I'd very much like a Blackfriars to Sevenoaks and/or Orpington route for the 700 in TSW, mainly because you'd get quite a lot of 465 traffic with the timetable as well, as this fantastic loco deserves much more than just SEHS which is starting to feel rather repetitive now considering the several DLCs like the RHTT, 37 ROG and 700 etc.
Personally I hate the 700 IRL but it's everywhere now thanks to GTR so hey ho... I think the thing with SEHS is it's three routes in one, so you get the variety (HS1, NKL to Strood, CML to Faversham) At least if we had the 700 we can do away with the electrostars running on the NKL entirely because they don't run past Strood IRL
I do like SEHS and it is probably the best UK route in the sim for me, certainly when the class 700 comes as there will be four quite different EMU's to drive and all the freight layers. However for me having a section of the classic lines isn't so fulfilling. Virtually all the 375 and 465 services come and go off map at both ends and the class 700 is only running part of a service, not that I would really expect a complete Thameslink route and this juncture. Despite the plethora of them I would welcome another SE third rail route to run the 465 and 700 on. We don't know what is coming after the new Hadfield route so maybe there might still be something for the class 700.
Thameslink routes all go through the core and up to Beds or Cambs, so not likely to see a full run in TSW
I think the lack of news about a summer release means we can probably take a pretty safe guess that the Class 700 will be part of this. DTG will want to do more with it than Dartford to Rainham. I’d like to see the Core featured with the option of using ATO in that section. Bedford to Blackfriars would be a decent run. For all we know, DTG may have been working on a new version of the game that makes it possible to build a route such as Brighton to Bedford.
How does the lack of news about the summer release = 700-centric route? That's the definition of 'a huge stretch...'
It would be nice but the trend appears to be in the other direction... if it keeps going, in ten years we'll be paying £80 for the likes of Cheltenham - Gloucester (8 miles).
So with the update for SEHS coming out today we can speculate the arrival is less than a month away. July 11th ?
Don't you think it's time to rename the game British train sim? 80% of the content is about Britain, they forgot about the U.S. freight. Added in a hurry 1 route from the U.S., and that unfinished.
In fairness having created both the 700* and the 387, including their AC modes, does enable Dovetail to create a well-serviced ECML South route while sticking to the one new loco per route (an 800/801) expectation. Doesn't mean it will happen, but it could happen. *Though releasing it as a loco DLC does decrease the chance of it being included in a route in the near future, though it also didn't take long for the DB 363 to be included in a route.
rather silly suggestion… one thing i find about the game and America is freight ain’t no shortage… the name would also imply their isn’t a single route outside of Britain not to mention the ones in Germany… edit: what is this freight you claim they forgot anyhow ? Trenton was the recent US route (passenger) over freight, likewise steam was for U.K. over modern and Linke Rheinstreke was the German older content over Modern this time around.
Actually if you look, the first party content is rather evenly split. With 3rd parties, they do what there good at, for example I am not expecting any British or US content from TSG anytime soon.
You do realise they are a British company. They could only make British content should they wish. Most US companies only make US based games/sims for example.
It's a pretty even split between the US, UK and Germany. Switzerland gets good coverage thanks to Rivet/RSSLO and hopefully now DTG is French-owned and better financed we'll start to see more routes and modern traction for all of the above. Most of us have to wait a long time to see our favourite routes. I've been waiting 18 years to see a simulation of the line that I worked on and is therefore top of my list, the London, Tilbury and Southend. Imagine how it feels when we get more DLC to bolster the Chatham Main Line which is 5 miles' south of the LTS across the Thames but I remain (fairly) patient.
Why wouldn't it not be like that? If that's how it looks in real life, that's how it'll look like in tsw. There's been several screenshots already that show you what it looks like if you want to judge and decide
Screenshots say work in progress and was mainly referring to the colors around environment.I’m sure the final product will look great.
I do like the 700 - although I think only having them in Southeastern route is bit limiting. If developers can add services into BML then that would be great although that would be between East Croydon and Brighton section. Also Three Bridges depot - lots things can be done with Unit Preps, ECS moves.... etc. BML needs London Bridge section and that would be complete (Can simulate the fact Thameslink services will start and terminate at London Bridge)
It would also be nice if they weren't limited to 3rd rail. Also London Commuter doesn't need anything: you would like it to have more.
