In Cab Visual Deterioration (series X - Post Patch)

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  1. rabid

    rabid Well-Known Member

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    Ran London Commuter service after both the core and route update. Definitely getting less texture reloading ~ it’s still there from time to time but much less frequent for me. I figure they slipped out a partial fix to see if we would notice! ;) Or I’m going crazy and imagining it.
     
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  2. cjm#5741

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    I tried a service today ro see if the crashing was fixed and unfortunately I have to say I disagree with you. Texture issue is still very much there and at the same extent for me
     
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  3. Bryer

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    I'm close to stopping buying the DLC at the moment.

    This crucial fix is taking far too long in my opinion, especially considering they've ignored it during testing and released it anyway in the immersion and experience breaking state.

    I seriously hope the shuffle internally gets priorities back in the right direction which should be playability and stability ahead of profits.
     
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  4. nockwurst

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    When they say they’re working on it they mean for Christmas, 2022.
     
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  5. deeuu#6908

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    Yes, still the same, seems to be tied to speed for me, more 'refreshes' the faster you are going.
     
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  6. dreampage

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    It seems clear to me that this is tied to the game loading in the "chunks" of the environment as you move forward. Whenever a new "chunck" is loaded in, the textures are also reloaded for some reason. This is why the faster you go the more frequently you see this. Somehow the two processes have become tied to each other with the Rush Hour update.
     
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  7. deeuu#6908

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    Agreed, it appears to be reloading all the textures when it caches a new chunk of the game, rather than just the textures it needs, is this a specific issue to the console(s)?
     
  8. dreampage

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    It's a specific bug on Xbox currently, it's not present on PlayStation as far as I know. And definitely not on PC.
     
  9. Boris The Frog

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    I don't think that's the case because the glitching frequency on, say, LVG and Cathcart isn't that much different. The only common denominator with all routes is; the faster you go, the worse it gets.

    The other weird thing is: When the glitching does occur, why do some dials suffer with blurry textures whilst others remain largely unaffected?
     
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  10. Princess Entrapta

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    I'm still seeing the "pop" of the texture reloading, but after that they rapidly return to the full resolution, instead of staying low res permanently as they did before.
     
  11. Class158Perkinsguy

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    Hm textures seem to have IMPROVED but not fully. Oh well
     
  12. knutvarg88

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    Have the same isues on all routes ... DTG are just a litle unprofessional ...
     
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  13. ajwilson1889

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    Unprofessional is releasing the game in this state, but not fixing it in 2 months, that's a new level
     
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  14. DB628

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    DTG is worse quality
     
  15. Boris The Frog

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    For anyone who doesn't know, it was mentioned in the Cornwall showcase that on Tuesday there's something called a 'state of the game' stream which I can only assume is being done to assess recent events surrounding the console versions of TSW. It's probably just another one of those pointless "learn from our mistakes, working on it with no timelines or guarantees etc etc" chit-chat's designed to make us feel temporarily reassured for just long enough to splash out on the next DLC - and whilst I personally have no interest in what they have to say (as far as I'm concerned the words and excuses period has long since expired) I suppose it's there if anybody does want to go along and vent their frustrations about this or any other subject.

    I they start the stream off with another one of those powerpoint-esque presentations in order to try and justify why things have gone pear shaped then I just hope it's a little less pathetic than the last one. That slideshow thing outlining the increasing permutations of all routes across all platforms (to try and give a sense of the difficulty in getting every route on every platform correct) was diabolical.
     
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  16. anthonyruk

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    I can put up with most bugs but this one is game breaking. It's impossible to drive with the HUD off when you can't make out what the dials say. I was really looking forward to the BML route, the 1938 stock, the Cornwall route and the overall increase in passengers on the Xbox series consoles. I played BML for about an hour and gave up. It is so promising but the graphical issue alongside random crashes just makes it a poor experience. BML on classic TS runs better.
     
  17. Class158Perkinsguy

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    Your right buddy, its paethetic.
     
  18. dreampage

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    Should we make a Bingo Card for the live stream?

    - "We apologize but we know it's not enough"
    - "The game is not where we want it to be"
    - "We're hopeful that things will go more smoothly going forward"
    - "Everything is in testing"
    - "No timeline, BUT making good progress"
    - "We should've communicated more clearly"
    - "Roadmap this and that"
    - "We made progress on making progress"

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    I'm sorry to be so cynical but as George Carlin said, it's nothing more than being a disillusioned idealist. I still haven't lost hope though that the developers can turn things around still. Fingers crossed.
     
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  19. ajwilson1889

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    What kind of bingo is that? Everyone would be shouting full house 5 minutes into the stream!
     
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  20. bobbobberdd

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    Fix ist planned to released Tomorrow according to the Q&A Stream
     
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  21. BBIAJ

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    Texture glitch fix confirmed for tomorrow's patch in the stream just now.
     
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  22. Class158Perkinsguy

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    Oh thank god! It took them only 2 months
     
  23. Kobebeef

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    Yyaaaay :) one down couple more to go
     
  24. Bryer

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    Let's wait and see if it is actually fixed before rejoicing.
     
