Dtg Doesnt Care About German Content?

im sad that nobody is building the flughafen branch in the editor. i mean it is almost finished.

 

This thread is a good candidate for the yearly "Most useless thread 2023" award.

 

No it is not better at all, I want to see more German and US just as much as UK content and if any more new countries get added as well, bonus!

 

I already thought about doing so, but it is not that easy to enhance DTG routes as you might think (legally but also technically)

I already asked the team several times in which way we potentially could extend a DTG route with the Editor, but I got no response. From what I understood and experienced with route building so far is that we only can place assets on it using the so called "scenery overlay system", but not extend it or edit the scenery.

And that the answer to this is likely to be, no, it's not possible and editing or extending routes is only up to DTG themselves but not us.

 

Wow....




.....how can you not see that just because someone disagrees with you it doesn't mean they are defending the other side to your argument, it's bloody basic common sence logic.....

 

Let's be real. The only reason why this thread has not been locked ways ago, was that mods aren't around at weekends.

 

At the bottom of the roadmap it says ‘Subject to change’ so we could see more German content on the roadmap because it’s not said to be confirmed it may change or it will change

 

Which makes me wonder if it's the same person from either last weekend or the weekend before it that was trolling and I believe got banned for the multipleth time, it follows his style of starting a forum war when they know the mods ain't around to shut them down and deal with them.....

 

i dont think anything will change in the 0-3 and 3-6 months category. the only thing that could get in there is the DB BR 420 but this will not come until München augsburg gets a new timetable

 

No one said anything will. Only that there is a chance.

 

yea i know that. and i sayd what i think. even when there is a chance because of Maik goltz. maybe there is only a space between rosenheim salzburg and maintalbahn because there is a secret route

 

DTG are a UK company so it's not unreasonable for there to be slightly more UK content. As for the quality argument, that TSW World Cup topic is community opinion and not the definitive article on quality, it'll vary from person to person.

I think the majority of German content is on the upper scale of the quality ladder. I honestly have no major complaints with German content, I always enjoy my drives using it.

The USA side of TSW is what needs more attention, even to someone like me who knows almost nothing about US railroads, the quality difference between UK/GER and USA is noticeable.

UK is a mixed bag, but that's down to a lack of variety in rolling stock in recent releases. There's only so much you can do with stop and go, one handle EMUs after all, very samey. Historical UK rolling stock tends to be a lot more interesting and engaging to drive. Blackpool was a much needed break from the one handle modern era stock and it turned out to be the best UK route yet! Looking forward to the WSR update and the BR Green 104 too, glad Peak Forest is getting some attention

Anyway, I'm bowing out of this thread now.

 

It isn’t mine. You don’t get to decide what I do and don’t like.

 

Yes, you're right. It could and probably will. But this only counts for third party creator content I guess. If DTG would plan to release a route in this time frame, they would show it there. Mainly because it's of course a sell point for TSW4, even though the route project might not even be started yet.

And delaying is of course not an unusual thing for the timetable, if things don't get done as expected.

 

No, there is a space between Maintalbahn and Rosenheim because that is development time. If Maintalbahn hadn't released you could have expected a route in the next month or two, but, because it only recently released, there will be a gap.

This is how it has always been. Routes don't make themselves.

The only not-so-secret route in-between is the Goblin Line.

 

yea but DTG can make more than just 1 route at a time. they have more workers than before and now they make less content.

 

Pretty sure they focus on one.

 

but who is building on the austrian route then?

 

Yes: They're making Goblin, Rosenheim, the undisclosed US Route and, I presume, the Austrian route.

Goblin and Rosenheim will be much further in development than the other two.

 

Stop feeding the troll folks.

 

You're acting like dtg can release a route a week and that it's easy. You're also implying they should work overtime and not take any breaks since you're asking them to release a brand new route whenever there is space. It shows how little you know about game development. You know what. Go use the editor and try for yourself

 

Try to take a non-IC passenger train anywhere on DB that isn't either an MU or loco + Dostos. Go ahead, I'll wait.

 

This has to be a troll thread...but in any case, I'll bite
One of the focal points by OP in this thread seems to be the German release gaps and seemingly not getting another German route for at least 6mths based on the last roadmap

Let's dissect that shall we? Here are all the release dates of German (& German/Austrian) content to date since the beginning and the time since last release in bold. As we can clearly see, there is no "new route every 3 months". This is certainly not the norm as OP likes to put it
If we do number crunching we can average wait time between all releases to somewhere around 4-5mths

TSGs Niddertalbahn:drove down the averages a little and if we're only counting 1st party releases,. it may be closer to 6mths

TSW / TSW2020
15/12/2017 Rapid Transit
17/08/2018 Ruhr-Sieg Nord 8mths
21/02/2019 Main Spessart Bahn 6mths
10/10/2019 Rhein-Ruhr Osten 8mths
25/03/2020 Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr 5mths

