Also AI versus playable service. But anyways as I mentioned they can keep the original time table there, just add another time table with the 700, remove the HST, southeastern diversion services between red hill and east croydon
Doesn't the HST only run from the Waterloo portal through Clapham Junction then straight off via another portal? ie nowhere that the 700 even runs?
How would the community feel if BML was re-released this summer in the same way that SEHS was last year to accommodate the 700? Happy enough or disappointed no new UK route?
Personally I’d take BML upgraded it if it included tsw3 lighting, the 700 and the merge with east Coastway, including the Keymer branch
In my opinion I’ll rather have a great route make ever better than to launch a brand new one with another empty, one train route. If that makes sense
Honestly I'd be outraged, and am still a bit ticked off about last year. The British route this year must be new in my view. A reworked LBN could work but as a dlc not part of the core.
I wouldn't be happy ngl. BML is a great route and some extra work on it wouldn't be a bad thing as an update for extra dlc. But re releasing it with what would probably a small discount at best would be a similar kick in the teeth as sehs felt last year. I dont want to buy the electrostars again lol. Wouldn't mind if the 700 layered into the big summer release though.
Fair point. I do agree that the best option and what I do see happening is the 700/0 be a layer add on to the next UK route. Similar to the Acela.
I'd absolutely be happy IF: It includes TOD4 It includes the full Class 700 timetable It's extended (something at least as substantial as SEHS' extensions to Ashford Int'l and Dartford) I know i'm probably in the minority, but BML has far and away the busiest and best timetable in the game IMO so i'd LOVE to see it get the 2.0 treatment.
I do not want to see a reworked bml released as a dlc ever. Layer the 700 in but don’t charge us again for bml. Do it with ntp, tvl or gwe but not bml!
I know I said it must be a new route and this should probably be in the sweepstake thread, BUT an NTP extended to Liverpool and York with a 25 and another 1st gen dmu would certainly interest me. Actually any of NTP, TVL or GWE being extended would convince me to buy them, just not LBN.
Oh I don't know, though now I reread MG's post I can see why that was the assumption, possibly even what he meant, though not sure really. As I said to you before mate I am in for any diesel in blue or green with a BR badge on it so this would do me nicely!
Sorry no O didn’t mean add the 700 to those routes I meant it more along the lines Matt interpreted it as I too am more of a diesel fan!!!
Yes, sorry I totally misread it. It was meant as a light hearted comment…..oops,(it’s my age, just ignore me)lol
I too would certainly pay for an extended NTP or TVL especially with a new item of DLC. I would possibly pay for an extended ECW too, I would like to see any of these three extended. If the only way BML was going to get the 700 and possibly TSW3 enhancements was through paying something for it, I think I would, especially if it was the class 700/1 which was being included, which I know isn't much different from the 700/0. I would rather it was free but I also would rather it got a class 700 layer and enhancements, plus optimisation too.
The class 700 has that big open cab look that is very fun to drive. I find it very difficult to believe that DTG would take all this time to get and build one of the most requested DLC just for SEHS. I do believe 700/1 will come together with an AC power UK route.
I would love to see Newcastle York Section of the ECML set in the same era as TVL and quite possibly have the tvl to either Thornaby or Saltburn. Not gonna lie it would be greatbto see but yeah it won't happen. As to GWE that will have to be completely rebuilt as the route was I think their second ever route so.much has changed to the real work since 2015. Hentis
It appears the tms is modelled, does this mean there will be automated announcements? They were added after many requests to Edinburgh Glasgow, but the topic has all gone quiet since then
The only problem I have with that era is you wouldn't have an ECML icon. Yes the HSTs were running but you could go to a lot of other railways in the rest of the country and see them, whereas with the Deltics and 225s, they were the trains of the ECML and were unusual to see anywhere else. It is hard though as this and TVL would go together well if it weren't to the 1989 setting.
Yes Rainham (not even Faversham) to Dartford would be a bit of a waste. That's why I firmly believe (but liable to be proved wrong) this years big UK release will be something like Bedford to Blackfriars or - the ultimate dream - Bedford linked into BML so you would have over 100 miles of through running via Thameslink.
I can realistically see Bedford to Blackfriars which would be a 53 mile long route,19 stations,1000+ passenger services,with mostly all resources needed already Available in the game (HST,700,66,395 for AI).we already have the HSTs for East Midlands as AI represented in SEHS. I went back to TSC and have been playing london to Bedford route lately and it is a very busy route.
