Is Simrail What Tsw Should Have Been?

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  1. aeronautic237

    aeronautic237 Well-Known Member

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    Could you fix the misinformation please? Is it 3 or 4 routes and what are they called?
     
  2. rennekton#1349

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    He was referring to the content in simrail being equivalent to like 3 or 4 routes in tsw. 500km, timetable for multiplayer i guess, number of rolling stock. The amount of content is endless to be honest since you can pick any service you want any time of day. There's always something to do
     
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    Oh fine. so it's one big route. Thanks.
     
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    Railway Line 1 - Katowice - Warszawa is about 320 kms
    Railway Line 62 - Katowice - Sedziszow is about 120 - 150 kms
    Overall, considering branch connection and everything else, its already over 500 kms. Also, another route is in development, an extension from Tunel in Line 62 to Krakow down south which is about 70 - 100 kms.
     
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    3 or 4 routes? 500km, that’s 6 routes of TSW actually, basing it off our last releases from this year
     
  6. eldomtom2

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    Well no, by its very nature you can't pick a service at whatever time of day you like in Simrail until they add singleplayer timetables.
     
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  7. driverwoods#1787

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    Wow and if you look at it it's the Polish Railway network built by the Russians Austrians and the Germans. Because 150 years ago the area was a tripoint of those nations that controlled Poland. The Eastern Section of the map posted is the former Austrian Galizien Carl Ludwig Bahn license is held by the ÖBB. Glewitz Oppln the German Silesian Railway which is also known as Hauptstrecke Berlin/Görlitz/Hoyerswerda Kattowitz via Breslau. Line 1 is split between Russian Empire and Austria-Hungary when built
     
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    But you can rebind the keys, because I have. Ironically I've rebound all my SimRail ones to the TSC ones (which in reality are actually MSTS ones from way back when)
     
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    To be fair, neither can actual drivers, they just get told, you will turn up at X o'clock, and you'll work these trains on that day.

    Hopefully at some point there will be different servers with different time and season offsets, but at the minute, I don't mind server EN1 matching real time, if it's 1500 real time, I know it'll be 1500 on the server, in game. If I want to drive a service at 0800, I just get out of my pit earlier!
     
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    There are servers with multiple time zones ...
     
  12. denis

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    What I like about Simrail
    There are no big announced update times or updates always on a specific day of each month... which results in half finished work being released that breaks more than it fixes.

    SimRail devs work their asses off during the week on this simulator for us, and release things when they ready to be released,
    And bod i will take this way over the tsw way any day.

    In the mean time I am enjoying the sim, big railway net, there's plenty of trains to drive, plenty of dispatcher posts, learn the route, learn the train (there are still people who do not know about the fast move of the EU07 / EP08's power wheel that takes it straight to notch 28 / 43 / or back to off). After Simrail TSW's Universe seems to be very narrow and lifeless....empty in terms of railway feeling
     
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    The Zgorzelec to Dresden route looks like it might be interesting. I will still wait to see how single player evolves. If it is just a bunch of services and does not feature a timetable mode then it isn't for me.
     
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    The first PZB route in Simrail. German speakers spelt Zorgolec as Görlitz Moys because polish city names are hard to pronounce for Germans that's why they stick to the German name. Same with Silesia
     
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    New keybind:
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    The new update can handle the gamepad and so it will be possible to play the game on Steam deck or ASUS ROG Ally if the game can run on these. A public test branch will be available in 2-3 weeks. Someone posted a picture of the steam locomotive on facebook and they said that it will work like the TSW3, no manual firing will be available If I understood correctly.
     
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    From Searchlight Simulations, for their upcoming route.

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    For a German speaker this is Görlitz Moys Dresden Hauptbahnhof route. The tutorial needs to cover on how to switch between SHP and PZB
     
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    Actually leaked localization strings show that manual firing seems to at least be planned.
     
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    From the Depot building it's a Milwaukee Road RR Structure current owner CPKC. For Simrail they can try marrying the PKP 3KV DC and Milwaukee Road route the end result is their electric territory with Little Joe locomotive.
     
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    ETCS system is one of the coming SimRail features. [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Does it also show when to turn off the main switch? It is quite detailed. It will be a big update once it is released.
     
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    It’s good they are doing this but not so good they are still dancing around the elephant(s) in the room - that SimRail needs a much better single player experience and a save game feature.
     
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    Also a route editor would be nice. I really hope they're not doing the same as DTG and keeping all the creation away from the community and keeping it for themselves. Early days, so hopefully not...
     
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    Not every player needs single player experience. I already have TSW for that. Simrail offers own unique approach to train Sims and I hope they focus on that.
     
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    Whilst I think multiplayer is great for those whom want it. However it isn't something I am interested and if Simrail does not offer an equivalent single player experience to TSW then I won't be purchasing it. I don't want to go back to the days of TSC with a handful of scenarios.
     
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    This is the same for me, I’m not really interested in joining an online multiplayer server but am willing to try out SimRail if they do these following things…

    1. Have a decent single player experience.
    2. Release UK based content.

    I am interested to see how the game develops though and whether any of the UK content creators will work on the game at some point.
     
