Instant Gaming Tsc Purchase Problem & List Of Add Ons I Should Get

TfW still run the Holyhead to Cardiff service but it is routed via Wrexham from Chester to Shrewsbury which is not in the game.
Before it was TfW it was Arriva trains Wales and they used to run a Manchester - Holyhead service with a Mk3 set



They also ran a Cardiff - Holyhead but that was one train each way SX
Now the Manchester - Cardiff runs 7 days a week with up to 4 different 67s + 5 Mk4 + DVT.

 

No...I believe that the most you can get is a merge of South Wales and Welsh Marches.

 

ludwig....correct me if I'm wrong, but are you a foreign student at University of Brighton, studying medicine?

 

Does arriva trains run the same route between cardiff and holyhead as same as currently? or was it different? And i dont think they run the 67 and mk4 ran on that route anymore its all taken over by 197.

Ah i see.

foreign student is correct, just wrong university. Its University of sussex and studying in media production.

Oh yea as for the Edinburgh to glasglow route. Unsure when will I get it but i am keeping it on the list because ATS have a merge from Preston to Glasglow and Edinburgh, merging that route, WCML north and Over Shap. So it could come in handy after i have done a run from Birmingham to Preston on WCML missing link then i can hop over there as a direct route up to scotland

 

Arriva don't run any trains - they were taken over by TfW - Transport for Wales that is owned by the Welsh Government.
TfW run a train every two hours between Cardiff and Holyhead via Hereford, Shrewsbury, Wrexham to Chester where the trains reverse.

TfW also run a train every hour between Cardiff and Manchester via Shrewsbury & Crewe.
Some of those trains are a Class 67 & 5 Coach Mk4 + DVT sets others are operated by 197s.

But not many Mk4 sets out at the moment due to repairs required on the Class 67s - those trains are worked by 197s

 

oh i meant back when arriva was still in operation before it became TfW. Do they also run the same route as currently ran by 197s?
Do we not have anymore class 67 and mk4 on cardiff to holyhead with TfW now? Again i checked before and everything between holyhead and cardiff is taken over by class 197s.

 

You are not checking fully.
There is normally One 67/Mk5 in the morning 05.30 from Holyhead to Cardiff and one return in the evening at 17.14
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:L40466/2024-12-10/detailed#allox_id=0
And they run the same route that connects Cardiff with Shrewsbury to Wrexham and Holyhead that Arriva used to run.

These are the digrams but the problems with the 67s mean a lot of substitutions exist
http://www.railtourinfo.co.uk/locohauled3a.html

 

ooooh i see- i was only checking mid-day services i didnt thought to check the morning times.
I just checked RTT today and it seems the 2 67 that were meant to run the 2 diagrams didnt run either. They must've break down very easily-

 

question, (i aint getting this in the upcoming christmas sale, but just planning) between Peterborough to York route and York to Newcastle route. Which one should I get first? (And to add note i already have ECML South)

 

There's no right or wrong order, but at £5.99 York-Newcastle doesn't need a sale.

 

Depending on which one you get York to Newcastle is not Electrified and is quite poor in places being released 12 years ogo
Also it is Not Electrified being set before the ECML was electrified in 1991
https://store.steampowered.com/app/208303/Train_Simulator_East_Coast_Main_Line_Route_AddOn/

 

ooh- so if i do want to use the class 91 on ECML, Peterborugh to York would be better suited?

 

Aren't you wanting to run ATS's full route merge eventually?...if so you need to buy what that needs.

 

yea i do. Though its not like they are going to finish the WCML (south) merge in any time soon since i heard nothing of it so far. Or if you're asking about the ECML bit, yea it was just merely a planning bit and not being bought until maybe i am done with WCML.

speaking of the ECML (York to Newcastle) I think i can/need to buy the woodhead route to get an asset pack that comes with that route and so using DPS's modern version of the ECML if i want. I heard the woodhead route is also a pretty classic route?

