Dtg Has Raised The Prices For Dlcs Yet Again!

Yes, I also noticed that too all the past DLC in TSW7 became on 200 rubles more expensive((

 

Still many bugs unfixed in TSW 6 DLC I've bought, I shan't be purchasing as much as I used to that's certain.

Last two times I've played it, I've ended on a crash.

 

Same thing as happened when Rush Hour came out. Was suddenly unplayable on XBox.

 

I did feel a bit worried after seeing the new features being PC focused. It did get me thinking if this could be the first sign console support could be getting dropped in the future.

 

it’s one of two things: either consoles support will end in the near future, or they’ll just leave it in this shitty state until the next-gen launch

 

Gonna be honest, I don't think they'd do that, and I'm the person who made a thread saying they should

 

The game has been in such a bad state for so long, and now the prices are being increased, and people are defending this because of "inflation". At least DLC's in 2020 didn't have blurry textures, never mind every other problem that does not get fixed - there are many. I don't even buy DLC or get blurry textures in my game, but honestly this has just offended and annoyed me a lot. In my personal opinion anybody who thinks it's okay to raise prices in this current point in time and situation with the game is actually delusional.

Choosing to do this now, at a time like this just seems so wrong to me. How about fix the game first and then think about asking for more money. DTG never fails to surprise me with this stuff, and for that is why I cannot give them any of my money ever again.

 

Id just like to point out, nowhere in Alex's message does he say "ALL future routes will be £32.99 going forward". He is clearly referring to the TSW 7 core routes being £32.99 each.

Misinformation spreads like wildfire

 

They ported a UE5 plugin so we could use DLSS and made DirectX 12 the default for PC (Xbox series users have been using DirectX 12 since the console was released). Then they made the Epic settings available in the game menu instead of having PC users manually modifying an ini file.

The image quality high end PC users will get is much better, but it didn't take them that much development time to do it. Other things like the live weather, haul mode, etc ... are where most of the development time was invested by a large margin.

Fixing the blurry textures is a difficult problem to solve and it's going to take time to fix, but it is not because they are focusing most of the development time on improving the PC experience as many think around here.

 

Fair enough but in past TSW releases the price of the individual DLCs was the reference price of all DLCs going forward for that year. You can't blame anyone for thinking that it will be the same this time.

 

Mine's gone up just under 30% as opposed to that 32 and a half of inflation.

 

Newsflash: DLC in 2020 had TOD 3, almost no layers, worse scenery and a lot less features. You want to return back to TSW 2020?

 

Newsflash: Games evolve over time but usually don't become more unplayable over time thanks to this.

Like most of the time, we can look at ETS2 to see it done correctly even if it isn't a direct comparison. Adding things and making the game more complex is no excuse

 

of course no one wants to return to that, but the state of the game doesn’t match the material quality of 2026 dlc

 

It’s very simple. While this game has blurry textures I don’t buy any DLC’s. If they can’t be bothered to fix a fundamental issue with the game like that why would I pay premium prices. I would advise everyone else to follow suit.

 

They are never going to drop console. Thats their cash cow. There is market for this game if it’s just a niche PC game like TSC. I dont know why people still don’t get this. They cannot drop consoles.

 

Remember when the Series S was £250? The new £430 price point for that "entry-level" console is an inflation-exploding 70% increase!
DTG don't have a choice of just waiting for the next gen consoles, the mooted £700 price point is going to make that an arduous slog to getting any kind of decent install base that can justify dropping this generation

 

Shrinkflation is real. There are tons of products they have lowered the amount you get but you pay more now. Cereal, Soda, Cookies, popsicles and stuff like that.

Seems to be the new norm nowadays

 

Okay, but what's a TSW7 route in Freddos by volume?

 

I don't know we don't have those in Canada to measure our inflation with.

We measure ours by the cost of a Tims coffee eh.

And they just raised the prices by a nickle but the cup size is 10ml smaller.

 

I’m not going to lie, i have had no excitement for TSW 7 at all and this might just be the nail in the coffin. This time last year i had the Deluxe edition of TSW 6 pre-ordered but haven’t given a thought into TSW 7. I remember the day when DLC was 30 and then raised to 40 and it wasn’t so bad. but 43$?? Next thing you know premium priced routes will be 48$. I will most likely get the base game and the GP49. I will no longer be getting DLC day one for full price. Absolutely shameful.

 

Love this argument that so many people seem to come to it. "This product isn't a life necessity so it must be made cheaper." Chocolate is also a choice and a luxury. As is a pint, or a steak. Do these get cheaper purely because they aren't considered essential to life? Of course not. Pricing is determined by the manufacturing cost, and inflation is inflation and affects all things in equal measure. Neither of those things stop because the product at the end of the process is a luxury and not an essential, and in TSW's case I don't think they should be expected to.

As was said above £25 in 2020 is about £32 today, so TSW's pricing is about right. This may be a controversial take but I don't think that should be expected to change just because your petrol has also gotten more expensive at the same time. That same petrol has gotten equally as expensive for the developers, so if anything the inflation of other things makes the development cost even more inflated as a result.

