Harlem Line: A Fantastic Route And One Of The Most Enjoyable In Tsw

Again, you're speculating. Nothing has been said an editor is coming so saying you think it's going to come vs it's actually going to come is 2 very different things. Unless you're some developer for dtg or a beta tester but that would be a breach of contract and nda.

 

i didnt ask for your opinion about me which even isnt true.
what we get from DTG is US,british, german routes at the most and 1 french route and 2 swiss routes till now and that is for me enough country wise.
of course i would like to see routes from all around the world but who not ?
thats also not part of this thread.
my question was clear and i already had an answer to that thx mate.
keep driving and have fun

cheers

 

Australia has trains? I thought everyone rode around on kangaroos…

 

What do you think the kangaroos ride when they get tired of schlepping us around?

 

Makes sense when you put it that way

 

I would say the Harlem line has the best scenery compared to any of the other US passenger routes. The red light issue is no longer a real problem but the route on a lot of services still suffer from a empty train traffic run. Meaning literally you see no trains the whole run. The gameplay is solid and love the variety of services they have. Now the trains themselves the M3a is fine but the M7a as much as I love it unfortunately still not accurate. Mainly with the horn of Course, accelerates way too fast and unrealistically. When you put into emergency brake. It releases a looping air pressure which is super annoying. Both Long Island rail Road and Harlem line suffer from a lack of or no track noise and no not junctions/switch sections but throughout the whole routes.

I think a new locomotive/extension to New Haven adding the M8 locomotive would complete the Harlem line as there's a few more trains that can be added to the line and beef up the timetable. Boston sprinter is the most complete along side of peninsula Corredor when it comes to the amount of train and services, but I do find them to be dry routes meaning, not as fun. Acela on Boston sprinter is the more better experience you get and on peninsula Corredor the baby bullet and MP 15 AC are your winners for being good. Maybe bullet currently non-selectable from what I hear on the older versions apparently? Could be a glitch I don't know.

Long Island rail Road, being dry with only three trains you will see a run still to me, has an amazing variety of service amongst its branch lines. The dreadful Atlantic to Hempstead or Atlantic to Hicksville and the many others which made this a favorite for me when I first played, five years ago, reaching level 507, just on Long Island rail Road alone. The train sounds are better than before but far off from being accurate but the train itself "M7" feels very accurate when driving now compared to before and I think is exceptionally great to be honest. No complaints on the m3 other than again the horns no track noise. Before I forget to mention the joint track noises that are on the Long Island rail Road are very good compared to the sad sounding Harlem line joints which to me don't know why, but I did bring to dtg's attention.

Sorry for the long read and thank you all in advance for the ones who did take the time to hear my small reviews lol. The top US Route can still be given to Trenton to New York if that new timetable receives the south eastern high speed and or London commuter treatment.

Community challenge, I recorded on the Harlem line, which I only remember seeing three trains, but don't remember. Now that the route is fixed for red light issues I will be playing a lot more as I am enjoying the route. And have played over 60 services at least.

Here's the video in case you guys would like to check it out
All stops 500 and all safety systems on. I normally come in to stations at 55 60 mph and accurate stopping on Long Island and Harlem, but in challenges hopefully a lot more safer lol you will see what I mean.

 

Fair comment.

I have been on US Amtrak trains and the LIRR and the New York Subway.

Yes we all want to see another LIRR line added (maybe Montauk someday with a Long Beach branch). But trains in Europe are very good.

And Sydney has double decker trains that are in my opinion better than LIRR. Melbourne in Australia has a bigger network than the LIRR and absolutely deserves the Frankston line with Stoney Point extension (diesel to Stoney Point).



You can see the Opera House from Circular Quay and also the Sydney Harbour bridge.





Opera House and Harbour Bridge icons of Australia and Sydney






Enjoy!

 

Interesting Melbourne low down-Frankston line and Flinders st and Stoney Point

 

Technically that wouldn't complete the Harlem Line, that would complete the New Haven Line
It would make the Harlem Line busier though if DTG bothered to layer the M8 or merge the two routes!

