High Floor Entrance Dostos

Discussion in 'TSW General Discussion' started by Myron, Feb 15, 2024.

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  2. no

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  1. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    I feel like we really need those. After someone once asked DTG, their, honestly stupid answer was that it rather makes no sense as they're not a controlled unit (such as cab car) and it wouldn't be worth it (I think I saw that somewhere. if that's wrong, sorry). I'd say it's very much worth it. it's perhaps already a bit late as we have so many routes where they would fit in perfectly already and DTG would probably not implement them into older routes, if they ever made them at some point.
    It's annoying always seeing something IRL when it's not in the game that aims for variety and realism.
     
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  2. GTAGamer245

    GTAGamer245 Well-Known Member

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    High floor dostos are definitely needed, they would be perfect for Hamburg Lubeck and the RE1/RE4 layers on NRW routes
     
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  3. HØD164

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    they should bring them to TSW since on a lot of routes (including south east bavaria), there are High floor entrance dostos. They have developed them for TSC too so why not TSW? Also, if they want to add "the normal" IC2 Variant from the DB with the 146.2, what will they do? still use the low floor dostos even though the DB only uses High floor Entrance Dostos?
     
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  4. Omnicitywife

    Omnicitywife Well-Known Member

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    No but what would be perfect for HHL (and all routes for that matter) is a Br112 that works.
    Whatever we have now is offensively bad.
     
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    -_-LivvuAurora-_- Well-Known Member

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    I mean yeah, I literally see them on tons of Images on Google compared to the low floor entry.
    Not just that, It just doesn't make sense that they never implemented this early on.
    Details like that make alot of difference:)
     
  6. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    For me useless! This kind of difference brings nothing special/extra to the game!
     
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  7. CK95

    CK95 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, it’s only putting the correct rolling stock in the correct places.

    Useless.
     
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  8. grob-e

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    Well, do we have München - Simbach/Inn-Wels in game? Stuttgart - Tübingen? Karlsruhe - Konstanz? That would be the correct places for high-level Dostos...You're absolutely right...useless...
     
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  9. Callum B.

    Callum B. Well-Known Member

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    I think DTG should NOT add new trains which fit onto existing routes to the game; that would simply make the game worse. Thank you for making this poll so that we can discuss this controversial topic.
     
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  10. rennekton#1349

    rennekton#1349 Well-Known Member

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    how would it make it worse? Unless you're just taking an anti position just cause you want to
     
  11. grob-e

    grob-e Well-Known Member

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    Ok, trying to clear this up...
    the "SüdOstBayernbahn", a subsidiary of DB, located in Mühldorf, drives the route Freilassing-Mühldorf (and on the route München-Mühldorf-Simbach/Inn)

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    not on the route Rosenheim-Salzburg in full length. It is correct, that it drives with high-level dostos on München-Mühldorf-Simbach(Inn). The route Mühldorf-Freilassing(-Salzburg) that is also driven by the SOB is not electrified. So, on this route, there drive...

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    BR 628. Neither high-level or low-level dostos.

    The route Rosenheim-Freilassing-Traunstein-Salzburg (greyed-out in the first picture) was driven by DB Regio back then. And they used BR 111 with low-level Dostos...so, what is the problem? Using the right rolling stock on the right route?
     
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  12. Omnicitywife

    Omnicitywife Well-Known Member

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    Sarcasm my friend...

    There is some truth to it though... It's resources that could be allocated to anything else.
     
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  13. meMC83

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    I’d welcome them, certainly. Why not? They’ll probably be needed eventually.
     
  14. Fitz

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    They're needed already. There are some older routes with low level.that should have high level stock.

    From what I have seen all control cars have low level doors regardless.
     
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  15. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    yeah thats probably why DTG won't make them. because the middle cars don't matter to them, only the control cars do. and thats why we never faced high level Dosto cars
     
  16. Matin_TSP

    Matin_TSP Well-Known Member

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    No, not "some" routes. Only one: Hamburg-Lübeck. Other than that the Dostos are correct on every other route.
     
  17. jhs#1408

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    whatever another german coach car is welcoming for me at least
     
  18. Callum B.

    Callum B. Well-Known Member

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    They should be high level on HRR as well, but there they are layered from MSB (which does have low level DoStos).
     
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    Yeah, it just looks very out of place when it's the same dosto throughout several routes, high-level entry dostos would actually make me go "Oh! That's different!" And I'd actually remember it for once. :)
     
  20. animatiker

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    RSN didn't have any Dostos in reality apart from the RB56 with 143+1 cab car. Until Abellio with the Flirt took over the route, DB was using 143+n-Wagen for the RB91 & RE16 services.
    But as NRW never had any low entry Dostos, if they had ran on RSN it would have been the high level ones. low level Dostos just feel terribly wrong in NRW, also on SKA/HRR/RRO layers.
    Nowadays the IC2 runs on RSN with high level Dostos.
     
  21. driverwoods#1787

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    Needed because in real life the low level Doppelstockwagen will need a ramp from the staff to be boarded from 76cm platforms the High entry ones have built in Steps
     
  22. animatiker

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    The ramp is just for wheelchairs though. And normally just the cab car has one, which is the only car with barrier free boarding within a high level Dosto train.
     
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    Aren't they bigger problems to talk about with the recently announced Salzburg route ?? Nobody talked about those
    ultra small branch lines that get ignored even if we have all the stock for it.
     
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  25. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    So the results are pretty clear...
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    out of 58 people who already voted, 52 want to see some high floor entrance Dostos, which is pretty good. Now I believe we should make it clear to DTG aswell, shouldn't we? :D
     
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  26. Callum B.

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    hmmm is more train in train game equal more good? shocking results
     
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    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    You can have 1000 votes but only vote that will be bring the results is the DTG vote!
     
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    Myron Well-Known Member

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    very shocking indeed. I was just making sure people actually care about a subvariant of a certain passenger rail car which is somehow vital for the railway as it has a different entrance height.
     
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    For me the IC steuerwagen will be more important than the Dosto with high entrance.....
     
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  30. Myron

    Myron Well-Known Member

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    yeah I hope so too
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    good thing it is in "mod" development I guess (by Folezz)
     
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  31. waltern#2574

    waltern#2574 Member

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    I'm waiting for a set of BR120 and IC Steuerwagen, as well as old IC wagons with doors closed with a handle.
     
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  32. AtherianKing

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    I would say sure why not, anyone who doesn’t like certain similarities when it comes to a train sim collection is quite crazy.
     

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