Also one more thing I personally keep in mind. £25 in 2020 may be equivelany to £32 now, but TSW routes were £25 as far back as 2017 if I'm not mistaken. So accounting for inflation, TSW routes have gotten cheaper anyway.

 

In my opinion, this price of 40 euros could be justified, but not given the game’s current state. If I’m spending 40 euros on a DLC, I expect it to work properly. I think it’s a shame because there are so many great routes I’d like to buy, but as the core problem still persists, these routes end up having bugs, blurry textures, and so on. But that would actually be the least of my worries. There are tracks in this game, such as WCMLS, which crash on me every other time I play them. Yes, I know I’m playing on PS5 and this is a DTG track, but it’s the same underlying issue. I’d play that route so much more often. Trent Valley or Nuremberg–Ingolstadt, for example, don’t have these problems for me, and I can put up with blurry textures to a certain extent, Frankfurt–Fulda, for instance, isn’t too bad. A CTD is a real pain, because it takes 10–15 minutes for the game to load, and sometimes an hour’s playing time goes to waste. It just feels wrong, the game in its current state. They’re welcome to raise the prices. I understand that, but then I think you’re entitled to expect a bit of quality, like on the Czech route, for example.

 

DLC was also £25 in 2022 for TSW3, and allowing for inflation from then the price would only be £29 odd, so we're above inflation if we're working from that.

I think most of the issue isn't so much the price increase as the fact that the DLC won't be well optimised on console and people aren't getting the same experience for the same price, if not more than people end up paying on PC given all the sales Steam users get compared to XBox. Yes, the costs of things increase, but I'd like to think that for that extra money I'd also get a product that works properly, which doesn't seem to be the case.

 

But the bugs are just as abundant....

 

for me, the issue is this.
Dovetail are increasing the prices of 'core dlc' (they say its just Core, but they also say a lot of things that dont end up being true now dont they) but have done nothing towards solving the many many issues console players are experiencing with the core game as well as many DLCs, and still have made no comments to say anything contrary to this, and do its doesn indeed seem to be true that Dovetail are focused on the PC segment and are abandoning the console segment.

some may say "but why would they do that, its where most of their income comes from" and i would reply to those, well the lack of updates, features, fixes, routes theyve sold us with objectively less content than the PC segement for the same money... these things dont really lend to Dovetail giving any F's about console players..

Dovetail are happy to come here to clarify what a "user eperience" manager does to help stop missinformation... but still STILL have said nothing about console... so is it REALLy missinformation? theyre not clarifying or correcting, theyre not stepping in to stop "wild rumours" theyre still sat there, quiet as a church mouse.. hoping we will all fall for thir deceptions and lies for another year...

There is nothing wrong with inflation related price increases, but surely i am not out of line for expecting the game i have sunk thousands of dollars into, on a platform that apparantly accounts for th majority of TSW players.. to work as advertised... is that too much to ask for?

 

they dont, but it makes as much sense as the comparison of Dovetail and TSW to a supermarket.

If a supermarket was pulling the same fluffery as Dovetail, there most certainly *would* be people up in arms about it.
Asda sells one person 500g of beef for 10 quid but sells the next person in the queue the same package, less 100g because reasons, for the same 10 pounds, in the same package...
and yes, the sales clerk isnt the one setting the prices that is a truth fact. but in this analogy the sales clerk is the MS or PS store. Dovetail Games is the supermarkets mangment, and they ARE deciding to withdraw those 100g from that specific customers package for reasons, they are the ones deciding the right and propper thing to do is not fix the game, increase prices and hide behind inflation as the reason.

Does inflation also stop you from fixing bugs, crashes and blurring textures? must be some mighty powerful inflation.

 

I quite appreciated the TSS take on the situation in his recently posted YT clip - voice of reason (as opposed to me). However even he stated it will probably lead to buying less content in future and fully agree with his assertion at this point we need some clarification from DTG with regard to what Alex stated on Discord.

 

Hello everyone,
to me, it all sounds as though DTG wants to charge the original price for these sales.
Let me give you an example:

(Please just replace your currency with the euro prices)
Let’s take a route for example that used to cost normally €29.99 and is currently in -30% sale.
0,30 x 29.99 € = -8,997 € -> 29,99 € - 8,997 € = 20,99 €

Let’s now take a route with the new prices at €39.99 and is also currently in -30% sale.
0,30 x 39.99 € = -11,997 € -> 39,99 € -11,997 € = 27,99 €

29,99 € - 27,99 € = 2,00 €

So you’re only saving 2 euros compared to the previous prices.
So we’re back very close to the original prices, even though the price has already been reduced.

I think this could be a very strict calculation on DTG’s part to ensure they don’t lose any more money whilst the price is reduced.

And those who say, ‘If it’s too expensive for you, just don’t buy it!’ have no idea about business. It simply means that DTG has less revenue and therefore no longer has the resources for new products. Which, in turn, could mean fewer products or even the end of the entire franchise. They rely on that money.