1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Introducing Train Sim World 2020!

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by TrainSim-James, Jul 16, 2019.

  1. UnlimitedMagic

    UnlimitedMagic Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    502
    Likes Received:
    546
    MY BIRTHDAY IS ON AUGUST 14’TH
    this could be my one day after present
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 4
  2. antony.henley

    antony.henley New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2019
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    4
    Not really sure what to make of this too be honest. I already have two of the routes for TSW (on the PS4 Pro). It would be nice if the GWE route was fully finished with the electrification between Reading and Paddington as well as including the full Heathrow shuttle route and trains as wel as the IET's and is it 387's that replaced the 165's?

    Also I expect the Scenario editor would be released for the PC (shame its not released for the Xbox and PS). Hope fully there could be a conversion tool so that PC based Scenarios could be used on the consoles. Still not convinced though.

    Hentis

    Facebook.com/Hentisrail
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 2
  3. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2017
    Messages:
    454
    Likes Received:
    1,162
    A new modern, electrified GWE route would be a brand new route and DLC. There's no way they could just upgrade the current one for free.
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 7
    • Downvote Downvote x 1
  4. Big Papi34

    Big Papi34 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2018
    Messages:
    763
    Likes Received:
    659
    Who said it was Caltrain?
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  5. Infinity Explorer

    Infinity Explorer Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2019
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    33
    No news or teasers about West Coast DLC on Twitter. Probably tommorow or this week
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  6. ragn05

    ragn05 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2018
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    258
    it's in 2020 page of the site
    [​IMG]
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 2
    • Useful Useful x 2
  7. Infinity Explorer

    Infinity Explorer Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2019
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    33
    Sorry, I meant more teasers. Teasers about trains and stations
     
  8. ragn05

    ragn05 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2018
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    258
    probably next step is the reveal
     
  9. Infinity Explorer

    Infinity Explorer Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2019
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    33
    Decifring Teasers is always fun. I don’t expect the reveal now
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  10. Guerra

    Guerra Member

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2018
    Messages:
    40
    Likes Received:
    23
    Are you gonna solve ghosting problem?
    Are you gonna improve antialiasing?

    If no; don't bother
     
  11. raildan

    raildan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2018
    Messages:
    1,013
    Likes Received:
    1,484
    Yup, they are. Which is why I promise I'll be more careful with my guesses this time and put them in spoilers.

    There is technically one teaser image- go to the main website, click on "TSW 2020," and scroll down a bit, there should be this picture there:

    [​IMG]

    In fact, while we're at it, I think I figured the route out already... see the baseless speculation thread for more (un-spoilered, sorry) details.

    Peninsula Corridor, San Francisco - San José. Many of CalTrain's platforms look like that.

    Still looking forward to figuring out the details on rolling stock and the like, and DTG has surprised us before- this guess could be wrong.
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
    • Useful Useful x 1
  12. Yerolo

    Yerolo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2018
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    254
    The UI and HUD upgrades are the one thing I am looking forward to seeing. I have been saying the UI has been needing an overhaul since the there were more than 3 routes in the game. I thought they would have overhauled it during the rebranding to TSW so this is long overdue (and appreciated) :D
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  13. QNS Chris

    QNS Chris Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    120
    FANTASTIC news - Thank you Dovetail!!

    I'll be on the edge of my seat for the next month - TSW is one of the best train simulators on the market, and is something I've dreamt about since I was a little kid. Any additions / modifications / enhancements are welcome news - especially refreshed scenario and activities content. I also love that TSW 2020 showcases the LIRR (IMO one of TSW's strongest routes), and hope to see some additions / expansion to that route set.

    My wishlist for TSW 2020 is...

    - LIRR M3
    - LIRR Port Washington branch or additional track beyond Hicksville
    - Additional scenarios for all routes

    My overly-optimistic HOPE for the west coast route is BART. Since Caltrain has already been modeled in TS19, I'd think that TSW would want to branch out (Northeast Corridor notwithstanding). BART seems like a logical choice for TSW, as it has great diversity of landscape (urban, suburban, semi-rural), long stretches between station stops in its suburban territory, but is not overly lengthy (routes are 30-50 miles in length with long highway stretches).

    At any rate, I'll be happy with whichever west coast route DTG has chosen!

    Another big THANK YOU to you lovely guys and gals - keep up the great work!!

    Finally - any thoughts on the BART prediction?
     
    Last edited: Jul 16, 2019
    • Upvote Upvote x 4
  14. thearkerportian

    thearkerportian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2019
    Messages:
    1,080
    Likes Received:
    1,683
    That journey mode ("start on ANY route") sounds a bit like the seamless transition from one route to another (e.g. NEC to LIRR or vice versa) we (or, I...) have been craving so much :)
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  15. QNS Chris

    QNS Chris Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2019
    Messages:
    75
    Likes Received:
    120
    Based solely off the picture, I agree with your assessment. However, the wishful thinker in me wants to say BART, as numerous BART platforms use the tactile platform edge in this arrangement. I realize that there is no third rail or black boarding squares in the teaser, but I think that would be too obvious a giveaway.

