It is in the corridor if you leave the cab #1 by right hand side door. It is even in era-appropriate graphics quality, what a nice touch.
It´s a stutter orgy on PS5. Sadly, because that route is starting to get really, really good after the last patches. And always on the same spots. Which points to poor optimization. That preservation crew work should´ve never been shut down.
Same on Xbox. Though I wouldn't call it a stutter orgy. More like a number of spots where FPS tanks. With severity on a scale of stutter to slideshow depending on the spot. But it's still better than BRO. That bridge outside Bremen... phew.
It is? I don't remember it being that bad. BRO, that was bad, but I haven't noticed it too much on LFR. Maybe I've grown used to it, I don't know.
All right, after much photo searching I think I've worked it out. Passenger coaches are usually just about symmetrical- but the main bus breaker box is only on one side, and that one is always the "right." (Confusingly, it's the one LD calls "left")
Alright, "orgy" might have been an exaggeration. But it is bad, I´ve got some kind of ´double stutters´ which don´t hit only fps but also audio. And that´s pretty annoying. On most of the german routes, especially the earlier ones, the PS5 runs through like a hot knife through butter. And yes, BRO is pretty bad as well.
Question for our DB-knowledgeable posters: Can someone explain the changeover of ownership markings, from "Heimatbahnhof" plaques (Ozeanblau era and before) to "GB Traktion" (roughly, Orientrot era) to "DB Fernverkehr" (2003-present)? I would venture it's connected to the 1994 and 1999 railway acts, and apparently also to changing UIC rules (that was the addition of "D DB" to the road number, for example).
Actually, it does use DC motors. Very old locomotives (the ones with one huge traction motor per bogie, instead of a smaller one per axle) used the transformed but still AC power directly in the motors, taking advantage of the fact that a series-wound motor doesn't care which polarity the voltage is applied, only which way the field current is oriented relative to the armature current - and this is why traction power on German and Swiss railways is at a very low frequency, 16.67Hz, one-third of the normal mains frequency. Railway substations basically ran motor-alternators, taking in 50Hz mains power from all three grid phases and spitting out single-phase 16.67Hz power for the railway, and that is why these railways also have no "neutral sections" to change from one grid phase to the next. Nowadays it's done with solid-state electronics. As soon as silicon rectifier diodes became available and reliable enough for railway use, AC electric locomotives started using them to supply DC power to their motors. This avoids the extra work of reversing the current in the very inductive field windings. Consequently, railways which adopted AC electrification after that time (basically circa 1960) tend to use normal mains frequency (50 or 60Hz instead of one-third those figures). There was a rather brief period when locomotives tried using mercury-arc rectifiers instead, but those proved too physically fragile for railway use. (See the AL1-AL5 Pilot Scheme locos in British practice, from which the Class 86, originally AL6, was derived.) The 110 and 103 are both new enough to use rectified power to their motors, the rectifier being inserted after the multi-tap transformer that regulates the voltage.
It's really bad. I also gotten used to the stutters but this is really over the top stuttering. In most cases you ignore stutters when it's noticeable why there is a stutter like a lot of traffic and assets. But here it's every time at the same spot and nothing in the vicinity looks like its memory extensive. There is a big stutter around one of the churches on the line. Maybe that church is packed with NPC's?
But that is just a guess by yourself? The 103 and 110 (and others from the series) do not use DC motors at all. There are no rectifiers for traction motors, only for aux systems. 103 uses WB 368/17f motors.
I just had an amusing vision of a locomotive being built with tube rectification, like an old radio. Presumably with 20-foot-tall rectifier tubes sticking out of the roof (helps with cooling....)
Whether or not a rectifier is actually used, the series-wound motor is sometimes called a "universal motor" due to its ability to operate correctly on (sufficiently low frequency) AC power as well as DC. So it's the same type of traction motor that is referred to as a "DC motor" in modern parlance. Technically a shunt-wound or compound-wound motor also fits this description, but the frequency limit for those would be considerably lower, due to the much higher inductance and impedance of the shunt field winding relative to the series field winding. So these motors are not referred to as "universal" since it isn't practical to supply AC power at such a low frequency. Even 16Hz is really pushing it for building practical transformers.
Yeah, maybe i have to be more precise, i meant that the 103s and the 110s and all the other 1xx from the 60s are not using DC power on their traction motors. Yes, they are universal motors that can use AC and DC. But in these locos they never used DC.
