Gwe Update For Tsw 2

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by djhawtin1, Mar 19, 2021.

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  2. No, and don't suggest anything like this again

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  1. djhawtin1

    djhawtin1 Well-Known Member

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    Right, i am sorry but this thread has been closed and i am getting a moderator to lock this post and is driving the community a wedge between us and i am saying for the time being, Stop Posting on this Post as it is making the community split in-Half
     
  2. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Right... personally it's just the usual back and forth between people who spend far too much time on this forum for their own good (ie me)
    But feel free to get it locked, it's your post after all
     
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  3. djhawtin1

    djhawtin1 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed but thinking about it ill just unwatch
     
  4. dhekelian

    dhekelian Well-Known Member

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    If DTG were thinking about an extension to this route or even a complete new one (Paddington to Bristol at least) but were not sure about what era to do it in then why not ASK the forum to get a general idea. DTG have already said most people who have TSW2 use these forums so why not ask?
     
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  5. driverwoods#1787

    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Actually it would have been closed as of right now provided a member of the train Sim World Community has the actual Railway Express magazine issue. Here is the link to a portion of the April Edition https://www.railexpress.co.uk/7736/preview-april-issue-of-rail-express-magazine/. That means old oak common depot got closed One month ago February 2021. The best option for the route should be set in January 2020 because that was when GWR electrification has reached Bristol South Wales to Newport/Swansea
     
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    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    If you don't want to read the thread, click unwatch at the top of page. This has been a regular thread. Some people agree with your idea, some don't. That is how these work. You can't expect everybody to agree with your suggestion, and having a tantrum when they don't won't do you any good.
     
  7. djhawtin1

    djhawtin1 Well-Known Member

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    That is MY entire point i was the one whowas trying to keep the peace and when you have Constant immature comments on it you don't want it and i cannot find a moderator to do this so can anyone suggest a mod to talk to?
    [Edit- i Have unwatched MY Own thread but i cannot seem to stop the Notificatons]
     
  8. stujoy

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    You weren’t trying to keep the peace you were telling people who disagreed with you to stop posting. Your immature comments are getting annoying, I’ll give you that. If you stop posting the thread will go away soon enough.

    One of the choices in your poll was “No, and don’t suggest anything like this again” That’s the one I would choose now.

    EDIT - I thought that wording in your poll indicated a sense of humour at first, but now thinking about it, it looks like the perfect set-up to you being able to ‘play the victim’. Looks like it worked.
     
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  9. ARuscoe

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    IF DTG decide to rebuild the route and IF they can get a license for the 80x then I would agree a full electric route would be the way, purely for "accuracy into the future" terms. I would also mean they'd have to eventually get a 345 in game as well as whatever is running the branch lines (which seem to be 165/166s anyway)
     
  10. djhawtin1

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    The part i highlighted in Bold was a joke
     
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  11. tallboy7648

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    Ohh I see. Maybe having it set to 2020 would be a good idea
     
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  12. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    That would make some sense. Nobody asked for a 70s pack for gwe and the experiment failed. From what I have seen most want a electrified version of the gwe route, branch lines and a extension
     
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    Define “failed” ? I see plenty on here who bought and enjoyed it
     
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    Mostly negative reviews
     
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    Maybe it was a failure and maybe it wasn’t - the telling will be if they try anything like that again really
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    If those Licensing deals are obtained then your in game tutorial will retain Old Oak Common the setting for class 80x Electro-Diesel Trains and also the main line for Class 345s & 387s. They can't even set it in 2021 because if you were able to read the current Rail Express magazines it should tell you Old Oak Common depot got closed since the last remaining trains Based there are class 332 Heathrow Express trains.
     
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  17. ARuscoe

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    If they rebuilt the route to "today" then they'd have to include the new depots at OOC and Reading
     
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    Exactly and those will be the tutorial level for the New GWR Trains OOC for Class 800 & 802 while reading serves as your class 387 & 345 tutorial. In timetable mode, there's going to be a trip that requires you to bring a train into those depots from Reading Station. In Train Sim World 2020 & Train Sim World 2 the Swansea to Paddington Station when completed requires a depot move to Old Oak Common. When GWML is upgraded to 2020 look the same Swansea to Paddington Station train will require a depot move to OOC on either Electric or Diesel Power. While terminating Class 387 & 345 from London Paddington Station to Reading stopping service requires the move to Reading TMD from Reading.
     