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  25. DB628

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    Like Destinations all blurred on UK trains
     
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  26. DB628

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    Did someone test if all is fixed?
     
  27. A Big Chungus

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    Playing now, hasn't happened yet.
    Not sure if it happened before, but going into a tunnel I've noticed the cab kinda glows bright white or blue as the game lighting changes?
     
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  28. Train Sim 9723

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    that’s a light baking issue I believe it’s with how tunnels work to block the light on the outside
     
  29. joulz75

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    From what I tested so far, it's better but the issue still occurs at times, for example in the acs 64, the ATC/ACSES device is still flickering, and on the tgv, the cab goes blurry just one second from time to time but it's not permanent as before. Well I hope there is much to come because it doesn't seem completely fixed.
     
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  30. DB628

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    This is a joke DTG, you know this issue since 2 months as well, and didn’t fixed this 0B1CDFDB-6D8F-44E6-A130-AD22491433FD.jpeg
     
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  31. A Big Chungus

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    Ah yes, it does still do it, class 09 on West Somerset Railway just had the cab textures degrade for around one second.
     
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    I create a video to upload soon that still shows flickering buttons all the time or that the graphics load again
     
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  33. Bob12212

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    I have found the same thing still. Text under the buttons, and also white highlights on switches.
     
  34. Bob12212

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    Still flickering texture on in cab text etc too. It's saved me £24.99 for tomorrow's release at least.
     
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  35. Princess Entrapta

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    TBH the only genuine fix for that kind of thing in any and all games is a raytraced global illumination system, which you want to build in from the outset when creating the game. May be industry standard by the time we get TSW3, whenever that may be.
     
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  36. Train Sim 9723

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    Just ran a Marseille to Avignon had the cab full glitch about 6-7 times through the run, I didn’t experience any outside Train blur and no TVM blur apart form when it was a full cab glitch, there was some flickers on the speed monitor though

    the Marseille tunnel also has quite a big tunnel light issue for a long part of it, the exterior train was a white blue couloir through that part

    Series X
     
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    Just ran GWR class 166. Whole cab keeps going blurred for few seconds at a time, just as before.

    Series X
     
  38. DB628

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    Here is my video that it still flickering and blurred always or the graphics load again.
    Looked at the right Display the Buttons DTG JD
     
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    I was really hopeful after last night's stream that we were going to have some good news today, but it's still the same for me too. Blurred destination boards on the trains (obvious example is GCC as seen above), the Access is still flickering on the ACS train on Boston. It's such a disappointment!

    DTG, may I kindly suggest that people who report the issues are asked to help test? (appreciate the complexities around how this would be done with consoles) I think it would then be easier to confirm if the issues were resolved. It would save the trouble and embarrassment of telling us all it's fixed, when it's really not. Again, who's testing this? Within less than an hour of the patch coming out, lots of reports are being sent back to say it's not fixed.

    I sent photos into the support desk 2 months ago about the blurred destination boards and heard nothing back on any progress. In my opinion, communication and visibility needs to be a lot better on what issues are being worked on and their status. I know there are many issues being worked on, but it's hard to know if you're acknowledging these specific issues and whether we can ever expect them to be fixed.
     
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  40. Bryer

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    I've been very critical of Dovetail Games the last 8 weeks. The issues have gone away for me on Series X on SEHS. Didn't have time to test any other routes, but there was no pop in or flickering on the Class 395.

    What consoles are you guys using?
     
  41. Bryer

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    What route you running it on?
     
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    Series S. Seems the burred speed display is better for me on SEHS, but the texture flickering/refreshing is present everywhere it was before (I presumed the two were linked, along with the blurred destination displays, as did a lot of others?)
     
  43. Bryer

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    It's got to be something to do with memory usage on Series S, as I'm not getting any low res texture pop or flickering on the Series X. Cab is high res all the time now, with minimal issues.
     
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    The ACS-64 is unplayable with the issue
     
  45. Bryer

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    What console are you using?

    Just testing the TGV at the moment then I'll move on to the ACS-64. No issue noticed with the TGV at the moment. High fidelity and no flickering so far.
     
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    Xbox Series X
    Look my video from the TGV
     
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    OK testing the ACS-64 now.

    Can you give me a little more information as to what you're doing when it weird for you? So I can try and replicate it please.
     
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    On my series x, some cabs are still flickering and blurry textures still happen but don't remain at least...
     
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    I’m on Series X and getting exactly the same flickering text and low res issues as before using London commuter.
     
  50. Bryer

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    Seriously guys, the problem is resolved (yes a little bit of blur happens when you go external and back to internal while it reloads but it's less than half a second).

    This is the thing with console it's either broken for everyone on a type of console (Series S, Series X etc) or it works.

    Series S - I can't test as I don't own one.
    Series X - Fixed and working as it did previously (pre Rush Hour) with a few fuzzy dials when going from external to internal.

    Reboot your consoles and try again.
     
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