Expert Db Br 101 At A Record High In Sales

7:00pm on Saturday night.

36 Steam reviews total.
69% Mixed reviews.

I am calling complete BS on the OP.

Either the screen shot OP posted is photoshopped, or a lot of people are getting Steam refunds if they bought this thing.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/..._Expert_DB_BR_101__IC_Steuerwagen_Loco_AddOn/

 

Interesting point about the dual locos. I hadn’t considered that. Sure, there are various options from last mile 187s and 193s all the way to Euroduals (though I’d prefer something more commonplace than the latter and it would be a completely new loco in TSW).

The reason I went with the 185 and not the Vectron is that I felt more would be “gained” by an expert 185. The Vectron is already quite good while the 185 is a bit more bare-bones by comparison. I have to admit though that I might be biased since 185/186s are what I’m familiar with.

 

can definitely agree to that!

 

Don’t shoot the messenger here, that wasn’t my screenshot, but rather someone else’s I nicked off discord. I’m pretty sure they are on the forums somewhere, and they’ll probably clear it up.

 

What new devilry is this? Is that “Mixed” reviews I see? Why ever for? I had understood the expert 101 was the dog’s danglies according to the Steam charts.
Edit: looks like it’s Mostly Positive now, that makes more sense.

 

Most of the people who bought this loco, and gave it a bad review, probably can’t even understand it in the first place, which is somewhat understandable, I’m a TSW veteran from the og northeast corridor days and I’m still trying to get used to it.

I still don’t understand why people would give it a negative review because of it though…

 

I have a complete other result.....

 

I see…since 7pm, there have been 4 more reviews, in which, are positive.

those 4 reviews must have pushed the dlc into the “mostly positive” category.

 

Beware reviews are not very accurate in the timeframe..... They need to approved by Valve before release

 

Don't you check facts before blindly reposting things on internet forums?

It takes literally 3 minutes to check SteamDB, and could save you a lot of aggro.

 

While that's true, it also seems to be driving increased base-game sales; people are buying TSW4 just so they can drive this loco.

 

I do, actually,



And that’s why steam db and actual steam, say the same thing.

 

It's tempting, not gonna lie!

 

Like I say nothing against the expert DLC at all (I'd certainly buy an expert peak with reworked sounds and extra gubbins!) but realistically this is unlikely that people are buying the game just for this, in such large numbers anyway. If memory serves me correctly TSW was 35% off when it popped up on Thursday (may have been Friday) which would explain this more, as I would have thought the large majority of people who bought this DLC already have the game due to the niche of it.

 

Just a thought which maybe says more about my suspicious mind than anything else..
There are those who, for whatever reason, might not want to see TSW succeed. They may have recourse to purchasing a product with the full intent of refunding just in order to post a negative review.
As I say, just a thought. The other possibility is that it's an accurate reflection if course. At this point in time the evidence is insufficient, but it may be worth considering nefarious intent.

 

This is why Steam review percentages are a rough guide at best. I also think there should be a neutral option, as many add ons fall into the category, or maybe Amazon style 1 to 5 stars. There are also all sorts of factors which can tip the balance, not for one moment suggesting that would happen here but you get people associated with the product posting reviews to buff things up a bit. Or you get the haters posting negative reviews for no valid reason, how many restaurants or hotels have seen their business suffer after a negative review on Trip Advisor or similar.

Though the counterpart to that, is if you are in any sort of business offering a service or product then you need to be prepared for negative feedback, even if not justified.

My own personal experience is that if I find a product really good I will write a positive review, when I get round to it. More often than not if it doesn’t I tend just not to bother, or have refunded thus losing the option to leave a review.

 

Agreed. There's no substitute for researching a product, checking out reviews etc, even if something comes with a negative trend, especially for early access titles. Alternatively waiting until the general trend of reviews settles and commonality of issues or features stabilises.
I can't think of any good reason to base an opinion off a sub optimal sample size with insufficient input into the opinion forming process.

 

I think most versions of the ICE would make a good choice of being the next "expert" level train. ICE3 or ICET seem the most appropriate. We already have a lot of routes with them on, it's very likely future German content would have ICE on them, and IMO they're a staple train when you think about German trains in general.

 

Strangely I do tend to agree with this. As already discussed older traction has fairly basic mechanical and electrical functions and certainly no onboard computerisation.

Of course another factor is how far UK TOC’s and FOC’s would be prepared to license full operational technical data of stock currently in use on the network, for fear someone uses that knowledge for ill intent.

I still maintain the best use of “Expert” mode would be for DTG to get back in the saddle with steam traction, modelling locos to the level of Bossman or Smokebox in TSC.

 

I think for me a LGV nord (north) for TSW could be interesting the route is long it's true has big station Lille europe and Lille Flandres+ paris nord but the timetable could be massive on the route and for DTG can maybe make a a journey on it I could perhaps also give track plans for the next time I go on the LGV north for the rolling stock the TGV duplex 200 run most of time on the route and the TGV réseau can be added (tgv R 500° and 4500 BE version) and maybe even try to work with the French community for me a LGV nord from Lille flandres,Europe to Paris nord and C2G (airport) could be a interesting french project route

Link:http://fbrisou.free.fr/RAIL21/FicheTGV-D.pdf
http://fbrisou.free.fr/RAIL21/FicheTGV-R.pdf

French community support : https://www.rwcentral.com/ https://www.railsim-fr.com/
the french community has made patches on the TS tgv I am sure that the community can help you to have very good sounds on the TGV

 

I would certainly welcome the expert BR187DB as another locomotive in the family. Graphically, it's a nice locomotive, but the rest is bad. Expert mode would save this locomotive and make it a favorite of mine. Now it is used only as a backdrop.

 

Thanks Vern. Just a heads up- I moved my post to one which someone has created which deals with the expert suggestions. (In case you wondered )

 

LGV would by that definition fit in there because it was "popular" and takes "much less to develop." Very linear route, just one train, few stops.... By what you're saying the LGV would be the kind of content they WANT to do since it's relatively easy and "sells well".... if that was in fact the case.

 

“By what you’re saying”

Please point where I said that another French Route or TGV would be easy to make?

On the contrary another French route I suspect would be pretty difficult, especially a TGV focused line, long routes with limited stops, large stations & likely a pretty limited library of French assets.

That’s my point really, the LGV is popular & should be something that gets looked into as future content, but doesn’t since DTG can make easier content such as German & UK AC lines instead.

 

The LGV Expert would make sense in Belgium. A crosspoint of high speed trains from Germany, France and the UK.

 

The Railjet could also Run on a possible Riedbahn or Ulm-Stuttgart

 

You haven't explained why using less assets and having less to build would be more difficult though.

Guessing it has more to do with licensing than the train itself, as most things with DTG.
They have HST UK content and HST German content, so it's not like HST is anything special.
Seems more of a country and licensing thing, like why there's a lack of US non-west coast content and non-German parts of Europe.

 

Because it isn’t less?

 

Again, a claim supported by nothing.
It's frankly irrelevant because the point was why don't they do MORE, and I think it has to do with licensing anyway since they are doing HSTs and routes in Europe...just not France. No matter how many people SAY they want a route in France... if you can't get the license it's irrelevant.
That of course doesn't stop a third party from trying to negotiate with the French railway companies.