Clinchfield could easily use some fixes, improved scenery, and more livery variety (Especially for the Boxcars and SD40) The line could extend to the same endpoint as the TSC version, but it doesn't offer much more in terms of gameplay aside from the inchange with the Norfolk and Western.
I think Matt previously ruled out extending Clinchfield any further as the interesting sections including the branches were already included. Hopefully his spare time work on the route will come to fruition at some point.
Really wish Rivet or someone would make the St Ives Branch line in WCL look realistic. It been out a long time and the whole route has been criticised that it needs properly redoing! It is the worst route designed in the game and needs correction in so many places!
Including that erroneous 20 MPH for the foot crossing on the Up at Carbis Bay which fails to revert to 30 MPH immediately after. Several direct pings to Jasper_Rivet (oops) have failed to spawn any response or fix to the matter. There’s also the station sign on the Up platform at Truro by the footbridge entirely in lower case. Ideally a remastered WCL would also back port the revised Class 150 sound and physics from the CCN.
WCL is by far the most disappointing uk route in game and requires so many fixes just to bring it close to respectable. 'IF' Rivet were to ever rework this route, I think it would be wise to throw in an extension to Falmouth as this is a glaring omission as it currently stands. Please please please Rivet, make this route all that it could/should be.
l don't think Rivet seem to care and also can’t be bothered! There has been a lot of justified criticism about their work that if they were bothered they would have corrected it by now!
CN Oakville Subdivision: feels so empty a GO MP36PH, F40PH or an F59PHR for GO services (part of AI Traffic) Layered from other routes (still drivable) CN ES44AC, CN C40 8W, CN SD70ACE NEW: GP9 (chop nose variants), CN SD60M, CN SD75i, CN SD40-2W, Also the CN GP9RM needs the CN slug cars and more wagons. It would really help if the rolling Stock in the route was compatible with livery designer. After all if the CN Oakville Subdivision is priced at £29.99 because of the remaster, then I wouldnt mind, fair enough.
Still holding out for Clinchfield myself. Maybe with Liam finished on GWE, Matt can shanghai him into helping out?
I would also nominate one of those two, both really deserve it. Ruhr-Sieg Nord lends itself to some very interesting gameplay, the route offers a lot of variety in regards of surroundings and driving. Especially for all the freight enthusiasts out there! With some souped-up lighting and graphics, and a well-made timetable, it could become even more of a classic than it already is! And Main-Spessart is an underrated little route in my opinion. It's a good route for some relaxed 30 min or 50 min runs to cool down after work... Nothing too special and it suffers a little from a bland timetable. A remaster could push this one up a lot! Of all the routes I'm doing, Main-Spessart in it's current state feels the most like first-person Transport Fever to me. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing
For MSB, if they fix the UE4 landscape missing textures being visible in the distance... even with that I'd be happy. The reason why I call it digital rot, is that as the game went on and got upgraded, including its render distance. Things that weren't supposed to be visible, now are visible.
If just the one remaster, then obviously it has to be London Commuter (BML)! Despite being from TSW 2, it amazes me how great the original route and timetable still is to this day. Now imagine it remastered with TOD 4 and the likes of the Class 700/1, Class 455 and even the 377/2 for more variety and proper timetable - would be totally amazing in my opinion! All photos taken by myself Class 700/1 Class 455 Class 377/2
Yes… Rework and fix all the faults. Bring over the reworked 150 physics and sounds. Back date the 153 and include that. Add the Falmouth line branch and maybe extend eastwards to Par. I might even consider handing over money for that!
I’d like to see the Arosa Line get some love, just imagine that scenery with the new high texture mountains as opposed to those blobs of green jelly everywhere, well white jelly in winter. The other one I’d like to see is London Commuter get a remaster.
My brain still having a hard time reconciling my concepts of "older" just like, "What do you mean, "older route"? that was as recent as Rush Hour!"
Yes, for some reason my brain registers the old/new boundary as Rush Hour too. Sort of like I divide history into "recent" (my lifetime) and "ancient" (everything up to the day before I was born)
You have the 2010s (fifty years ago), the 1990s (10 years ago) the 1980s (Also 10 years ago) the time all your parents' favourite bands and a bunch of Bond films come from, World War 2, black and white, and then stuff you see in museums.
In my opinion there are certain criteria that define an older route - London Commuter is definitely one of those specifically. It's the only one of the original TSW 2 Rush Hour trilogy that has never been touched - unlike Boston Commuter and Dresden-Riesa. Thus, while London Commuter's timetable still outperforms every other route in TSW history in terms of long-term gameplay, service variety and so on - quite an impressive feat, but kind of sad that nothing all these years later has ever really eclipsed it (well maybe SEHS perhaps for UK content) - but it now looks very, very outdated and certainly needs a TOD 4 upgrade. Plus, it's super frustrating the Class 700 already exists in TSW, yet nothing at all for London Commuter - very bizarre and shows a major lack of consistency; plus, missing out on the obvious thing that a large portion of their playerbase actually want! One final thing I'll mention. While there are a lot less variety of trains, London Commuter had a full timetable on Gen 9 while Gen 8 still had a very large basic timetable. Just saying...
Isn't the Class 700 issue a deliberate conscious choice not to exacerbate memory issues, and something they might look into again once they get a handle on memory contraints, if they feel they have the necessary memory savings. I might be misremembering, but I'm sure I heard something along those lines at some point.