 

Woodhead is good, but a bit of a niche route. It's also not needed for either of Darren Porter's ECML routes---where did you get that information from?

 

https://www.dpsimulation.org.uk/ecmlne.html

Oh and today is my bday too!

 

That's one of the most vital sites you've just discovered.

Happy Birthday!

Once you got a decent amount of prerequisites, check out the excellent routes from OnTrackSimulation.

Will give you Preston-Blackpool in two versions, electrified and non-electrified, although the southern branch is missing there, it's fantastic. And free.

https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/user/on-track-simulation/uploads

 

The East Coast Mainline Merge
19th January 2019 Off By SPEEDYPETE202
This route is a merge of all the following routes;

• RSC ECML South (DPS extension and upgrade)
• Creative Rail ECML Modern (Steam)
• ECML North East (DPS extension and upgrade)
• Newcastle to Edinburgh (Just Trains)
• DTG South Western Mainline (Southampton to Bournemouth)

The requirements are the above routes and their own requirements.

 

Nothing about Woodhead being needed at DPS...and Happy Birthday!!

If you're thinking of the Buildings pack 01, I believe that also comes with WCML over Shap

 

and...

 

It's actually included with a load of packs...https://steamdb.info/app/24086/subs/

 

Had a look at the route requirements for that, quite a hefty amount. One day I can get that route haha!

oh then i see, guess i dont need the woodhead route for now! I thought i needed it because before i was doing my research, the building pack comes from woodhead, not knowing that it also comes with other routes (ones that i also own now). And thats the case, all i need to do is to get ECML to get DPS's modern version of the ECML between York and Newcastle! So kinda both is possible now.

And thank you for the birthday wishes! Makes my day!

 

oh yea out of curiosity, does either the Peterbrough to York or the Modernised ECML have the NRM that is beside York station?

 

York - Peterborough

DPS North East England

DPS East Coast Mainline North

 

as a little update. found a somewhat couple dollar cheaper deal on instant gaming on the liverpool manchester and i quickly snatched it.

 

okay so this is a huge mess. So because PLD didn't do a christmas sale, that means I probably wont be able to get the Light Pacifics from them (atm they aren't but i doubt they will do one on christmas day).

Now currently with my current purchase list being

Class 67 + it's EP -> 34 HKD + 87.67 HKD (£8.99) = 121.67 HKD
MK2D-F -> 87.67 HKD
North Wales Coast -> 88 HKD
Black 5 -> 44.50 HKD
In total = 341.84 HKD.
(Or 351.60 HKD if swapping the Mk2 to MK1 from AP that is £9.99 or 97.43 HKD)

Unless PLD does a sale then I won't buy the following/if they don't do a christmas sale then I will get these (not all of them.)

Class 319 AP VOL1 (146.19 HKD or £14.99),
Class 442 from steam (59.50 HKD),
Chatham Mainline From London Victoria/Blackfrias to Dover (88 HKD),
375/377 EP (116.80 HKD or £11.99),
Island Line (44.50 HKD)
ECML York to Newcastle (34 HKD)
MK1 from AP (97.43 HKD or £9.99)
Voyager 2019 from Just Trains (119.27 HKD or £11.99)

Class 319 and Class 442 is simply to help get some variety of scenery on the brighton mainline
And the class 319 I can use on WCML South between Milton Keynes and Euston. (so a 2 trick pony)
The class 375/377 EP is merely because I cant stand the current electrostar model that I have from numerous of 3rd rail southern and southeastern routes.
The route to dover is merely because I want to visit dover and its a somewhat regular railtour hot spot from Victoria
Island Line is there so i can complete the Wherry Lines from AP
ECML is there because I pretty much have all the needed requirement to get the modernised version from DPS and I can run my class 91 and superalbs LNER reskin HSTs on it.
And the MK1s are simply for railtours and can be swapped with the Mk2 coach in terms of purchase. Not that I really mind Mk2 being on railtours as WCR is doing just that.

