Cheers, so is there any difference from the HST and class 43 loco? Or is it just that the HST is for pulling MK3 coaches?
a HST set is a class 43 loco at each end of a rake of coaches For a while the whole set together was known as a class 253, 254 or 255 depending on the set makeup but because the engines can be swapped out 43 is generally used The 43s at each end both work at the same time
Amazing what you find on GOOGLE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_British_Rail_modern_traction_locomotive_classes But then it is so much easier to ask on a Forum rather than doing research for yourself
Which is what google is. Ask google is still using somebody else's request system. Just cuts out a person giving a complete answer when they can get paid to give you thousands of answers which are possibly relevant. At least asking here we can "translate" as required depending on the comprehension level of the person asking
I like train sim, and I'm getting to grips with it, I appreciate all the help I've been getting so far. I would have thought the fact that I've been posting so many questions and suggestions shows that I like it here and trust accurate information or at least well educated guesses from the people who know best. Not everything is found out via Google and it's good to be part of the community.
Not quite agreeing with this... google is a skill like any other and with patience and practice you CAN find out almost everything via their platform... I mean if you can look up how to artificially inseminate a giraffe and actually get videos of it I would say that's close to "everything", right?
So basically "Don't work out something for your self when you can get somebody else to use Google and do it for you" Is that what they are teaching people these days? No wonder the people in Universitys are Numptys
Damned lockdown... Hope you're able to get your happy pills prescription soon Peter.. Stay strong fella.
There was a film a number of years back called Argo - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1024648/ The tag line in the film applies to you.
It's been proven that the human brain is changing to be able to hold LESS information due to the google revolution. We don't need to retain information when it's easily accessible...
If we don't need to hold the information because it is easily accessible what is to stop people doing that instead of asking someone else to do it for them.?
Enough now, things asked on the forum are usually quite specific, specific beyond Google's capabilities.
A lot of questions on this forum are very specific and you would not find the answers on Google. For this question I used Google to get my reply in post #6 I don't know if you got to look at it but it shows a picture of most of the Diesels and Electrics that have run and are still running on UK's Railways and there are links to similar pages to DMU's and EMU's And Class 43 - there was an earlier Class 43 which was a Warship loco similar to the Class 42 in the Western Hydraulics pack. Peter
I have yet to find a question, properly phrased, which cannot be answered by google As an example if you search the top answer is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_43_(HST)
I didn't know the high speed train was a class 43 before I was told in here. When looking on Google, all I got was general information about all sorts of trains that go fast or at a high speed
What misanthropes like Peter fail to understand, is that sometimes, people new to the forum would prefer to ask their questions here because it gives them an opportunity to speak to other forum members and enables them to make friends here, and not feel like the new guy who knows no one.
What children like Pookeyhead fails to understand is stupid questions irritate people. And like a child he thinks if he makes fun of other people some will like him for it. This thread is virtually dead but he thinks if he insults someone he can get a bit more mileage out of it
Certain people. You don't speak for everyone Peter. Just one person.... not people. You give it.. but you can't take it can you snowflake Muah!... love you really.
That is the difference between kiddyland (here) and UKTS . You don't get idiots like you on UKTS - it has Moderators which this place does not
Ah I see.. Interesting. Not really holding less though... as if it lessens our brain's capacity or anything, but more about how we process memory if we feel we can easily access it again. Nothing new there: Ease of access to information, and more importantly, taking it for granted has always done that. You made it sound as if it was actually making people stupid, which of course it is not. It's not the same as spell checkers on software in schools meaning kids can't spell as well as they used to in previous years (meaning it prevents them from learning as it's easier to just let the software check things for you), but more because if you feel something is stored, safe, and easily retrievable when you need it, you are less inclined to commit it to memory. Few people these days remember their friends' phone numbers but it doesn't mean they're innumerate. Not necessarily disagreeing with you though.. as an educator for two decades, I can promise you the internet has a lot to answer for.
Underlying intelligence may not be changing but the application of it is. Whether that ends up with idiocracy is another matter
Can we draw a line in the sand please guys??? At the end of the day, anyone can post a question and, as a community anyone can answer that question but you aren't compelled to answer... If you don't like it, skip it & move on to the next post to read... Not trying to alienate anyone or point fingers, just saying as I see it... Eric
To drag this thread back to something resembling the topic IIRC the 125s were operated as fixed formation trains and originally classed as DMUs reflecting this their TOPS classifications being 253 and 254 (distinguishing between Western and Eastern Region trains) with the prototype Class 252. The individual vehicles got their own numbers of course with those on the power cars starting with 43. Of course the vehicles can be and were swapped around so the set numbers, which were carried on the power cars, soon became irrelevant- if a power car was swapped out a set bore different numbers at each end. BR soon gave up on the set numbers and simply made the power cars Class 43 using the individual numbers they already carried. Class 43 had already been used as to classify the NBL built Warship Diesel-hydraulics but they had been withdrawn long since and I don't think ever carried their TOPS numbers. Even so to this day when I see Class 43 mentioned I have to remind myself it's probably in reference to the HST.
Let's not forget that these forums are here for people to ask questions, no matter how small they may be. And perhaps some of the answers can be found on google, but usually the community enjoy the opportunity to help one another. Let's dial back the tone in here a bit, no reason to be winding one another up.
