Eurostar

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  1. elaineedwards2013

    elaineedwards2013 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks, but also, when driving the Eurostar through the Channel Tunnel, that’s all.
     
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  2. FD1003

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    Tunnel starts at 1:15
     
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  3. elaineedwards2013

    elaineedwards2013 Well-Known Member

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    I have already seen these. What I meant, is that if the Eurostar does come out, maybe, in the future. I would love to drive the Eurostar on a full journey between London St Pancras International and Paris Gare Du Nord/Brussels Midi. That is all I was saying.
     
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  4. FD1003

    FD1003 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, misunderstood your message.
     
  5. elaineedwards2013

    elaineedwards2013 Well-Known Member

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    No, it is fine. Besides I have seen 2 driver eye views of the Eurostar. So, I pretty much know the power changes, the signalling systems, etc.
     
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  6. trainsimplayer

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    So you want to see a grey wall with lights? R.I.P. Money
     
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  7. elaineedwards2013

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    London, UK to Amsterdam, Netherlands
     
  9. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    The latest eurostar route 3hr 15 min end to end and this requires LGV 4 Antwerp Schipol Airport to be playable. Original route is Ebbsfleet to Paris Gare Du Nord and Brussels Midi to which a dlc transfer is available to Schnellfahrstrecke Köln Aachen
     
  10. 59321747

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    London, UK to Paris, France
    London, UK to Brussels, Belgium
    London, UK to Amsterdam, Netherlands

    DTG has indeed taken the Eurostar route. I know that the price may be ridiculously high at that time, and I will fully support one.
     
  11. trainsimplayer

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    is this like, route opinions?

    What is this supposed to mean?
     
  12. 59321747

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    DTG's Eurostar license, don't know when they can get the license. Hope to make progress in the coming year, this year is the era of steam trains.
     
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  13. trainsimplayer

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    that's if they decide to which I highly doubt.
     
  14. trainsimplayer

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    The route is far too long for TSW's current abilities.
     
  15. fabdiva

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    They are not - but the pan needs to be lowered for the height lock to change between standard and Eurotunnel heights, same with leaving the LGV at Paris - the height lock is different on the French classic lines - also I'm pretty sure they don't join the classic network at Lille - they stay on LGV though Europe station so should stay on LGV pan setting (there is a connection into Lille's Classic Gare for the Lille to Paris TGVs)
     
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  16. Coastway trainspotter

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    Yep , when I got the Eurostar last year from Lille Europe the train did depart and just sped right up to what I reckon was probably 300KMPH
     
  17. elaineedwards2013

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    Power Changes for the E300 (373) Eurostar:
    London St Pancras to Paris Gare Du Nord:
    1. HS~ 25Kv AC on British High Speed Lines (HS1) to EuroTunnel 25Kv AC (ET~).
    2. EuroTunnel 25Kv AC to Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC on French High Speed Lines (GV~).
    3. Grande Vitesse 25KV AC to 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines, passing through Lille. GV~ to F~
    4. F~ 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines to Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC (GV~).
    5. Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC to F~ 25Kv AC, Classic Line into Paris Gare Du Nord.

    London St Pancras to Brussels Midi:
    1. HS~ 25Kv AC on British High Speed Lines (HS1) to EuroTunnel 25Kv AC (ET~).
    2. EuroTunnel 25Kv AC to Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC on French High Speed Lines (GV~).
    3. Grande Vitesse 25KV AC to 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines, passing through Lille. GV~ to F~
    4. F~ 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines to Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC (GV~).
    5. Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC to Belgium 3000V DC (B=) on Classic line into Brussels Midi.

    Voltages:
    F= -
    French 1500V DC on French Classic Lines.

    B=
    - Belgium 3000V DC on Classic Line in Brussels Midi.

    F~
    - French 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines, passing though Lillie Europe and Classic Line into Paris Gare Du Nord.

    GV~
    - Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC on French High Speed Lines (LGV Nord/Belgium High Speed Line 1).

    ET~
    - EuroTunnel (Channel Tunnel) 25Kv AC.

    BR=
    - British 750 DC Third Rail Supply (not used anymore).

    HS~
    - British 25Kv AC on High Speed 1 (HS1).

    BR~ - British 25Kv AC on Standard British Lines (used by Eurostar’s on ECML for GNER).

    Signalling Systems:
    AWS/TPWS
    = High Speed 1.

    KVB = French Classic Lines (Classic Line into/out of Paris Gare Du Nord), on approach to London St Pancras.

    TVM = French High Speed Lines (LGV Nord and Belgium High Speed Line 1) and HS1.

    TBL = Classic Line between Brussels Midi and Belgium High Speed Line 1 (HSL1), similar to AWS.

    VACMA = Used throughout the whole journey, alerts (checks) the driver’s progress.
     