TSW2
20/08/2020 Schnellfahrstrecke Köln - Aachen 5mths
22/10/2020 Hauptstrecke München - Augsburg 2mths
13/05/2021 Hauptstrecke Hamburg - Lübeck 7mths
9/09/2021 Bahnstrecke Riesa - Dresden 4mths
13/01/2022 Tharandter Rampe: Dresden - Chemnitz 4mths

TSW3
2/09/2022 Schnellfahrstrecke Kassel - Würzburg 8mths
6/12/2022 Bahnstrecke Bremen - Oldenburg 3mths
16/03/2023 Linke Rheinstrecke: Mainz - Koblenz 3mths
23/03/2023 Niddertalbahn: Bad Vilbel - Stockheim 2 weeks (3rd party)

TSW4
21/09/2023 S-Bahn Vorarlberg: Lindau - Bludenz (Germ/Aust) 6mths
28/11/2023 Maintalbahn: Aschaffenburg - Miltenberg 2mths

Germany literally just had a new release last month with Maintalbahn and the roadmap says there is another in 4-6mths again....there is absolutely zero reason to be complaining (or having this thread exist). Lets also put aside the fact that German content is by and large the most polished content in TSW. Sure; DTG don't care at all......

 

From a Dutch perspective there is far to much UK, US and German content and not enough Dutch content. If that is not possible< I will accept steam narrow gauge contant instead.

 

Very impressive work you did! I thought about doing so myself but gave up on the idea.

3 things to say:

1. OP high probably references the spring 2023 frequency as reference (the highest one of 3 german DLCs within 6/3 1/2 months - dependent on POV).

Mainly because of the third party release Niddertalbahn coming just so close after Linke Rheinstrecke, but also Linke Rheinstrecke came close after Bremen Oldenburg with just 3 months.

But as we can see now, this was very unusual.

2. I wouldn't count S-Bahn Vorarlberg for german releases because only a very short portion of the route is in Germany actually (even if you didn’t said so but OP is asking for german content only). So Maintalbahn for me is the first real german DLC after a long break of even 8 1/2 months.

3. Some people maybe are not 100% happy with the Maintalbahn release, so they probably don't find it to be an appropriate product for a 8 1/2 months break (the longest break in TSW history) for pure german DLCs.

I think OP mixes point 1., 2. and 3. to the conclusion or understanding that more german DLCs would be appropriate now.

Just speaking for my impression of the reason of this post, but not necessary my opinion.

 

You are just talking complete rubbish

 

Well, Voralberg is more of an Austrian route so there was a decent gap between Linke Rheinstrecke and Maintalbahn. Maintalbahn is also very short so I understand some reasonable, not completely silly that is, levels of disappointment from the fans of German content.
Especially considering the ocean of UK content released last year. BCC, Edinburgh Glasgow, MML, Peak Forest, Glossop, ECML and Blackpool branches. In the same timeframe, Germany got Bremen Oldenburg, Linke Rheinstrecke, Niddertalbahn and Maintalbahn, two of which are shorter routes compared to one shorter one in form of Glossop. And thats not counting the petrol stuff, the 323 BCC pack and the coming engineering express. While those might seem meh on first glance it is still UK content released and I would not mind getting something similar for German content as well.
So all in all, I would love some 3rd party content creators for Germany and USA as well since that is what makes all the difference in numbers.
But hey, at least the modders seem to be mostly doing German content so theres that.

 

One thing people seem to forget is that DTG and the majority of their third parties are UK based. It'd make sense for them to focus more on routes from their own country as reference material is probably easier.

 

DB has enough that isnt dostos. for example u can drive with the IRE200 (Regional Train). 5 wagons and 2 vectron locomotives. up to 200kmh trough the landscape of würrtemberg.
There are:
IRE200 193+193

Siemens mireo

DB Siemens Desiro HC


DB Stadler Flirt 3


DB Alstom Coradia BR 440

DB/SWEG Alstom Lint BR 622

DB Alstom Coradia 1440


DB BR 650

DB BR 430

DB BR 641

DB BR 644 or 643

And because of the Dostos..

 

please note: a release that was the biggest dissapointment in TSW history.

 

Which one?

 

maintalbahn

 

There have been worse ones.

 

yea but think about it... it should be TSW4 standarts now.. this route looks like coming from TSW2

 

And yet, US releases are of poorer quality.

 

they should make more US routes then austrian. Austria is trash. really nothing special there. everywhere the same trains... Switzerland would be a better choice and not austria..

 

So, not make routes for a country because the trains are all similar?

Same goes for UK, the south (especially southeast) only has electrostars which are all the exact same with minor differences.

 

this is why u put a route in the past. the newst route in TSW is like set in 2019 or something like that.

 

The further back you go, the harder it gets to find the reference material you need.

 

but still there is no modern route

 

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Still completely invalidates your 'German route every 3 months' claim.