Frankfurt (oder) - Potsdam Hbf (via Berlin Hbf)

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  1. stohbeule0

    stohbeule0 New Member

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    Quick Facts:
    Length: 112km (The length I could not determine exactly, because only Google maps was available to me and I could only display a length in kilometers for a distance by car.)
    Max Speed: 160 km/h
    Safety Systems: PZB, SIFA

    Roling Stock:
    DB Br 182 with Dostos in DB Red Livery: 30912972060_4501e591cd_b (1).jpg
    (source: 30912972060_4501e591cd_b.jpg (1024×683) (staticflickr.com))

    DB BR 481 in S-Bahn Berlin Livery:
    csm_S-Bahn_2010_05_26_105_9016ef30d7 (1).jpg
    (source: csm_S-Bahn_2010_05_26_105_9016ef30d7.jpg (1200×628) (sbahn.berlin))

    Lines on the Route and some quick facts about them:
    RE1: Frankfurt (Oder) - Potsdam hbf (originally Frankfurt (Oder) - Magdeburg hbf): Length ca. 112 km, featured Locos: DB BR 182 in Db Red livery, DABpz(a) 757 (not sure if this is the correct dosto)

    S3: Erkner - Spandau: Length: ca. 45,6km, featured Locos: BR 481 in S-Bahn Berlin livery. The S3 line runs parallel from Erkner up to Westkreuz. After Westkreuz both lines split and the S3 continues to Spandau

    S7: Ostkreuz - Potsdam hbf (originally Ahrensfelde - Potsdam hbf), The s7 line runs parallel from Ostkreuz with the RE1 line

    All Stations featured on the Route for each line:

    S3 Erkner - Spandau

    Erkner
    Wilhelmshagen
    Rahnsdorf
    Friedrichshagen
    Hirschgarten
    Köpenick
    Wuhlheide
    Karlshorst
    Betriebsbahnhof Rummelsburg
    Rummelsburg
    Ostkreuz
    Warschauer Straße
    Ostbahnhof
    Jannowitzbrücke
    Alexanderplatz
    Hackescher Markt
    Friedrichstraße
    Berlin hbf
    Bellevue
    Tiergarten
    Zoologischer Garten
    Savignyplatz
    Charlottenburg
    Westkreuz
    Messe Süd (Eichkamp)
    Heerstraße
    Olympiastadion
    Pichelsberg
    Stresow
    Spandau

    S7 Ostkreuz - Potsdam hbf
    Ostkreuz
    Warschauer Straße
    Ostbahnhof
    Jannowitzbrücke
    Alexanderplatz
    Hackescher Markt
    Friedrichstraße
    Berlin hbf
    Bellevue
    Tiergarten
    Zoologischer Garten
    Savignyplatz
    Charlottenburg
    Westkreuz
    Grunewald
    Nikolassee
    Wannsee
    Griebnitzsee
    Babelsberg
    Potsdam hbf

    RE1 Frankfurt (Oder) - Potsdam hbf:
    Frankfurt (Oder)
    Fürstenwalde (Spree)
    Hangelsberg
    Fangschleuse
    Erkner
    Ostkreuz
    Alexanderplatz
    Friedrichstraße
    Berlin hbf
    Zoologischer Garten
    Charlottenburg
    Wannsee
    Potsdam hbf


    This route fits perfectly into TSW, as it can be created well with the rolling stock already in place. In addition, it has long been a wish of the community that the S Bahn berlin or anything at all from the Berlin area comes into the simulator. In my opinion, this can be done best with this route, as it contains both the S-Bahn known for Berlin but also the Regional Express and Regional Bahn trains, which also characterizes the picture on the rails in Berlin. The most challenging part will be to make a realistic timetable for the timetable mode, because especially in the area between Ostkreuz and Charlottenburg the trains run very closely timed, because here four S Bahn lines run on one track (S3, S5, S7, S9) so there is a lot of traffic going on. It will also be difficult to implement freight traffic on this route, since freight traffic only runs between Wuhlheide and Frankfurt (Oder), but there is no freight station in Wuhlheide, only a branch that goes to one. In addition, a EuroCity to Poland departs from Berlin Hauptbahnhof about 3 times a day and also stops in Frankfurt (Oder). However, this train does not run with the BR 101 and also not with the classic Intercity livery. In addition, there are other double-decker cars on this route than the ones that have been in the game so far. But it wouldn't be too bad if the already existing double-decker cars were used, since they don't differ much externally. The 112 also run on the RE1 Line, so it could also be implemented in the Timetable.

    (For certain senctences I used a translator so sorry if my English is bad sometimes)
     

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  2. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent route indeed and PKP Polish Railways does use a Taurus locomotive EU44 on this route. Frankfurt Am Oder is where the 15kv 16.7hz Sifa PZB Germany Austria 1.95m pantographs voltage boundary to the Polish 3kv DC Shp starts. By the way, competitor Simrail has made this route for PKP Polish Railways using an EU44 Cab for train drivers that are going to Berlin via Frankfurt Am Oder.
     
  3. stohbeule0

    stohbeule0 New Member

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    Yeah I know that they use Taurus locomotives, maybe it could be implemented in the game but I dont think they would do it.
     
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  4. lukas#1835

    lukas#1835 Active Member

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    My homeline Frankfurt (Oder) very nice suggestion
     
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    lukas#1835 Active Member

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    S-Bahn Berlin and RE1 are very cool
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    EU44 has an Austrian Cousin 1216 to which DTG can make first provided an Austrian route is made first then this one. Because the EU44 Taurus can be made by Reskinning the OBB 1216 exterior but the cab needs switches for SHP in addition to PZB, LZB ETCS & Sifa.
     
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  7. stohbeule0

    stohbeule0 New Member

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    haha xD its my homeline too. But beside of that I really think that this would be a good route for tsw
     
  8. stohbeule0

    stohbeule0 New Member

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    Yeah ok, but honestly I must say it wouldn't be too bad (for me) if they don't use the correct Taurus or even the br101
     
  9. lukas#1835

    lukas#1835 Active Member

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    Do you come from Frankfurt Oder?
     
  10. stohbeule0

    stohbeule0 New Member

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    No I'am from Schöneiche (near Erkner) but I use the RE1 mostly daily
     
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    lukas#1835 Active Member

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    Ah Ok
     
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