How is it with todays high tech rail control centers no one there monitoring the various train traffic on the big digital board or even a PC didn't notice the passenger train go thru a switch or at least see the two trains on the same track headed for each other.Does the rail command center only work 9 to 5 or was everyone taking a smoking break? Look for my next post for a answer..
That's really bad, I can't even imagine what the families of the people involved are going through right now.
The station master of a station where this happened has been arrested on the suspicion of negligence. 36 are dead including the drivers of both trains & 55+ are seriously injured. All we can ask from the almighty is peace for the departed, prayers for families, and hope that maybe those in charge will ensure that it never happens again...
Just got the answers to my own question on the news... 1 There wasn't any safety systems in the trains to warn of danger ahead (They haven't been implemented yet). 2 There "was" a traffic control center to monitor trains locations on the network "BUT" it was dismantled in early 2020. This can't be real what rail company would be so stupid to do stuff like this? This wasn't just a tragic accident,this was a disaster just waiting to happen!
For the Greek Railways they should Put in a Positive Train Control system which is ETCS for the route. Keep in mind electrification on the route dates back to the 2000s which is for the Athens game
Be wary of the news outlets. They often don’t understand the railways and try to simplify what’s happened for the benefit of the average person which can often distort what actually happened. It’s pointless to speculate until the truth is published but it is perfectly normal that control centres don’t know exactly where a train is. Large areas of the UK network do not have track circuits or use 200 year-old signalling techniques where there is no real-time information on precisely where a train is. However under no circumstances would they allow a train into the same section without some form of protection in place. It will be interesting to read a proper report. They usually take a few months however.
Unfortunately in Greece on 28/2 (23:21) an accident occurred (head-on collision of 2 trains, one passenger and one commercial at a speed of 160 km each) with perhaps more than 100 people dead (57 have been confirmed and 58 are missing due to the fierce conflict and the fire that burned the first 2 wagons of the train), mainly young people-students, because: 1. The railway in Greece simply does not exist in reality... It is a discredited means of transport in favor of mainly road transport. 2. There is no in operation or probably has been abolished since 2020 the central control of the network (ETCS) and furthermore safety systems such as LZB, PZB, ATP, SIFA or similar are NOT in operation. In addition, the trafficlights do NOT work. To be precise, they operate on a small part of the railway network which does not exceed 200 km at most. So due this the maximum speed in Greece is 160km/h and planned after the ETCS full operating the speed reach 200 km\h ("new" ETR 470...) 3. The operation of the railway is mainly done with the systems of previous decades, i.e. with station masters who supervise the traffic and coordinate with switch points supervisors who change the railway lines depending on the traffic or orders from the station masters due the traffic. 4. The station master shift at Larissa railway station, a large intermediate railway station with a lot of train traffic, had only 5 days of duty at the station and a total of one month in this position (station master) after 7 months of training and practice. He age of 59 years old and he is "Rookie"... The Station Master was working alone without a assistant even though there was increased traffic after holidays (carnival), and finaly have done mistake and placed the passenger train on the railway line 2 (left) instead of the railway line 1 (right), so the 2 trains they run in the opposite direction on the same railway track for 12.5 minutes without anyone realizing the mistake! 5. The 2 drivers of the passenger train did not realize the mistake due to problems that the uphill railway had all day at earlier points of the route and thus believed that maintenance work was being carried out on it. After 20-25 km the 2 train have the deadly collision Some Pictures The fronts of 2 trains The place of the collision
What a horrible tragedy. Unbelievable, with all the technology they could have had available. And it seems just for a few meters and seconds the two trains didn´t hit in the tunnel. I don´t want to imagine what inferno that would´ve been.
So i'm guessing the red/white,blue/white things between the red/white bus and the wagon with 2 shipping containers are what's left of both trains locomotives.Any idea what kind they where?
The electric locomotive is a euro Sprinter which is called OSE 120 electrical system is the same as existing locomotive in game Red Black and Yellow Baureihe 182 ES64U2 Taurus locomotive The ones that were involved in the train accident where 120 012 022 & 023 had to use the English Wikipedia for the locomotives involved If the United States sent the national Transportation safety board to alongside UK RAIB to assist the Greek investigators both agencies from the United States and United Kingdom that specialize in train accident investigations would have actually told the Greeks to put in positive train control being ETCS to prevent this from happening
The signal system there now useing is very similar to the signal systems used by the early railroads in the 1840/1850's.