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    Pretty sure 345s are at the new OOC depot...
     
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    Yup, just passed them on the train. I don't know where the 800s are stored but I think there's a Hitachi depot near OOC
     
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    I actually bought the pack but still think it has failed so many people here. I bought it cause I have the Raildriver and cause I use mods to make the pack half decent otherwise I wouldn't have gone anywhere near it. I just hope DTG have heard the criticisms and will add a bit of immersion next time.
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    If you look at the Old Oak Common Depot area it's on the south side of the GWML while OOC is on the Northside of GWML. What will happen is this North Pole Depot tutorial level for Class 800 & Class 802 trains. OOC was the HST Tutorial level.
     
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    The reply is getting popular again
     
  25. ARuscoe

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    I'm posting what's happening IRL, and if they rebuilt the route DTG are likely to simulate this, so I don't quite get why you keep talking about tutorial levels...
     
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    GWE NEEDS TO UPDATE I WOULD LOVE A DLC CALLED THE NEW ERA OF THE GREAT WESTERN
     
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    driverwoods#1787 Well-Known Member

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    Point that I'm trying to make with the tutorial levels is that it helps players familiarize themselves with the train without the train safety systems enabled. For these trains training level required to reset aws just like HST.
     
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    So if they have NP TMD the tutorial level* and the Crossrail depot on the OOC TMD would help people drive the locomotive buuuuuuuuuuut if they don't want the depot, just some sidings, they can just start at LP or reading
     
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    Absolutely correct the way you do that is go to the menu then service mode. Some of them require a Depot move towards Reading or London Paddington Station to start service. One of those is 05:29 Reading to Twyford service Class 166 that requires a move from the Reading TMD to Reading station in order to start the service.
     
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  30. ARuscoe

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    For me timetable mode should have every service recorded on WTT, including stock moves, ECS, prep moves etc so depot to start location should be on there, and not just as "tutorials".
    The tutorials in game would be better off being like the academy in TSC where there's a dedicated "dummy route" with very limited functionality but it teaches you the workings of the loco/engine/consist in question
     
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    North Pole Depot to Paddington wouldn't be a bad tutorial run. The 345 tutorial would be from Old Oak Common to Paddington (would be really cool if they had the Crossrail station modelled because I believe it's almost complete but not in service). Are the Heathrow Express trains still stored at OOC or have they been moved?

    In my opinion, the electrified route would come with the GWR 800/802 and the GWR 387 with a pre-tfl timetable and later a class 345 dlc that would change the timetable to reflect present day (or send them into the tunnels)
     
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  32. trainsimplayer

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    it was constructive critiscm. He's saying the 800 would be better on a new route, because frankly there is very little chance they will redo GWE.
     
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    I'd just love to see more than a third of the GWE route as we have now. The line goes from Paddington to South Wales not just Reading. Again, it was DTG that said they have no problem doing longer routes so long as they are interesting. The full GWE route is interesting and popular so I wonder what DTG's excuse will be for not doing it?
     
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  34. driverwoods#1787

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    If you look at the April 2021 issue of Rail Express magazine what happened to the Heathrow Express trains is that they got scrapped
     
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    To be fair it's a hell of a long route all the way from London - Wales so I think performance and their ability to make it in a reasonable time plays a big, big role.
     
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    That was the 332s. The Class 387s have replaced them.
    The Class 360s, replaced by 345s, are now owned by Rail Operations Group, although it is likely they will be stored and later scrapped anyway.
     
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  37. driverwoods#1787

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    That's what the Rail Express magazine is actually about and perhaps someone from Dovetail Games should be reading those then doing the DLC. The best time to do GWML TSW 2 is 2020 because if they did it in 2021 Old Oak Common Depot is closed.
     
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    Routes do seem to be slowly getting longer and longer. Clinchfield is 62 miles so maybe in the future a modern gwe route from London To Bristol could be made especially with optimization updates on the way
     
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