 

The same way, Matt hinted on adding acela when Boston sprinter came out, he did the exact same thing when I asked about the M8 for the Harlem Line back on its release and highlighting the same way he did. The different tone on still wanting to do so may have shifted due to the poor reviews Harlem Line received at release because of the red light issues. I completed 50 services within five days and made several bug reports which made me go to Reisa, Dresden, and London commuter. Well, if Harlem line is being re-baked for a possible future versions of Train Sim World there's a high possibility of an extension similar to southeastern high-speed. The extension being possibly like I mentioned, New Haven and the M8 however you want to put it it's going to beef up the timetable, making Harlem line great
And feeling a lot more complete.

 

Have you done that? Last time I tried a couple of months ago, the M3 service #2519 was impossible to complete - got stuck on a red light as train ahead of got kinda lost. Let me know if you successfully completed this timetable.

 

Yes, I have completed all 49 M3A services (and quite a few M7A services as well). If you get stuck at a red light, my recommendation is to spawn in on foot for that service. This worked for me on the few Crestwood ECS moves that I could not complete otherwise. However, I am on Xbox; I have heard that the red light issues might be worse on PlayStation.

 

I have also completed all M3A services.If I remember I think that’s what I did to complete that service was spawn on foot. I have simulated a whole day timetable a couple of months ago and nothing got stuck. I remember I use to see the pile of trains stuck . I can say haven’t ran into that. Not saying is all fix but drastically reduce occurrence.

 

Even the 2519 one? They might have fixed it, I know they were promising some improvements.

I'm on Xbox too and I don't think spawning on foot helped with this particular one. In this one, you drive a deadhead train north from GCT and somewhere near Crestwood (I don't remember where exactly) there's a train ahead of you on the righthand rail that is supposed to move across all rails to the lefthand one. And it didn't.

 

If the 2519 is a M3A service then, yes, I have completed it to gold. The only thing I will say is that I probably played it quite a while ago since HAR came out last year. It is possible that an update occurred after I played it that has broken it. Let me see if I can try to play it again, although I won't be able to do that until tonight.

 

I haven't played TSW since like february-march, actually. In my notes I have marked the 2519 for M3 and 516 for M7 as bugged.

 

Interesting to hear the positive comments here, may have to check out the route in the future. I remember the very lukewarm response to the route at release, are the signaling issues still present?

 

No I played this route every other day. I have completed all M3A services and I’m about halfway on the M7A services. Great route and to me the best passenger US route at the moment with Boston as a close second. I’m from NY so no way I can picked Boston over NY.

 

Interesting to hear your thoughts on all the routes mentioned, thanks. In addition to Harlem, in the last week I've been playing Boston again for the first time since the TOD 4 update, and bought the Acela too and has become one of my favourites in TSW overall too. I also will play Peninsula Corridor again after literally years as in the earlier days of TSW it was one of my favourite all-time routes thanks to its decent length, busy amount of services, plethora of DLC etc so look forward to that once again.

That's great to hear, I particularly like the M3A services too; out of interest, how many of the M7A services have you both completed? One other question, does anyone know how realistic the M3A sounds are in TSW, as it sounds a bit similar to the sound of those used for the 1972 Stock and vice versa.

Highly recommended if you like busy commuter routes and a super busy main terminus. I play on Series X and have yet to encounter any gameplay issues.

 

the scenery north of 125st into the Bronx ,white plains is good. On the other hand that’s stretch from Harlem 125st until to hit the tunnels looks nothing like it. The NY skyline is probably the worst part of this DLC. But other than that the timetable for than makes up for it.

 

Well I was finally able to attempt the 2519 and can confirm that it works but ONLY if you spawn in on foot. I recommend preparing the train so that you can leave the platform immediately when the service becomes active at 0840. Actually quite an interesting service with plenty of inbound AI traffic as well as near-constant ATC checks as you follow both a local train AND another that crosses over to take the platform at Crestwood. These complicating factors are probably why the service doesn't work when selected from the timetable, because the game seems to have problems with those Crestwood ECS moves. Hopefully you are able to successfully complete this one!

 

I remember that’s exactly what I had to do to complete the service. Hopefully we can get the M8 in the future to double the services

 

Just checked and I have completed 50 M7A services. This is one of my go-to routes, although I prefer the M3A over the M7A. However, I'm sure when Antelope Valley hits, Harlem will be relegated to the dustbin.

 

DTG did the best they could with the M3A sounds because in real life, the M3As are almost silent. They most likely used the 1972 stock propulsion sounds because both trains use DC camshafts. The brake release sounds and the door closing bell chimes are spot on, thankfully.