I agree however we do not have any routes with overhead wires in TSW 3 yet that they operate in real life. Midland Mainline south from Bedford to London we do not have it or East Coast mainline where they run between Peterborough/Cambridge and Kings Cross. Unless they get released at some point in future. London Commuter definitely needs London Bridge section to make it realistic. I would not mind driving it between East Croydon and Brighton however in real life Thameslink drivers change at either Three Bridges or London Bridge.
Yes but they can be made and would mean we all get a new experience with the 700. My point still stands that London Commuter doesn't need London Bridge but it is something you think would be nice to have for the route.
Could they do another timetable on London Commuter similar to what they did with Bakerloo, Kohl, Rapid transit. So you keep the previous timetable and you make a new one that includes the 700 and remove the other fictional layers like the HST, southeastern 375 East Croydon to Rehill.
You are correct and for RSSLO they made Austrian German and Slovenian routes for TSC which we might get Schnellfahrstrecke Innsbruck Rosenheim and Schnellfahrstrecke Wien Sankt Pölten Linz Wels Salzburg Westbahn.
Unless of course they do as with Glossop and BCC - if you bought the 700 as standalone DLC for SEHS then you get a 10% discount on whatever the new UK route is, assuming the 700 is the main traction type.
Thursday 6th July - Class 700 Preview (JD , Matt and James Lewis) Your first look at the upcoming Thameslink Class 700/0, hosted by JD, Matt and special guest James Lewis!
Speculating it might be a layer to the still yet to be announced UK route which that route could come with the 700/1. Since DTG didn’t released the /1 together. I suspect it was for a reason.
And Derail Valley, which anecdotally gets its major update today, runs in a mountain and lake fantasy land! We got Cajon last year, warts and all plus HSC before that, so it’s hardly fair to argue DTG aren’t catering for the US freight market. Besides which, anyone with a serious interest in US heavy freight is probably playing Run 8 as well.
What I’m speculating is the 700/0 on SEHS is just a preview to the main event DLC which would probably come in the form of the 700/1 as part of the new A/C power UK route.The 700/0 would layer in this route .This has probably been one of the most requested and I think as with the Acela, it would make sense to feature on several routes. I’m probably wrong but if I’m thinking financially it would make sense. I feel SEHS is not a route that the 700 can spreads it wings.
What’s interesting about all this speculation about a BML layer not coming and how the 700 will only be on SEHS, dtg said there won’t be a BML layer, but I don’t recall ever hearing that there won’t be a 700/1. The next month will be interesting to see what happens
Yeah dtg and matt have said multiple times that BML needs more optimisation pass overs before they can add another dlc to it. But I imagine its obviously high on the radar for that route.
You would think so, it is certainly one of the most requested DLC since BML was released. Also since the class 700 DLC was announced, but not for the Brighton line it has increased the calls for it to be layered in the BML. You would think it would be a certainty for the future but who knows.
Yeah I would agree with how heavily its been requested. But I also wonder how high BML is on the list for work and optimisation? Maybe could be apart of some of the work and fixes etc dtg have said they're working on in this little break but I have to say imo their eggs are in the summer release basket. hopefully the road map tells all!
I would imagine it is one of their "flagship" routes, it is certainly popular so I would imagine it must be in their thoughts. But I wouldn't imagine much will happen with it for a while.
Is funny how If I remember correctly back then they never mentioned that Thameslink or 700 was not in the BML was because the game couldn’t handle. The reason that was always mentioned was the 700 wasn’t in the game and they didn’t have the license. It was also mentioned that Joe actually left the slots open for when that day came.So don’t really buy it. They can make another timetable like several other routes in the game have, like Kohl, bakeloo,Rapid transit, that would include the 700 and remove the other fictitious layers. This way everyone wins you keep the current time table and you make the new one with the 700 . So BML would have two timetables available.
Totally agree with this. I don't buy it either. As you say, they said on the livestreams when the route was launched that the Thameslink timetables were there ready to go and the reason they weren't activated was because there wasn't a 700 in the game. Well now there will be but all of a sudden BML can't cope? It doesn't stack up. And if it really can't cope, just remove the HST layer.
I remember in the stream they said the HST layer was there because of a real HST run that took place as a division service.
I remember that too but honestly, an HST service that took place on a small number dates or a staple of the services on the BML in the form of the class 700? I know which one I'd rather have on the route.
