I Don’t Like This Push For More ‘gameplay’.

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  1. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

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    I never understand people that think the price of a simulator is €50. For that price you can get a video game, not a simulator. If you buy a video game with "simulator" in the title and expect it to be a true simulator your expectations were too high to begin with.
     
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  2. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    People see the world simulator and think "it will be 100% true to life" for some reason.
     
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  3. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    Well when a company advertises their product to be "a highly immersive rail simulation featuring authentic routes and trains from around the world", it's not surprising that there are customers that are expecting to get what the company advertises. If the company can't deliver that, then they shouldn't be advertising the product as such.
     
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  4. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    Define "authenticity."
     
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    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    Authentic means something that is real so if DTG is advertising the product as authentic simulator, that means the product is a recreation of something from reality be it the modeling of a train, the sounds of a train along with the route and environment of a route

    I mean of course this game isn't an authentic simulator with 100% accuracy which isn't a bad thing but why advertise a product to be something that it isn't or can't. I find it equally ironic that when people call out DTG for not doing what they advertise, some try to downplay or question why a person is questioning a company for not delivering what they advertise.

    Imagine if a person went to buy a ham sandwich and the sandwich is advertised as having, ham, cheese, tomatoes, lettuce and mayonnaise but when the customer gets the product, all they get is just bread. It would be normal to call out the person who gave them the food for not doing what is advertised.

    I think if the advertising of the game was different, people’s expectations would be different but since DTG advertise the way they do, the reaction by some isn't surprising. Whilst there are those that don't care, may not mind, or have lower expectations, there are others that expect to get what is advertised.
     
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  6. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    It is accurate though. Granted not 100% but they have limitations. No game would ever be that authentic no matter how hard you try.
     
  7. jhs#1408

    jhs#1408 Active Member

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    advertisement is just... advertisement anyway, i think.

    question mark on ticket checking for me too, but i think these kind of trial is needed.
     
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  8. Princess Entrapta

    Princess Entrapta Well-Known Member

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    Like, unless you have compatibility for a full haptic bodysuit and smell-o-vision, can your game be said to be truly "authentic"?
     
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  9. jack#9468

    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    I'm here to play a game, don't want the smells of real life in there too :D
     
  10. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    LIRR is not accurate to the real world in terms of sounds, environment and certainly the timetable. Harlem line is also not accurate in terms of environment in many areas. The Manhattan skyline in particular is terrible. Bakerloo line is another. NY-Trenton is another. You can see the Manhattan skyline from Secaucus Junction but is nowhere to be seen in game. Penn Station isn't accurate to real life. The sounds of the DB BR 422 are inaccurate. I can go on but the point stands. Many routes aren't accurate to the real life counterparts and that isn't a bad thing but then DTG shouldn't advertise their products as authentic.
     
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    jack#9468 Well-Known Member

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    Then instead of posting on a forum how real it isn't, just don't play it?

    Otherwise, you are falling into their so-called trap.
     
  12. owenroser19

    owenroser19 Well-Known Member

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    Not playing it isn’t the point, the point is the game is being sold as something it isn’t. That’s a fundamental issue it’s not a personal opinion.
     
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  13. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    The typical if you don't like it, don't play it or don't buy it response.

    In fairness I do think the lirr is the worse route in the game and is a route I haven't played it for ages.

    If you read my posts on this thread, I have said that yes DTG doesn't deliver what is advertised but I also said that doesn't make it a bad game. I do enjoy playing alot of the routes I do have and just because I don’t have to play it doesn't make the company immune to criticism because if nobody criticized the product in a constructive manner, then how can the product become better if they think everything is perfect.

    The game is being sold as something is not. That isn't a personal opinion but a fact and I and others can call them out on that and not be shouted down because you may not agree with it
     
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  14. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    completely agree it really annoys me that accuracy and realism is often thrown to the side and all time is spent on some dumb gimmick that no one asked for
     
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    Plenty have people have wanted, and asked for a railfan or guard feature to be implemented. Just because you think it's dumb, doesn't mean everyone agrees with you.
     
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    In the case of DTG's releases in the past year, less is more. (less route, more cost :D)
     
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  17. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    I never said that a guard mode was dumb as thats technically still simulation so I don't know why you are trying to put words in my mouth
     
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    Good job they don't, I doubt I'd even fit in a gimp suit
     
  19. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

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    Maybe define better with what you mean with "gameplay". You want simulation but what does simulation mean to you?

    When I saw the title Train Sim World I thought it would simulate me being a train but they added gameplay for a train driver. Very misleading title if you ask me. It should have been called "Train Driver Sim World" >sarcasm<
     
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  22. sam#2862

    sam#2862 Well-Known Member

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    when i say gameplay that no one asked for I mean making the game unrealistic to make it "more fun" like at Etches Park depot where they made the switches manual and gave it a 90mph speed limit
     
  23. antwerpcentral

    antwerpcentral Well-Known Member

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    Oh I was under impression you were complaining about user input. If no one asked it and it's not fun it's indeed stupid to add. I already don't like manual switches
     
  24. max#2873

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    TSW6 will be just collectible arcade loco runs considering current trend...
     

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