Gwe Remaster: Appreciation And Discussion Thread

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  1. coursetim

    coursetim Well-Known Member

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    From what I understand you'd have to create the GWR 387 in a way that GWR would be happy with. Like the license would dictate what you can and can't do officially. I imagine modders can/will do it though.

    Kind of like how ATS are showing the 90 with different liveries that are unbranded until what they can/can't do is finalised/approved with the appropriate companies and they can show the branding.

    Plus if DTG did if officially they'd want to make the right subclass of 387 and not reskin the wrong one.
     
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  2. Concorde9289

    Concorde9289 Well-Known Member

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    Isn't Heathrow Express a no-go licencing wise? If so I don't get why the unbranded version was removed, since the opportunity to create a branded version probably won't arise.
     
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  3. parder#4923

    parder#4923 Well-Known Member

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    Yes if it was a playable service GWR would probably want all the interiors to be correctly branded/labelled.
     
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    tom#2834 Well-Known Member

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    Nope.

    I was quite hopeful, but not a jot of difference unfortunately.
     
  5. mati147014

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    So the route will only use one 387 and not two. If GWR 387 was to be released, then that would be used as HEX base, if they left GAX 387 as HEX, then you would need Brighton Mainline for one class 387 to layer on the route, and GWR 387 DLC to have the other class 387 layer. So it's better to give us neither.
     
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    vodka#2734 Well-Known Member

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    Many screenshots from consoles don't even look like 4K, as if the built-in upscaler increases the resolution.
     
  7. James Sideras

    James Sideras New Member

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    Personally, I'm quite disappointed that there are no 387s included in the timetable for the Hayes & Harlington runs as it was shown to include on page one of this thread.

    I guess it came down to a theoretical 387 coming in the future so we won't do it now & we'll make players wait even longer so it's less work for them to add it in in the future. Hopefully someone can mod the timetable to include the 387s.

    Without including this, the DLC doesn't really include much in the realm of modern traction to the route, just more variations of 166s/43s & 1 test run 802 plus some core changes to bring it up to modern day standards. I do hope the 387 can be re-entered unbranded to include this gameplay.
     
  8. DTG Liam

    DTG Liam Staff Member

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    There's a lot of differences between the 2, both exterior and interior. Plus costs that can come with using a branded logo/image/livery.
     
  9. SierraOscar95

    SierraOscar95 Well-Known Member

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    I think if I read between the lines correctly, I'm under the impression DTG are probably in the process of trying to create an official GWR 387 behind the scenes, hence the move to withhold the unbranded 387 services in the remaster.

    If we look at how many layers feature on this route, it would be odd to pull one of the layers for no reason. With Liams eye for detail I'd be surprised if he just removed it... I'd imagine he'd only remove the unbranded layer because there is a official one in the pipeline somewhere, which is unannounced or atleast the vision. Which in the long run, players would prefer a officially branded GWR 387 if I've read the room right.

    The Inter7City HST is in the pipelines somewhere, and I'd imagine a GWR 387 would be just behind that. Liam wouldn't remove a layer unless he thought something of substance and officially branded and better is being developed behind the scenes.

    Well thats my theory anyway!
     
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  10. foggy#2817

    foggy#2817 Well-Known Member

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    It does include the 350 that runs the Heathrow Connect services, and that was only added later. Don't forget to mention that.
     
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  11. Concorde9289

    Concorde9289 Well-Known Member

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    Thats alright I suppose. One of the things that caught my interest was the mention of an ex-C2C 387, so it'd be nice if that could be included with an accurate interior if/when an official version releases.
     
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