Ideas For New Japanese Trains

Discussion in 'Loco Suggestions & Proposals' started by LativaBoy, Feb 1, 2020.

  1. LativaBoy

    LativaBoy Active Member

    Mar 17, 2018
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    this is just a list of Japanese trains for a more diverse selection with the current Japanese routes

    Wakayama-Sakurai Line

    201 Series[​IMG]

    221 Series

    Hidaka Main Line
    KiHa 40 Series

    Story of the Forest Line
    KiHa 31

    KiHa 52
  2. NEC Railfan

    NEC Railfan Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 2020
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    As someone said earlier, JR is extremely strict about licensing outside of Japan. They are afraid that anything, such as a recreation of a train crash, such as the Amagasaki or similar, could harm their PR, and image.
  3. dcr raptor

    dcr raptor Member

    Feb 22, 2021
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    Taking a look at the Japanese wikipedia page on rail incidents in Japan, there seems to be an average of 12 incidents a year across all operators. This list includes derailments and other incidents causing significant damage to the train. Suicides are not included in the list.
    At the very least, JR group companies are known to put their drivers under a lot of pressure to be punctual, which is seen as being part of the cause of the derailments. While it may be difficult to get the group as a whole, some of the 7 companies that make up the JR group may be a bit easier to convince to provide licencing than others.
    Pehaps a better angle would be to get licencing agreements with some 3rd sector companies, like Seibu, Keio, Keisei, Keikyu, Toei, Tokyu, Tobu, Meitetsu, Hankyu, Hanshin, e.t.c.
    If some of these 3rd sector companies are willing to provide licencing, maybe it would soften JRs stance on the matter.
    Out of these companies, Seibu have appeared in multiple anime, and Keikyu, Toei and Keisei all had their own train simulator game on the PS2 (now worth around £120).
    For 3rd sector routes, I would suggest the following:
    Seibu Ikebukuro Line: Ikebukuro - Hanno
    Keisei Sky Access Line: Keisei Ueno & Oshiage - Narita Airport
    Enoden: Fujisawa - Kamakura
    Oigawa Railway: Kanaya - Ikawa
    Noto Railway Nanao Line: Nanao - Anamizu
    Toei Isesaki Line: Asakusa - Kasukabe
    Keio Line: Shinjuku - Keio Hachioji
    Tsukuba Express: Akihabara - Tsukuba
    Nose Electric Railway: Kawanashinoseguchi - Nisseichuo & Myoken-Guchi
    Fujikyu Railway: Otsuki - Kawaguchiko (Features JR trains, but these aren't a requirement)
    Izukyu Railway: Atami - Izukyu Shimoda (Features JR trains, but these could be unbranded as the branding isn't that prominent on most trains that run here)
    Kashima Rinkai Railway: Mito - Kamisu (Passenger trains only go as far as Kashima, but the line continues to Kamisu Freight Terminal. The containers carried by the freight trains would usually require JRF licencing, but they could just be left unbranded.)

    Alternatively, the routes could be done in the JNR era (pre-1987) instead, as licencing would probably fall under similar circumstances to British Rail. (Which is possibly how they got around any licencing issues in Rail Wars)
    For JNR era routes, I would suggest the following:
    JNR era Tokaido Main Line & Tokaido Shinkansen: Tokyo/Odawara - Shizuoka (111 Series, 113 Series, 153 Series, 165 Series, EF60-0 Series, EF60-500 Series, 0 Series Shinkansen + AI ONLY 101 Series (Only if Tokyo included)) Mainline and Shinkansen routes run relatively closely between Odawara and Shizuoka. This is the route that the famous picture of the 0 series in front of Mt. Fuji was taken on.
    JNR era Kobe Line & Tokaido Shinkansen: Kyoto - Osaka (80-0 Series, 80-300 Series, EF60-0 Series, EF60-500 Series, 0 Series Shinkansen + AI ONLY 101 Series) The southern section of the original shinkansen route. Both the mainline and the Shinkansen run side by side between the 2 cities. The Hankyu railway also follows the route, albeit at a slight distance, but it's still close enough that the vast majority of the Hankyu Kyoto line would need to be modelled. Could also include heritage JGR steam locomotives and heritage Hankyu Railway rolling stock.
    JNR era Yamanote Line (101, 103, 201, and 205 Series playable. AI ONLY 0 Series Shinkansen, 111 Series, and/or 113 Series trains are seen at some stations) Rolling stock seen around the Yamanote line was relatively uniform during this era, making it one of the easier periods to model this railway in.
    Iwaizumi Line: Moichi - Iwaizumi (KiHa 52) Note: The KiHa 52 was used on the line between 1983 and 2007. While it did have a JR colour scheme, it also operated in the original JNR livery, which never featured any branding. Prior to the KiHa 52s, there was another type of diesel railcar that operated on this line along with a freight service. Information on this is scarce, although it was likely that the freight trains were steam hauled.

    I'll expand on some of these ideas in the route suggestions, but you can see just how much is possible for Japanese routes, even when you cannot use JR stuff.

    One last thing to mention is that anime companies tend to make minor alterations to brand names to make something that's recognisable while avoiding the licencing issues. Such as JR -> UR, KEIO -> OKEI, Mc Donalds -> Mg Ronalds e.t.c. Perhaps this could be done to provide off-brand liveries that can easily be photoshopped into the real one.

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