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  30. theorganist

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    Yes certainly some UK routes would be good to see in Simrail. I never got into non UK routes in TSC due to the set up with only having a few scenarios. For UK routes, where I know about the prototype, I enjoy(ed) making scenarios.

    In TSW, with service mode it has helped me appreciate the non UK routes so even without UK routes Simrail with a service mode timetable would tempt me to try out some of the content.
     
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    Almost a little curious. But I think Uk routes mostly attracts those who live in Great Britain. But it's a big market, many People live there.
    And I might think that many people are interested in railways there
    But for me who does not live there, they are at the bottom of the list of routes that I want.
     
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    Well I would imagine German routes would attract mainly Germans, USA routes Americans! I do enjoy routes from other countries very much, but as a Brit my knowledge and main interest is in UK railways. I would say the UK is a large market for train simulators, just as Germany and the USA is, I might be wrong, but as well as TSC and TSW, UK routes have featured quite a lot as payware in MSTS and Trainz.

    There are probably many untapped potential markets too which I would like to see explored.
     
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    It will depend on the licenses acquired for any legal representation of foreign prototypes by this Polish developer.

    Like with the requests and suggestions in the TSW forum, not every player's wish or dream will be fulfilled.
    Perhaps some universal, pan-European modern electric locomotive can be repainted, if the developer even includes repaint features.
     
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    Simrail team has shared some new screenshots of the EN57 :)

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    simrail.express is built into the game I love it :love:
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    LOL, you've got to love that cheap kitchen veneer utilitarian look ;-)
    At least it is spic and span.

    Otherwise, SimRail seems to develop nicely and in a completely different direction compared to TSW which seems to be stuck in the same kind of route and is featureless by comparison.
    No 'collectibles' in SimRail either?
     
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    The EN57 does look nice and might tempt me over for a quick drive when it releases. Relive the spirit of the old MS-DOS “Mechanik” sim!
     
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    The developers have explained that simrail is more geared towards hardcore simulation since they have created real life simulators for real world drivers so it will be as realistic as can be. Tsw is meant to be more beginner friendly for players like me who just want to have fun
     
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    And SimRail still caters primarily for its multiplayer audience with little to no progress on offering a better SP experience or save game.
     
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    Yes, this decision making still confuses me. MP is not for everyone, and open anarchy MP even less.
    Perhaps once the game gets properly released and a community develops, some decisions regarding MP in 'railway' mode, ie with a dispatcher and players in some kind of hierarchy and in different roles might evolve?

    SP still is a very solid selling ground, esp with good AI and automatic dispatching allowing manual override as in Run8's 'Otto'.
     
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    Again with the "anarchy MP" thing ...
     
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  43. denis

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    There is NO anarchy in MP
     
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    Indeed. People keep talking without even trying it.
     
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    Those early experiences were probably enough to put people off from coming back.

    However for many of us that’s not the main issue, easy enough to find a quiet server. No I want to be able to enjoy the same level of timetable operation in single player and be able to save and pick up where I left off later. I don’t dislike SimRail or decry what the devs have achieved, the EU07 etc is a pleasure to drive and much nicer sounding than the TRAXX locos in TSW. But until I can run the game on my terms, it will remain dormant on my HD - the exception being maybe trying the EN57. I really don’t understand their fixation on multiplayer. Even Run 8 realised that the majority of players want a solo experience and have progressively tailored their product to accommodate both.
     
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  46. denis

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    i've driven over 30,000 Km, i've never had the same drive shift in that time, every time something is different.... Simrail is a simulator rather than a game. Is simulates a real life train driving and signalling.
     
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    I do understand why they are putting off SP for a while . A reason is piracy ;). I could go dipper into it but....
     
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    I really don’t get that at all. Why should enhancing the SP game and adding a save feature encourage piracy? It’s a risk all developers and publishers take anyway when deciding to make a product which is why these days most are sold through Steam or other DRM jackets to provide some measure of protection. Should not be used as an excuse to deprive honest players like ourselves who have paid for the product and willing to support it with additional DLC purchases the best possible experience.
     
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    I honestly think they are looking at current market and observing that there are no good MP train simulator games. So I would absolutely go for the market cap.

    Also I really don't understand fearing anarchy or trolling on Simrail. I have played Simrail already +60h. Never ever I have seen any misconduct. Everybody is very helpful, professional and just good people enjoying train simulator together. Last night when I played it was pretty much single player experience. If I didn't know that other train drivers or dispatchers where human I wouldn't know.

    And Vern respectfully, I know that you like SP games and that is all good. But please understand that not every game is not meant to be for you. They don't make games to please all people. Enjoy games as they are and don't force them into something else. SP will probably come on some form to Simrail. But focus is probably going to be on MP experience.
     
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  50. denis

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    Bacause Simrail has been broken already ) , but without adding new SP features that is less intresting for free downloading so developers can gain more income at the current time.

    One of the things about the SimRail team - they release things after doing a hell of a lot of testing, and so far the updates have been pretty good at not breaking existing features etc.

    There was mention that a public test of the new input system might be released in about 2 weeks, this was about a month ago.

    But we know that the input system has basically been re-written from scratch and has so many new features that bugs are going to take a while to fix. Because they want to release fully working updates ( unlike DTG), not half assed updates on set dates to please those who can't wait... who would then complain even louder about broken features.
     

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