  18. elaineedwards2013

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    Power Changes for the E300 (373) Eurostar:
    London St Pancras to Paris Gare Du Nord:
    1. HS~ 25Kv AC on British High Speed Lines (HS1) to EuroTunnel 25Kv AC (ET~).
    2. EuroTunnel 25Kv AC to Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC on French High Speed Lines (GV~).
    3. Grande Vitesse 25KV AC to 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines, passing through Lille. GV~ to F~
    4. F~ 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines to Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC (GV~).
    5. Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC to F~ 25Kv AC, Classic Line into Paris Gare Du Nord.

    London St Pancras to Brussels Midi:
    1. HS~ 25Kv AC on British High Speed Lines (HS1) to EuroTunnel 25Kv AC (ET~).
    2. EuroTunnel 25Kv AC to Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC on French High Speed Lines (GV~).
    3. Grande Vitesse 25KV AC to 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines, passing through Lille. GV~ to F~
    4. F~ 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines to Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC (GV~).
    5. Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC to Belgium 3000V DC (B=) on Classic line into Brussels Midi.

    Voltages:
    F= -
    French 1500V DC on French Classic Lines.

    B=
    - Belgium 3000V DC on Classic Line in Brussels Midi.

    F~
    - French 25Kv AC on French Standard Lines, passing though Lillie Europe and Classic Line into Paris Gare Du Nord.

    GV~
    - Grande Vitesse 25Kv AC on French High Speed Lines (LGV Nord/Belgium High Speed Line 1).

    ET~
    - EuroTunnel (Channel Tunnel) 25Kv AC.

    BR=
    - British 750 DC Third Rail Supply (not used anymore).

    HS~
    - British 25Kv AC on High Speed 1 (HS1).

    BR~ - British 25Kv AC on Standard British Lines (used by Eurostar’s on ECML for GNER, but not anymore).

    Signalling Systems:
    AWS/TPWS
    = High Speed 1.

    KVB = French Classic Lines (Classic Line into/out of Paris Gare Du Nord), on approach to London St Pancras.

    TVM = French High Speed Lines (LGV Nord and Belgium High Speed Line 1) and HS1.

    TBL = Classic Line between Brussels Midi and Belgium High Speed Line 1 (HSL1), similar to AWS.

    VACMA = Used throughout the whole journey, alerts (checks) the driver’s progress.
     
  19. fabdiva

    fabdiva Well-Known Member

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    They don't join the classic lines at Lille - there is a 200km/h speed limit, but they stay on LGV all the way though Lille
     
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  20. elaineedwards2013

    elaineedwards2013 Well-Known Member

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    Precisely.
     
  21. Tanglebones

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    I would too. For me, it's the anticipation of bursting out the other end. I'd probably drive it with the HUD off so I didn't know when it was coming. But that's me. Probably fell on my head as a child. :)
     
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  22. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    You mean the 30 miles 50 km Channel Tunnel. Max Speed is 160 km/h (100 mph). For HS1 Channel Tunnel LGV Nord Calais-Paris Nord Europe Journey mode will be Chapter 1 Introduction Chapter 2 Goods Driver Class 92 Chapter 3 Le Shuttle Driver and lastly Chapter 4 Eurostar Driver and lastly Chapter 5 TGV Driver (Paris Nord Calais via Lille). This one can layer LGV Mediterranean Line because you have Calais Marsellie services and the Brussels Marseille Services TGV Resau 4500 series. Basically the Main Spessart Bahn of the French & British High-Speed Rail system for its ability to layer Different DLC Trains Class 373 374 & TGV Resau 4500 series Standard for the route and TGV Duplex LGV Mediterrean Line. Even the TGV 2N2 & POS for LGV Est a future DLC route can be layered here because those are used for Calais-Lille-Strasbourg services. Regarding the king of layers the Main Spessart Bahn layers that give services to it are RRO MRCE BR185 RSN DB155 Red DB BR185 & Rapid Transit DB BR182. In return Main Spessart Bahn gives DB BR146.2 and Rallion DB BR185 to RRO RSN Hamburg-Lübeck Haputstrecke München Augsburg Haputstrecke Rhein-Ruhr and Schnellfahrstrecke Köln-Aachen. Not rapid transit
     
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  23. elaineedwards2013

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    Not bad idea.
     
  24. DB628

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    This is the Eurostar Train in DB Livery from Frankfurt to Paris. 2F38D1E2-F4D6-422C-AB13-D2D58C7CE3C2.jpeg
     
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  25. elaineedwards2013

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    An ICE, but at the same time, the shape does looks like the E320 Eurostar.
     
  26. elaineedwards2013

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    upload_2021-4-12_9-38-23.jpeg
    E300, 373, Eurostar
     
  27. DB628

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    I mean this Eurostar Train, it’s the Same Version from the Deutsche Bahn ICE Train from my photo. 3B60F68F-0FF3-4222-9F4B-BAD357543E1C.jpeg
     
  28. elaineedwards2013

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    I know. I was just showing a picture of the other Eurostar, the old 373.
     
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