Any comments or suggestions before I pronounce this one done and go finish the Steuerwagen? (In particular, my intention is to represent a coach in 1992, which had not yet received a mint repaint (as many had not) but which would have been carrying contemporary markings- I fear in some cases following photos from the 70s-80s I may have some anachronisms)
Really good! Brings back memories, which were not all that nice;-) Those weathering effects look particularly convincing, I must say! Quite impressed that this is possible with the editor…
Unfortunately I can't do anything with the interior, which was revamped with the Mintling repaint. But I went ahead and marked it as a Bnrz 725, which is what the 451s were rebuilt from in the mid-90s. _____________ In particular, as much fun as I had making the "Heimatbahnhof" plates, I'm not sure when those were replaced with "GB Traktion." I'm also not sure when DB changed from the old to the new abbreviations for Ausbesserungswerke.
More questions about kennlicht usage! I got to hang around LFR in real life yesterday and realized that kennlicht is much more widely used thing than I initially thought. Are there any other major use cases than a junction in platform? I'm sad that this is not simulated correctly in TSW (although we get that one KL in Oberwesel). Situation in Mainz in TSW vs reality where on second signal is kennlicht. Unfortunately I don't think we can get some playful advanced signalling when the current development team is incapable of setting even the most basic signalling to place. (Yes, that is a green right into another train. Should be Hp2, of course.) Would the TSW variant be in theory still correct usage? The first signal does have Vr board (irl as well), so I guess there is no reason why not? A different usage I saw was in MZ-Kastel, although the decision for its placement is not very clear to me. On the other tracks, Zsigs are placed before the crossing which makes sense, but on the main track it is only behind the crossing. When the path is set to end in the station (or the crossing is open and so the rest of the path cannot be locked in), it shows KL+Vr0 VKB. After the crossing closes, it goes to Hp1 and whatever Vr without the VKB light, so I assume that the signal at the end of the station track goes to KL instead. Why would such configuration be chosen, instead of just a Vr repeater? To fit two trains on the track? If the exit from the station required Hp2, would it be shown already on the first signal (and then you would have to have snail next 600m just 40 km/h)? I assume not, as the bottom light on the signal board was used for KL instead. Are there any rules for from what distance both signals would be turned on into full aspects? In the end, we have various routes in TSW where signals in some stations are placed within 600-900 meters from each other (if ingame hectometers can be trusted) and they are always all turned on. Is this actually all wrong and would be different in reality, ie. having only one signal serve as Asig (closest to platform or closest to diverging junction I suppose) and turning off all the others along the way?
Regarding your first question. The question would be if there is an operational need for the dispatcher to ever lay a route (question to the more English knowledge people, what is the proper translation for „fahrstrasse legen“, lay a route, pull a track? I am genuinely interested to know). The answer in all instances I know would be no, hence the signal box would be designed as explained further up, using a long or short exit (and Kennlicht). If there would be an operational need, DB would find a way to make it possible under exceptional rules. Exceptions are everywhere on German railways But in this example, and in case the dispatcher would ever need to allow a trim to go from the first signal to the second signal, he would probably use Sh1 on the first signal. BTW, I don’t think that the DTG developers are not capable to build this, I just don’t think it is a priority for them, as the general user of TSW would simply not know what it would mean and would therefore not care. We would, however, we still spend the money for DTGs products To your second example, I am afraid we have to learn a new term: “Halbregelabstand“. It’s now widely used, but Mainz Kastel uses it nowadays. As I am writing this on my phone and in order to spare me writing it all here and you reading it with all the to be expected writing errors, I would direct you to the wiki article, which explains it with some nice illustrations as well. https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halbregelabstand For all non German speaker that are interested, we can discuss in more detail, just let me know. And to your very last point. Signal distance in Germany is basically related to the maximum speed of the route. The standard is 400m, 700m and 1000m. It’s a bit more complicated then this, but in general, yes, it is realistic that signals, especially in main station areas are placed in shorter distances, as the speed would be reduced anyway.
I am stunned and amazed that I very randomly stumbled upon such rarity on one of my first trips after german trains (and that you right away knew what it is)
The usual terminology in English is to "set a route". On the modern type of panel it is done by selecting the entry, then exit, signals (or markers substituting for signals), hence the term NX or "Entry-Exit" panel. There are of course some subtleties when you get into the technical details of how the signalling operates behind the scenes, and in those cases you might hear different verbs used (eg. "call" or "clear"). Mostly those are details of how the automatic systems in modern panels assist the signalman, while what the signalman himself does is "route setting". In old mechanical boxes there are the separate actions of setting the route (moving and locking points) and clearing signals (which are interlocked with the point levers).
Well, I went and finished the Steuerwagen There were still quite a lot of these around in the 90s, and some never got mint green, they went straight to red after '97.
