Evidence Of Rivets Involvement With The Cardiff Network Route

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  1. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    I've been wondering lately whether they are given enough time at all to do anything.

    It just seems like they're being rushed, which obviously results in poor quality DLC.

    Just an assumption of course, but would explain a lot.
     
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  2. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    You're completely ignoring the fact that some care about what you don't.

    As an example: I work at a station. I know exactly what it looks like. Now, if they got anything wrong, I would be rightly annoyed.

    Just because you're not bothered about things not being exact, doesn't mean others shouldn't be either.
     
  3. robert.miller

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    This route does not really interest me, but I want the class 153. I don't know how many sales of this route Dovetail have made but I think offering the 153 as a stand alone add on would make them a whole lot more.
     
  4. Double Yellow

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    Yes I completely agree, I mean the evidence is there to see.

    I can’t remember the streamer now, but I was watching someone last night and there’s an area of track from X to Cardiff queen street. The fencing, the vegetation, trees all looked plonked down and rushed like they put assets down just to fill the area without a second thought on how they looked irl. I haven’t looked up the comparisons myself via a irl cab view along line, but the streamer seemed to be familiar with the area and line and he wasn’t impressed.
    It definitely has the Rivet seal of approval on that part of the route for sure.
     
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  5. pinxtonpaws

    pinxtonpaws Well-Known Member

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    I've never looked inside the 2nd or 3rd engine pulling those half-mile trains across America but I'd still expect to see exactly what was supposed to be in there if I ever did.
     
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    If you do ever look inside the American locos in dp positions, you will see they largely behave exactly as in real life, with some exceptions (e.g. 'fencing' - look it up :))
     
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  7. ididntdoit

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    Rivet had a hand in making this car. Notice how the back is all wrong!

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  8. simulator fan

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    love it! quite true lol
     
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    I understand and didn't mean to sound like I was talking about you, thought I can see how that was more vague than I meant.
     
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  10. pinxtonpaws

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    They're given plenty of time by the sounds of things.
    I was watching an ambassador/beta tester (who may or may not have a large beard and/or a 'down under' accent) preview stream of Berninaline and whilst discussing some of the misplaced trees he inadvertently mentioned it was a little strange those errors remained in place despite the fact that they'd been reported AND the route had been signed off and shelved several months prior to his preview stream!.

    That's not exactly cracking the whip.....Rivet Games had more than enough time to revisit those minor issues but chose not to.
     
  11. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Thing is, is that enough time?

    Given they seem to be working on the core routes as well (as of last year only once, though may continue to do so) as their own, are they given enough time for one?

    I'd hardly have thought they'd work on one at a time. So, if they don't, maybe it's because they're given too much in too small a time frame.

    Not an excuse of course.
     
  12. foggy#2817

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    Except maybe Berninalinie. They did a good job there IMHO.
     
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  13. MarkCovz4761

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    I never got that route but people said it's good Rivet can do it just frustrating they don't maintain it
     
  14. OldVern

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    I owned Bernina before refunding. The No.1 issue is that it didn't actually complete the run into Pontresina and St Moritz which to me made the whole thing pointless. Guess we should have seen that as a forerunner as to what was coming with further short routes. While, what there was of it, route wise looked okay but the Allegra EMU typical Rivet - appalling physics with their trademark rapid jerk up to set speed and sounds nothing like the real thing. In any event, I presume the route building team for the Swiss routes at Rivet are different personnel to those who do the UK stuff.
     
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  15. astafic#8452

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    I had a feeling this route would be a dud from the very start which is why I steered very clear from it this go around. I don't like to doubt the work of DTG, but Rivet, oh yeah. I mean come on, there's just no possible way they are testing or reviewing routes thoroughly to not notice such blatant disparities in scenery throughout the route. Day one purchases are very much a gamble nowadays unless you watch an ambassador do a full run on the route. Certainly letting my money speak for this one, not a dime from me.
     
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    I just don’t understand why you wouldn’t WANT to do a good job on a route and make it as good as possible
     
  17. OldVern

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    Or indeed that DTG would want to tarnish their reputation by publishing less than stellar content. Then again... City Tram Simulator!

    I can only assume that money, as in the need to make it, is dominating the current DTG and TSW management mindset. So long as enough people buy the product and don't refund so as to meet the projected break even sales numbers then they don't care. However we the customers then end up paying broadly the same amount for something that oozes quality, like BPO, Shap or Mitt or a product like Cardiff that oozes... something else.
     
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