Oh no I’m talking about Kings X - Peterboro with a line to Cambridge as a second terminus, along with the Moorgate lines
While I’d love Bedford-Blackfriars, I agree with OldVern that linking this up with BML would be the ultimate dream. It’d feel like such a missed opportunity not to do it. But we’re probably in fantasy land at this point.
I think it’s more likely we have BML merged, it’s a much more popular and newer route and demand for updates for the route is so much higher
If or when the 700 makes its way to BML, it would be nice to get a bit of an extension north from East Croydon.
I think a 700 layer on the BML should include the run up to Blackfriars with the hope one day that an MML to Bedford DLC will link in to it. Personally if DTG were doing a remake of London to Brighton I'd prefer a backdated one to 2004/2005 and include slam door 423s and 455s. Keeping a 423 to time and having inner suburban stoppers would add a new dimension to the route.
Class 700 preview scheduled for Thursday. Does this suggest that the DLC will be released this month?
I live about 100m from Gillingham station and the line is OK, but could do with more freight for my liking (specifically the Chatham Mainline section which has no freight IRL) Also, I don't like the 700... it looks odd at the front, the sounds are OK if a little annoying and the thing that's got me from day one is the light on the top that is supposed to highlight the OHLE doesn't turn off, even when all pantos are down... so you have this really long train with two lights on top lighting up the sky and pointing at nothing for over an hour between London Bridge and Rainham... Amazing what gets peoples goats...
I have to ask this, knowing that I'm sailing into a headwind. What's so special about the Class 700? Isn't it just another emu like all the others we've seen on just about all UK routes since whenever? Call it a " desiro " if you like, but to me it's just the latest in a long line of " electrostars ", a particularly ugly one at that, encased in that elephantine front end serving no functional purpose. I suppose its one saving grace is the apparently full width windshield. And the fact that it will necessarily take us back to the London area makes it even less attractive. " Shields up, warp speed Mr Sulu "
Well it is the last train missing from the route really. Without it a complete tranche of services aren't represtented or were represented by the wrong train. I am not a fan of them particularly but if they make the route "complete" and more varied than that is what we want for all routes, a realistic representation of what would be there, where possible. I would be quite happy if DTG and the others started filling in the gaps on other routes whether they were UK, German, USA or other regions.
Fair enough and it's good to see any route fully populated with appropriate rolling stock, an all too rare occurrence on TSW. I'm hoping the same will happen to NYT, though I have my doubts.
Looking at the Ambassador previews on the 10th of July its normally not long after that? I'd say maybe 11th or 12th or that week at least? Im on the fence at the moment. Its another layer for sehs and adds more variety which is really nice. But I'm not overly hyped or excited about it. I do however think it's gonna play a part in the summer release which also gives me more incentive
Would absolutely love to see this! In my opinion, TSW needs more large routes again with epic timetables and lots of different rolling stock/services, something which TSW 3 in general I felt has severely lacked (especially UK routes). With Rush Hour in my view being the pinnacle of the franchise, and that Boston Sprinter has been very well-received with a TOD 4 update and Acela DLC, it seems highly logical for London Commuter (one of the most popular TSW routes regardless) to get an update with the 700, memory optimisation-permitting. I don't see why that's exactly an issue considering that for UK routes, London Commuter and SEHS have by far the busiest timetables, and with a plethora of rolling stock already in TSW such as the 166, 375, 377, 395, 465, 700 and even the GWR/EMT HSTs, it means never having a newer, empty, lifeless large stations or one-loco route with a lackluster timetable - just to be clear though, I would also like to see more routes from elsewhere across the UK too, but would also like to see a new London/SE route every so often again for the reasons stated above.
Having all those locos now readily available makes London area routes now more attractive. There's just so many that can layer onto one route, whether as AI or playable services.
The 700 is so important because it’s the main train on two of the most popular routes in TSW, it’s also the main train in one of the most requested routes for TSW
Totally with you. Being from the land of trains with no gangways through the cabs (aka East Anglia) I don't enjoy driving along peering through a tiny window like those found in the Southern Region Electrostars or Scotrail's 385s. I like to see the sky and the environment, even if you need sunglasses for TSW3 due to over saturated daylight.
Sadly seems to have been confirmed no BML layer; what a waste unless they're keeping something else under wraps.