    Picture snip below is from the Caltrain platform at Millbrae (source: Google image search, Milo Conway January 2018) - looks strikingly similar to the TSW 2020 teaser, and supports your Caltrain assessment.

    Still hoping for BART!

    upload_2019-7-16_18-30-6.png
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  16. Anthony Pecoraro

    Anthony Pecoraro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2016
    Messages:
    1,592
    Likes Received:
    1,752
    This looks fantastic!
     
    • Downvote Downvote x 3
  17. Big Papi34

    Big Papi34 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2018
    Messages:
    763
    Likes Received:
    659
    Where can I find this?
     
  18. cActUsjUiCe

    cActUsjUiCe Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages:
    255
    Likes Received:
    624
    Why do you insist on stirring up crap and potentially putting the future of the beta team in jeopardy?
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 8
  19. Big Papi34

    Big Papi34 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2018
    Messages:
    763
    Likes Received:
    659
    I smell some bull.
     
    • Downvote Downvote x 1
  20. GibbseyNZ

    GibbseyNZ New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2018
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    16
    I have decided a while ago not to buy anymore TSW addons till the developer tools are released that had an announced release date of December 2018.
    If the dev tools are part of of the game that can only be accessed by buying the 2020 version of TSW I, along with a lot of other 3rd party devs would be very disappointed. We are still waiting for proper TS dev tools documentation from a long time ago. It makes route building a real pain as you have to design around the qwerks of how the game engine operates and there is no documentation to say thats how the game engine works.
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 2
    • Downvote Downvote x 2
  21. Big Papi34

    Big Papi34 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2018
    Messages:
    763
    Likes Received:
    659
    I never said it wasn't Caltrain raildan has made some obvious points. But I doubt the the beta team told you this.
     
  22. Yerolo

    Yerolo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2018
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    254
    There has never been a release date for the tools.
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 2
  23. Anthony Pecoraro

    Anthony Pecoraro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2016
    Messages:
    1,592
    Likes Received:
    1,752
    The editor will be free, and not built into the game.
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 3
    • Downvote Downvote x 1
  24. Ian1991

    Ian1991 Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2017
    Messages:
    135
    Likes Received:
    192
    so basically we get TSW rebranded with a new route and menu
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
    • Downvote Downvote x 1
  25. Callum B.

    Callum B. New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2018
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    12
    I think the new base route selection is necessary, but I hope to God that this doesn’t turn into another annually-rebranded game like TS1.
     
  26. WiSchmo

    WiSchmo Member

    Joined:
    Sep 23, 2018
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    71
    This is awesome news! :D

    "Check your performance during each scenario with the new Action Points system which rewards you for completing objectives and driver accuracy. Then see how you can improve on the new debrief screen, which now shows you how you did against the varying speed limits."
    Finally, we can get more feedback on our driving style than just the arrival times. I always wondered whether I braked a little bit too hard here and there...
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 2
  27. hyperlord

    hyperlord Active Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2019
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    114
    Yeah I thought "wow, nice, GFX update" but ... well ... after 30 years of gaming I reminded myself about "Trailers" ;-)
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2019
  28. TrainSim-Daniel

    TrainSim-Daniel Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2018
    Messages:
    201
    Likes Received:
    171
    TSW2020 is a free update. No purchase of any sort is required to access this.
     
    • Useful Useful x 4
    • Upvote Upvote x 2
  29. Yerolo

    Yerolo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2018
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    254
    I dont have an issue with this and it definately looks like there will be an annual refresh (It's been roughly 12mths since the rebranding from CSX:HH to TSW).

    If we get a slew of new features and UI upgrades, why exactly is this a bad thing ? It also provides a cheaper upgrade path for people who are missing routes from their collections...
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 2
  30. Matto140

    Matto140 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2017
    Messages:
    256
    Likes Received:
    298
    It is not featured in announcement, but will we be able to see locations and track names at 2D map?
     
    Last edited: Jul 17, 2019
  31. Derick

    Derick Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2018
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    85
    this is fantastic news looking forward to all the new features to be added with this update and I'm also excited for more information on the new US route in the coming weeks
     
  32. Yerolo

    Yerolo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2018
    Messages:
    162
    Likes Received:
    254
    It's been hinted previously that the 2D map will get some loving in the future. so there may well be. We will just have to wait and see
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 3
  33. ZR Leigh

    ZR Leigh New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2018
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    8
    Sounds good, I’m looking forward to hearing more about it soon.
     
  34. Boyka91

    Boyka91 Active Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Messages:
    255
    Likes Received:
    194
    I’m looking forward to that
     
  35. Rob39

    Rob39 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Messages:
    980
    Likes Received:
    723
    The way I read this is.
    A new US route added
    All current TSW routes upgraded.
    Scenario movements happening within service mode.
    More optimised console versions.
    Graphical improvements.
    Better sound? Hopefully.
     
