since we already know that DTG handles all the distribution, and 3rd parties are not game studios with their own relationships with MS and Sony, to get developer kits, they are at the mercy of what is available at/through DTG. And this most likely means that builds for consoles are prepared by DTG based on the code and assets that the 3rd parties commit into a release, while they can pack and internally test on PC the consoles need to go through DTG. And we know confirmed from the Medway issues that in depth PS5 testing is not really even being done due to them not being in Sony's proper Beta program.

In conclusion, DTG can prepare and submit updates for in-house content as often as they wish and keep to at least delivering something each month, while any patches coming for 3rd party content get placed in a queue of sorts in order to be processed by someone at DTG in order to get it through QA and into a patch window. If there is any issue it all goes back to the bottom when the 3rd party submits a new code revision. And most likely new content still takes priority over fixes.

Order of priority of what gets released to QA and in the end to stores, most likely is:
- New Game versions
- New In House DLC
- New 3rd Party DLC
- Core Patches
- In House DLC Patches
- 3rd Party DLC Patches

Both DTG Liam and DTG Lukas are now both 3rd pary developers and DTG team members as well (as far as I know). And not even their content that they produce as 3rd parties is exempt of the process, it would be immoral if they got preferrential treatment yes, at the same time these are the people that could help make the process better by seeing both sides.

 

Yes it is, but us as the consumer also has a voice that we can shout up. At the end of the day, the developers don't get paid unless we buy their products. There's a lot of people who won't buy stuff day 1 now because of issues, thats a MASSIVE headache for 3rd party developers who need the capital to pay staff and start new projects.

Fixing stuff in products, makes the brand stronger. Failing to fix, resolve and communicate with the community destroys a brand.

 

So you do say we shouldn’t be buying 3rd party DLC until it’s updated? I’m losing track you more make U-turns then a UK government (regardless of which party is in power)

 

And exactly out of Mildmay, WCMLoS and MAC where unplayable on release?

 

We are all talking in circles again, many great points have yet again been made, but as it stand unless something very drastic happens within DTG/Focus, and they actually engage with the community honestly it changes nothing, they will always keep going on as they are until It's either stopped by there bosses or they start losing money, and the latter is a double-edged sword, they would either change there approach or just can the lot.

 

I don't believe anyone has said they were unplayable upon release.... The issue is that when bugs are found, that can affect certain aspects of the route, DTG are taking far too long in getting the developers patches out to the public.

Sometimes routes break when DTG update the core engine, and then patches also take forever to fix issues caused by DTG's inability to QA their patch against the available product lines, because the process has become so disconnected.

I know what you're trying to do here redrev1917, you're trying to rage bait users like you often do in threads where you feel the topic of conversation is controversial.

All the users in this thread have been asking for, is that when users are eagerly awaiting for a patch, and the 3rd party developers say a patch is coming for a product, and it's been finalised and sent to DTG for approval and it then disappears, that communication is given. The product is slowly getting full of annoying, game breaking bugs. Some users can get over this small bugs, but for others it's a massive detractor that they've paid good money for, yet don't get something they can enjoy.

 

Not at all I replied to someone else saying a boycott was cutting their nose off to spite their face and he replied telling me I was happy getting ripped off (if that isn’t rage bait I don’t know what is). So no you are wronng when you say all users are asking is communication, some are asking for full boycotts which is silly and self defeating.

Just because someone has a different opinion to your own doesnt mean that they are rage baiting, its called a discussion forum for reason, if you dont want discussion and just want a angry mob echo chamber then maybe this isnt the place for you.

 

Then I apologise for my comments...

You're quite funny to be honest. I'm the one trying to keep this topic on the topic as the original poster. Actively encourgaing people to give constructive feedback here.

 

Apology fully accepted, let’s move on

And in fairness I owe you one, as I hadn’t realised that you and the guy who said I was happy being ripped off wasn’t the same.