Going wildly OT now but the wife occasionally puts Greatest Hits Radio (more like Greatest Same Old Adverts Radio) on over lunchtime. When they do the Golden Year after 1200 and it's something like 1994 or 1995, I scoff and say that's not that old. Then comes the realisation that's actually over 30 years ago!
Slightly more on topic: I got the same feeling when people here talking about Linke Rheinstrecke as a backdated or even vintage route... Hey, I remember these times so well! It's just been... oh my gosh... 27 years ago Raises the question? What age gap qualifies a route as being backdated? Is Bremen-Oldenburg a backdated route because it's set in 2008? Or Salzburg-Rosenheim (2013)?
I would say it's backdated if they choose a period with rolling stock that doesn't operate there anymore and/or if there have been significant changes to the route. GWE therefore also qualifies, because it is set before the electrification. If it is only a few years old, and route and trains are mostly the same, I wouldn't qualify it as backdated.
Probably plays a part as well. I can imagine how painful it probably was with what the route already has, never mind the extra Thameslink services.
Northern Trans-Pennine or Tees Valley Line, followed by WCL. I’m actually surprising myself saying this as a few weeks ago WCL would’ve been my first choice. The reasons behind NTP and TVL is simple, I love driving the Class 101. I’ve been playing a lot of WCMLOS recently and the Class 101 is all I use, even the Class 87 doesn’t get a look in I just find the Class 101 to be one of the most engaging drives in the game, with its gear set that makes you constantly alert to upcoming speed restrictions and gradient changes. None of that easy automatic accelerate brake nonsense. That’s not to say I don’t like or enjoy modern, I just think since I’ve been playing around with the 101 more it’s really opened my eyes to what makes the best driving experience for me.
Yeah the 101 is good. A bit confusing and challenging to get your head around at first, but once you do it's one of the most fun, if a bit demanding, trains to drive in the game
Remaster (updated lighting, track textures, signals): Ruhr-Sieg Nord for sure. Love that route but especially the track textures could really be updated to post-DRA standards. Remake (track/scenery rework and maybe an extension): Either Hauptstrecke Rhein-Ruhr (extended either towards Köln or Dortmund) or perhaps Rhein-Ruhr Osten. I think RRO is a really interesting choice to remake and extend since other than Leipzig it is probably the most aged route in the game with the weird and sharp gradient changes of the track. Extending it to Bochum or Düsseldorf, and redoing the original track (big ask of course) would make it a truly stellar route I'm not super knowledgeable about the area so perhaps my end points werent the best, would be interested to hear others opinions.
100 % agree! RRO is *the* one route that deserves a remaster or even a remake. Having this route, but with LIDAR, ToD4, new water textures, proper vegetation and a new timetable would be awesome. Though for a modern timetable we'd need that FLIRT and IC2. I'd be perfectly happy with "only" a remaster
FLIRT and IC2 aren't out of the question, IMO. There is already a FLIRT in game, wearing SBB livery. An IC2 is essentially just a 146/Dosto combo in white paint (yes, details would have to be reworked) While the 147 is the loco most commonly associated with the IC2, it doesn't pull all of them..
The Community Need You as our German Liam for German Content Dortmund to Aachen Hbf with Desiro HC So HRR and SKA Can be merged together as Full Route You can’t drive from Wuppertal to Bochum, it’s going to Dortmund Hbf
Not exactly a remaster, but, finish East Coastway to Hastings and Ore with playable 171s between Ore and Eastbourne and AI to and from Ashford International. Also, the spelling of Polegate has been wrong on platform dot matrix boards since release.
Tharandter Rampe is a very underrated gem indeed. Honestly, I like the old-style lighting for this route, it kinda fits the "feel" of the area. Hard to describe, but I think it adds to the overall flair. In my opinion, of those two routes it's less a question of which one deserves a remaster, but rather which one needs a remaster... and this honour would probably fall to RSN But what really, REALLY could use a remaster is Tharandt's main player, the BR 612.
Yeah that's true. I kinda like that winding through these valleys and mountains + trees. Love that about the Kaiserslautern-side part of Ludwigsbahn, too. Guess it resembles a bit some of my home routes here in the "Thüringer Wald". Yep, the 612 truly would deserve that.
To be honest, i think both East Coastway and Tees Valley both need remasters since they're old routes. The remaster for Tees Valley will hopefully include the full line from Saltburn to Bishop Auckland via Darlington, and East Coastway needs a branch line to Hastings/Ore and Ashford International also make a branch line to Hove for the 313s and 377s. If so then the 171 will be playable
And thanks for pointing out that the Polegate spelling on the dot matrix displays are wrong. This shouldn't of been fixed ages ago
After having been to Shildon to visit Locomotion today, I'd very like the line from Darlington to Bishop Auckland to be added, although it would be out of scope for a hypothetical remaster anyway
Sand Patch Grade. I would be satisfied with a timetable update only. The update should include longer and that's why more realistic trains and some Norfolk Southern action. A CSX Gevo and GP40-2 would be nice too.
Same with me and one of my home routes, the Allgäubahn. We need more winding and challenging-to-drive routes like that... preferrably with GNT, so the 612 can show its merits
Oh and another thing I forgot: I'd like to see the old Arosa Route being leveled up to Bernina / Mittenwald level.
