PS5 Lighting On Tsw1-2 Routes

Hello,
I have noticed that the lighting on older routes (e.g. London Commuter) is far too dark. Sometimes I can't see anything, even though it's daytime and the sky is clear. I didn't notice this so much before and I also compared it with videos from a few years ago, where the lighting doesn't look so bad.

 

You will need to share screenshots. But know tsw uses 2 different types of lighting

 

Have you been playing routes that released after TSW3 a lot recently? It might just be that you got used to TOD4 and now TOD3 looks very dark in comparison (I believe DTG did say that TOD4 is about 1000 times brighter than TOD3).

If you scroll about a quarter of the way down this page, it explains the new lighting (if you weren't already aware - you might be aware of this already): https://live.dovetailgames.com/live/train-sim-world/articles/article/tsw-roadmap-part-2-10-08

 

They updated the lighting for TSW3. Any routes released before then (except those that have either been remade or remastered) will use the old lighting system.

Very noticeable when you play a route released for TSW3/4/5 and then one released from TSW2 or before.

 

Firstly, thanks for the answers. Yes, I know that TSW has been using a new lighting system since TSW 3. But I have an example on the ‘Slow way home’ scenario on London Commuter. The first screenshot shows the start of the scenario from Nealtv8 on YouTube, uploaded 3 years ago. The second shows the same scenario from my stream recording from yesterday. I think it looks a lot darker than Nealtv8 from 3 years ago.

 

And, yes I think it could well be a matter of getting used to it because I play a lot of TSW3,4,5 routes. Nevertheless, here are a few pictures where I think the lighting is too dark or just looks strange. And I would like to point out that it looks even darker on my TV.

 

And chris#8132, I noticed the same thing on XB-SX, it's like the lighting was increased 2K and then dropped just under 1K it can be seen on the MBTA route It can be so bright like the sun is at the nose oof the train, and then almost normals out, and other routes it's much to dark. Yes, it is Annoying. This is why I wish the option to use mods were available to all console players.

 

The lighting on the German route looks incredibly dark, doesn't it. I wonder if the shadows cast by the trees and walls are compounding the issue.

As for the first screenshots of 'Slow Way Home' the class 377 on the route used to have a bug where the saloon lights would light up the cab as well as the saloon. This was fixed last year, so the cab may appear a little darker. The scenery (to me) looks to be at the same brightness.

Actually, looking at it again, the tracks may be a tad darker in your screenshots. Weird. I wonder if having the cab lights on will help. It looks like the window has a tint applied to it that may have been hidden by the saloon lights bug mentioned previously.

Fair play for spotting this, though. I would've never seen it!

Aside from shadows, I can't explain the German route being so dark unless it was always this dark.

 

Yeah, I've always thought the lighting in Boston Worcester is weird, especially in Boston South Station. Some routes are very good but some are too dark.

 

Here is what my game on a PC looks like. It looks the same as yours. I was wondering if comparing PC to PlayStation was an issue, but it seems like they have changed something (probably in the name of memory improvements). I notice that the foliage is also different.

 

Yes, I think the German route is a very good example of how it's sometimes just too dark and you can't really see anything. I don't know whether it's just so dark compared to the newer routes and it's always been like that, or whether something has happened to make the lighting darker.

And about the screenshot of ‘Slow way home’: The update explains that it is darker in the driver's cab. Thank you very much! But exactly, I also think the scenery outside looks darker, as if the window of the Class 377 ist heavily tinted, which I never noticed before. If you go to the outside view, the scenery and the tracks are also much brighter. I also made a comparison with the Class 387 and it's not as dark there as in the 377

 

It is definitely a result of the tint in the 377's window. I don't know if it was changed, but for some reason, the 377 has a significant tint in its window that wasn't there before (cab light had no effect on it).

I wonder if it came in the same patch that fixed the saloon light bug - the saloon light bug was not actually mentioned in the patch notes for it.

 

Ok, so the reason is definitely the window tinting. I haven't compared much but the Class 387 GX doesn't seem to have it and I haven't noticed it on any other route (except Lucerne Sursee, but that has been the case since the release). Nevertheless, it generally remains too dark on some routes, as on the German one in my screenshots, but I think that has always been the case and it ist too dark compared to the new routes.

 

So, I tested a few trains on London Commuter in Three Bridges at 10am for window tinting. The first picture shows the view outside a train. Then I tested different trains. London Commuter's Class 377/4 and 387 GX have heavy tinting, as does Rapid Transit's Talent 2. East Coastway's Class 377/4, WCML South's 377/2 and the Class 170 show no tinting. The Class 166 is in between in my opinion. It is particularly interesting that the Class 377/4 from London Commuter has a strong tint, but the Class 377/4 from East Coastway does not.
Screenshots in following Order:
1 View outside
2 Class 377/4 London Commuter
3 Class 387 GX London Commuter
4 Class 377/2 WCML South
5 Class 377/4 East Coastway

 

Here the other Screenshots:

1 Class 166 Great Western Express
2 Talent 2 Rapid Transit
3 Class 170 Scotrail

 

In the first two screenshots you can see that you can recognise the tinting, once the Class 377/4 from London Commuter and once Class 377/4 from East Coastway.


And then I noticed that the photo mode is very dark, which is not the case on other routes I think. See the other two screenshots for comparison. The brighter one is in the normal outside camera and the darker one is in photo mode. So something is very wrong.

 

One last time for tonight: a comparison of the ‘Fast Lane’ scenario with the Class 377/4 London Commuter again.
First one from YouTube from 3 years ago and then (much darker in my opinion) from my Playstation right now. It's now clear that the update has fixed the saloon lighting in the cab, but it's really so extremely dark now that it's not playable for me.

 

Interesting. It's a lot darker than I remember it being.

 

That's what I thought too. The lighting on the older lines was always a little darker due to the other lighting system, but I think it wasn't that much darker.