  36. Swisstrains

    Swisstrains Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2019
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    119
    So, I read the whole page, and now I have some questions, and some speculations:
    First the questions:
    •Upgrade for the current routes; Is this meant, that the routes will be longer (for example the Msb up to Würzburg) or how is it meant?
    •The new DD Edition will have a current UK route, a current German route and the new US route?
    Now two speculations:
    •For the journey mode, maybe when you start on the RSN (for example) and you drive a freight train to the end, you not get to the menu, the game loads and then you come out at MSB, where you are starting in the same freight train and have to drive on the MSB...
    •Maybe they will update the routes, that at every station the timetable is hanging (at small stations a paper, at big stations on a monitor)...
    Cause at the moment, the plan where the timetable should be, is filled with a paper, saying „under construction for a better railway...
    Hope you know what I mean, and sorry for the bad English:|;)
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 3
  37. Swisstrains

    Swisstrains Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2019
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    119
    Do you mean the picture on the thumbnail?
    When yes, I don’t think it is, but it would have been so cool, to get a hint for a new country in TSW, especially Switzerland...
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  38. Infinity Explorer

    Infinity Explorer Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2019
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    33
    I think Route Upgrade is better textures, better environmental sound and interface. For consoles, possibly more improvements
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  39. xD 2Bad4You

    xD 2Bad4You Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2018
    Messages:
    929
    Likes Received:
    714
    I cant seem to read anything in the Article that mentions Route Upgrades. It just bundles different routes together than you would get now if you purchase TSW. And if you dont own some of the routes, you can upgrade your Collection for cheaper.

    It will probably include bug fixes for existing routes but i dont believe that they have done any major overhaul to them.
    But to be sure we need to wait for the full list of changes coming with this update.
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 2
  40. TinTin_57

    TinTin_57 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2018
    Messages:
    958
    Likes Received:
    842
    Hopefully, I so want to get the Class 52 off WSR and onto GWR (where the scenario for the 52 meets the mainline). Though again, they would have to make the 52 able to run on the GWR first
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  41. thearkerportian

    thearkerportian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2019
    Messages:
    1,080
    Likes Received:
    1,683
    That wasn't quite what I had in mind actually, but it seems I mininterpreted what I read it anyway.
     
  42. raildan

    raildan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2018
    Messages:
    1,013
    Likes Received:
    1,484
    Actually... I wonder if journey mode is something like quick drive?
     
  43. DB628

    DB628 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2019
    Messages:
    264
    Likes Received:
    261
    Hope they fixed all missing Destination Boards like Talent 2 and DB BR 143 or that all stations get destination service like on Train Simulator.
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  44. Swisstrains

    Swisstrains Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2019
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    119
    Yes, they Features would be fantastic!
     
  45. Rob39

    Rob39 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2018
    Messages:
    980
    Likes Received:
    723
    Scenario and timetable
    Ie. GWE aggregates scenario playing out within the timetable on service mode.
    We’ve started to see this sort of thing on Tees then with the NTP freight pack. With movements only seen previously in scenarios playing out as AI during services.
     
  46. hyperlord

    hyperlord Active Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2019
    Messages:
    227
    Likes Received:
    114
    Maybe someone at DTG noticed that the "wait for passengers to enter"-time is wayyy too long. Usually, my experience, the Talent 2 for example stays no longer than 30 seconds with doors open...

    Or is it just me being impatient? ;-)
    Maybe this parameter is modable in far future ...
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1
  47. Tomas9970

    Tomas9970 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2018
    Messages:
    337
    Likes Received:
    376
    It's unrealistic and should be removed. We should be able to shorten our stops when running late.
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 4
  48. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2017
    Messages:
    454
    Likes Received:
    1,162
    Where did this 'Route upgrades' come from? As far as I'm aware, it isn't mentioned anywhere in the article and seems like it just something someone made up on here?

    There will be no free route extensions or anything like that. As far as texture visuals go, I doubt any changes will and can be made for existing routes or DLC.

    The visual graphical issues such as flickering and shimmering as well as sound upgrades are related to the Unreal Engine, and it will be up to the developers when they feel it is the right time to upgrade. Any changes and updates that are made, these will be part of a core update at some point. Note it will not be included in this upcoming one.
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 2
  49. Anthony Pecoraro

    Anthony Pecoraro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2016
    Messages:
    1,592
    Likes Received:
    1,752
    I noticed that most of the newer trains aren’t flickering.
     
    • Downvote Downvote x 1
  50. kalteVollmilch

    kalteVollmilch Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2018
    Messages:
    120
    Likes Received:
    239
    I don't think there will be any changes to the routes (like destination boards or timetables). They did changes on the game engine, but the routes itself probably never were touched.
    Also nowhere in there article is a mention of such things as route upgrades/improvements. Flickering on the other hand MIGHT be fixed, if they changed that part of the engine. Don't quote me on that though, this is imply speculation and hoping
     
    • Upvote Upvote x 1

Share This Page