I am trying not to blow my budget between 500 HKD and 600 HKD. Helppppp

 

But the EP uses those models...just what about them don't you like?

Edit: Merry Christmas

 

merry christmas as well.

and i mean AP ones makes the electrostar looks better (at least), heck pretty sure there is a sound pack out there somewhere that fixes a lot of its sound cuz i heard they have a poor sound set in TSC.

to be fair its not really the end of the world for me in terms of 377s?

From left to right
Left is the one from brighton mainline (which i absolutely hate because a lot of the times it spawns in as a /2 without a panto on one of the carriages).
Middle one is from one of the southeastern/portsmouth direct (unsure is it this model or the left one) line because apparently both packs also included a 377 somewhere.
Right is a pure 377/2 from WCMLS. For some reason it also seem to came with a no pantagraph carriage for some reason?
however there is no auto numbering on any of the units (i think, unless i didnt set them up correctly). In fact only the one from Brighton Mainline have it. Apart from it kept spawning /2s with no pantagraph which isnt realistic at all. I hate the old style of how theres only a TOPS number on one side but not the other.

 

Are you basing that on what happens in QD?

 

that and in scenarios.

 

help help because i only get a couple days until January for this sale before its over and i am starting to panic ;-;

 

You have a budget - you should stick to it and buy what you can.

 

ludwigtails Only you know what gives you pleasure in TSC, so only you can decide what to buy. As others have said, you have a budget, so stick to it. Sales will be back several times next year and may offer bigger discounts than now.

 

It’s like any collecting hobby. Enough is never enough. Use what you have for now. You will soon reach your goal!

 

After some consideration, my christmas sale have consisted of
Class 67 and its EP, Mk1 and Mk2 both from AP, North Wales Coast Line, Black 5 and as a filler Class 442 5Wes. Total cost, 498 (ish) HKD. I decided to drop the Bullied Light Pacific from purchase, not matter how much i want it- i feel its not worth it when a sale is not on. And unsure when the next AP's sale going to be so its worth picking up the Mk1 and Mk2. As for the other 3rd rail stuff, buying method of them still havent changed. Either buy them as a group/batch or just buy them solo.

Update on that batch (honestly i should've used number 7 as a special number specifically for 3rd rail stuff tbh)
1st gen electrostar, 2nd gen electrostar, Class 319 Vol 1, Class 455 Vol 2, Island Line and Route to dover from London.
Voyagers I will get them another time. until just trains does a sale on them again, unsure when though considering they go everywhere in the UK. Maybe after I pick up the GWML or starting to pick up routes that are part of the ECML.

 

Glad to see your making progress. Meanwhile go enjoy what you have purchased so far.

 

having an okay time with those lol. I am just glad that I got the Mk2 and Mk1s because now i got flexibilities for coaching stock on a consist.

I have so much trouble with trying to start up the Black 5 and getting it to move. A lot of my keys on keyboard are different to what it's manuals have said. Even if i got it to move I cant put the reverse back to speed up. Etc
Class 442s are okay to drive. Since I never seen one in action (and now never I can because all are gone expect a few that are planned on static display) I can't tell rather or not are their sounds accurate or not. I will leave it up to others to judge that. And such a damn shame that i can't use the SWR reskin for the class 442 because (or it seems any) it's reskin requires the discontinued 442 sound pack. So even if i want to use 442s in their last state, I couldn't. : (
Class 67 have a somewhat similar controls to the class 68, I can see why considering that both classes are built by Stadler.

On another topic, is there anyhow I can modify the Class 377 (ones I got from the southeastern route) to have auto numbering?

 

If you mean numbering of all the coaches to reflect real life governed by the number of just one coach, no. That feature is something you need an AP pack for, and as far as I'm aware those packs are applied to the LondonGillingham 375

The lack of a sound pack won't stop you using the textures. All you need to do is learn how to modify a .bin file.

