Yes. It was intentional and I flagged that by saying the following; But as you make the point yes, it’s fair to assume that the vast majority of people that could afford a Gen8 console could afford a Gen9 one too. There will be some poor souls for whom that isn’t the case, but that will likely be a tiny fraction of the player base. If they can’t afford a Gen9 console then it’s fair to extrapolate from that that regularly buying DLC at £30 a go would be a stretch too far also. Regarding kids who are relying on their parents, well, they’re kids. As I’ve said in another post, I was absolutely desperate as a young teenager for my Dad to upgrade his work PC so I could play Microprose GP but it never happened. Them’s the breaks of being a child, and it taught me a valuable lesson. re Windows 11, I upgraded to it as a last resort to try and stop crashes in MSFS. Thankfully it worked a treat which probably indicates something was not right with my Windows 10 installation, but initially I was less than impressed with the new interface. I’m completely used to it now and other than the start menu layout, I don’t miss Windows 10 one bit.
Heh. Maybe when they sort out issues like Baldur's Gate 3's Vulkan version running about 8% slower than in DX11, we can all look into ditching Windows...
I'm not so sure. Many folks I know got their Gen8 consoles with a one off cash windfall, be it an elderly relative dying, their first university scholarship payment, etc. Same for me. Most of those same people in my social circle nowadays are pretty strapped for cash with how much food and utility bills have gone up. In the case of at least two of them, I have been that one off cash payment, gifting them a Series S to be able to keep gaming with me when their XBox One gave up the ghost.
That’s very noble of you. I’d make the point again though, if they’re strapped for cash and can’t afford to trade their Gen8 against a secondhand Gen9 and pay the difference (roughly £250 in the UK) then they surely don’t have the disposable income to be buying DLC every month either? Or is it a choice they’re making?
Surely with TSW3 its just a case of better optimisation? Is it because this engine has to run on older consoles that makes it performant heavy? On my PC I cant get 60 fps solid and I have a high end PC. ON Series x I get a stable 60fps but some of the pop in is fairly stark. I would imagine on PS4 it would be even less performant. I think theres ways you could upgrade, selling off your older console or trading in is one way, thats how I got my series x, I traded in both Ps4 and Xbox One S.
Most people I know have mobile phones, on contract for two years. New phones are generally more expensive than the price of a Gen 9 console. So, surely Microsoft and Sony could do what phone companies do and sell consoles over a two year contact. You’d get a Gen 9 console for about a fiver a week over two years and probably get, as mentioned previously, about 7 years use out of it. I don’t think that’s too bad a deal if people want to stay up to date with latest technology ? I’m sorry if this sounds elitist but we have to move forward with technology and if you spend a lot of time playing on consoles you need to be up to date to get the best of things. This way you will. Just need Microsoft and Sony to catch onto this idea now lol
But the key thing is why would you upgrade to gen 9 for TSW? Maybe today is the day they show us why but IMO TSW3 is not a Gen 9 console seller.
I think the argument is not “what it is “ but “what it could be” ? As you say, maybe today will give us a glimpse of that
Let me be the first to ask this question: if they drop support for Gen8, will the game play better on my XBox Series X? Right now, I have a lot of stuttering, bad audio, flickering textures giving me a headache (which is why I tend to use outside camera placed on top of the loco, instead of cab camera), and more. Will all these be fixed if they drop support for Gen8?
I’m no expert but presumably when they write the code for games they are limited to the maximum capability of the machines that will play them on. So, you’re getting a game on x box series x that is limited to the power of a Xbox one. If they could write code just for Gen 9 the assumption is you’d get a better quality game? I may be wrong, but it would make sense, to me at least.
People keep bringing up this conversation as if DTG haven’t stated a million times before gen 8 is staying! Think of something else to talk about for crying out loud! Boring!
Well clearly a large portion of the community isn't happy with that answer. It's going to keep coming up until it eventually happens.
You are wrong, in a way, but yes, I can see how that would make sense if you don't know the ins and outs, and has a kernel of truth to it. They maintain two separate branches of the game. All the common stuff shared between them is the same, but a lot of that is scalable. Think, stuff like the version of the textures used in the 8th gen game, they're just the "low" version from PC while the gen9 consoles get the "high" PC versions. As long as the game scales to lower end PCs it can be stripped back for the 8th gen consoles, hence how gen8 TSW3 is "TSW3 with bits cut out" As to the kernel of truth, when building a game soley for the current gen hardware from scratch, a developer has a few options that are not available on the older gen hardware which they can implement. Sometimes these can be optional, and toggled for different releases of the software on different platforms, hence how XBox Smart Delivery will determine automatically the correct build of the same game to download based on which XBox hardware you have. Sometimes though, they can be fundamental building blocks you predicate the game on requiring, thus either ruling out older hardware, or ruling out making use of them. Look at say, the PC port of Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart. It makes use of modern SSDs in a way that is impossible on older HDDs. Digital Foundry tested it with a 7200RPM drive and a 5400RPM drive, the 7200RPM drive, the game ended up hanging when traversing portals, the 5400RPM drive fared even worse, as the ground never even loads in at the beginning of the first level and you fall infinitely into the void.
That’s a much better explanation than my attempt, thank you Forgive me for asking, as I said I’m no expert. Would the Xbox series x run better if DTG were only building for Gen 9 ? I ask, as I’m a x box series x owner myself and I am a little disappointed at times with the performance of TSW.
Yes! It would as there would be more resources available for the gen9 console versions but the majority of the players is still on gen 8 so does resources are needed.
Users tell M$ that they like the start menu. M$ keeps changing it and users keep finding ways to get it back.
I hated the windows 11 start menu from the beginning (really liked Windows 10) and I’m annoyed at having to pay to get back what I had, but at least Start 11 was cheap and works totally seamlessly and their support was very good when I had a problem.
