I am just trying to be pragmatic, playing devils advocate, looking at it from both sides. Something very few on here are willing to do. What if they have no choice, what if, as has been alluded to releasing an editor is just impractical and will not work? Just try thinking about that? You can keep telling them you want them to do so and so, but if they can't do it then they won't do it. Anyway I am leaving this discussion, it will go on and on for weeks, the editor isn't going to happen, certainly not in the foreseeable future, it has been alluded as to why, yet most people don't want to listen and don't want to hear and I think quite frankly have their heads in the sands. And, for the record, I am no happier about the lack of editor as any of you. But I have better things to do than spend my time arguing on a forum.