 

The Class 67s were built by Alstom at Meinfesa in Valencia in 1999-2000
Alstom sold the company to Vossloh and Stadler only acquired the company in 2015.
The Eurolight, Class 68, for in use in the United Kingdom was a variation of a Standard European loco.
There were locos before these were built that have the drivers seat placed centrally.

 

Ah darn. (maybe its not too late for me to do a sneak buy lol, I can afford 11.99 Pounds just it wasn't in my budget before.)

Would you be able to teach me (again) for modifying the SWR 442?

Had the check on the eurolight family- and i think i prefer the UK variant ones much better a lot more lol.

 

welp, i broke, I really couldn't withstand the default electrostar model currently in TSC and I am putting this as a group 4 purcahse (aka whenever I buy trent valley, i am counting towards that 4th budget for sale buying), I spent 12 pounds and bought the 375/377 EP. Its just feels so much better with better sound (downloaded sound EP from SamT too) now.

 

Where do we get the reskin from?

 

https://www.vulcanproductions.co.uk/electric.html
There is also a south west train reskin 442 from ATS that also uses the soundpack which is discontinued. But i assume that would be the same case and edit?

 

after some calculations. its a mess of a purchase I am going to have next. I honestly hope to complete the WCML by March or June. I honestly dont know how because I still got a lot of stuff missing. trent valley is what I am buying next. Then its on ATS stuff, subscription (its honestly very annoying), OHLE pack and chat moss. And I guess edinbrugh to glasglow too so I can complete the Preston to Glasglow route by Danny. Budget constraints is dragging me down.
At the same time I want to run the new sussex line version coming next year but i still need the Southampton to Sailbury for the just train commons library needed for that route and north somerset railway.

Train wise is still a whole mess. To complete the WCML i would've needed, 390 sound pack, class 350 EP, class 87 AP, class 319 VOL 1 EP and I guess to a stretch class 377/379/387 EP for the correct version of a 377 to run between Wembley and Watford (or also for 3rd rail stuff). 3rd rail stuff of what I still want to get, Class 313 AP, Class 455 both the /7 and /8 (SW and SN) plus its EP vol 2. For older southern suburban services (or idk 377/6 or /7?) and 313 for whatever future endeavours that is sussex line for both WCW and ECW and probably the Moorgate branch on ECML South. I heard it was pretty good.

So yea a lot of stuff...

 

You don't NEED any enhancement pack; WCMLoS comes with a class87; Trent Valley adds a class 350, though you'll already have one with WCML-S
All you've listed are luxuries, which you can add later.

 

I haven't followed this thread much however I'm a bit of a completionist when it comes to DLC for games in general and therefore TSC can be a bit of a honeytrap. You need to treat acquiring DLC as a marathon and not a sprint, particularly when you start to consider third party content (AP/RSSLO/ATS etc.) as the price can massively ramp up. Lots of enhancements etc. also have other dependencies which then means you're dropping dead money on old DLC - for example, I wanted to get the 455EP from Armstrong Powerhouse and have the Southern 455 already however noted I need to buy another 455 from the store as this was an essential requirement. I've now put this on the back burner until the next sale. You end up having to follow this bread crumb trail which has additional hidden costs.

You're enthusiasm for the game is great but don't forget to enjoy the enhancements you have. I know the pain of not having all the stock for given scenarios/routes etc. however it can always be brought at a later date and perhaps at a cheaper price.

 

They can all be swapped out. The only key items are the Route assets and the train being driven. Even the train being driven can be swapped out provided the asset is driveable.

 

kilt46 where is edinbrugh & glasglow
ludwigtails maybe a map is required

 

glasglow... the feeling many of Scotland's second city's residents will have tonight after a wee dram or two....

 

Edinburgh Waverley - EMCL North (Just Trains) : Glasgow Central - WCML North
(Just needed to translate for you!)