Very atmospheric shot. Looks like it’s ripped from a train picture book Thanks a bunch for your continued sharing of your knowledge. German signalling is amazingly complex
What can I say? This is absolutely stunning, I don't normally have an opinion on German liveries but my IC 79 coaches and this are the only exceptions, this looks banging, hope you release this on CC if possible
Really nice! And I am being a very selfish PC user and would wish for someone to use this livery and make a mod to have them spawn randomly on LFR
I’m thinking of maybe trying my hand on some vintage scenarios, perhaps for RSN? We’ll see - don’t have a lot of experience creating content. Still shy a proper freight loco for the time period though.
These were also common on an early 2000s Marklin Model Railroad Catalog alongside the Dispolok Baureihe 182 and DB BR101 Werebeloks. That includes the DB BR110 DLC Knallfrosch DB BR141. Is this paint scheme still part of the Produktfarben era or not?
But was still often seen; a railway as big as DB needs a long time to get thousands of vehicles repainted!
Thank you very much for sharing those with us! Can't wait to try them later, childhood memories of trains with 3 different liveries on coaches and locos here we come
Keep it up and for this route where will trains be based at Heimatbahnhof and then the City. My guess will be Köln because Koblenz is under BD Köln which is also written on the locosides. That can also be seen in the loco itself the BD district its assigned to
I don't know if I"m the only one, but for me the bottom white marker lights on the n-Wagen cab car aren't turned on when the cab car is leading on AI trains. This wasn't an issue before the most recent patch I believe. I have been playing the route more and more now some of the bugs are fixed. The missing speed reduction warning sign (Lf 6 IIRC), is still a bit annoying though. There are some other things I would like to see, such as more shipping and some DLC to increase the locomotive and coach variety more, but the route has now reached a point where I would definetely reccomend it. The scenery is great, and the timetable really offers a lot of variation (albeit with the wrong rolling stock here and there) and challenge.
Look great! Yes, they were still around n the 90s, there generally was quite a colour mix on German tracks. That picture brings back so many memories of German commuting of that era. I think everyone around at that time will remember the iconic red faux-leather interior and the typical n-Wagen smell... I think you know this of course, but there was an earlier version of the Silberling Steuerwagen with two orange stripes (still around in the 90s in some places) and also the very interesting City-Bahn variant.
I'm working on the orange-stripe version as we speak! Unfortunately, there are no appropriate routes in the game so far for a City-Bahn.
Only too well. When I was a kid, our local used either n-Wagen (boo!) or Umbaue (yay! much more comfortable)
The n-Wagen liveries look great. However, I still want to make some BR 110 liveries aswell, but in the livery editor it doesn't let you place any decals and the likes further than about halfway down on the loco, making liveries impossible..
City Bahn might be similar to the S-Bahn Linke Rheinstrecke S8/S9 Wiesbaden-Mainz-Frankfurt am Main Hbf via Airport Regional station. Provided Linke Rheinstrecke has the Frankfurt Hbf segment Built another possibility is the HMA Bundesbahn Munich directorate. Other possibilities are HRR and RRO Bundesbahn Directorates Essen and Köln.
The City-Bahnen were not very widespread nor long-lived. Aggertalbahn (Köln-Gummersbach - li150special's second pic), Niederelbebahn (Hamburg-Stade), and around Hanover and in the Saarland, and only from 1985-1995., when they all became Regiobahnen.
Very interesting ! Thanks. I didn't know why 16,67Hz was chosen. Not having neutral sections also is great !
Here you go: Sorry it took so long; LD does not like wrapping patterns around curved surfaces (basically, it can't do it). I've made two variants, one with the original black (actually dark gray) frame and markings, and another with Ozeanblau. There were al ot of 460s with orange stripes and blue frames rather than the full blue and ivory cab; I can only guess why but it may have been one or both of Just painting the frame was quick, easy, and most importantly fit into the Silberling repaint schedule, whereas a full cab paintjob took longer and kept the unit out of service longer. Orange may have denoted S-Bahn service (all the 740s were originally on S-Bahnen, the first push-pull trains in DB service, and orange remained the distinctive S-Bahn color right through the Produktfarben era), whereas the cab repaints were for regional trains
You have absolutely no reason to apologise. I'm incredibly grateful that you're sharing your hard work with us! The result is definitely amazing
Great work! Do AI Trains also use this liveries or ist it player only? I‘ve discovered that the Br 110 does use custom liveries for AI services, which is quite nice because it adds more variety to this track, but Br 103 doesn’t. That’s the reason I ask.
