It "was supposed" to be the next US route release, probably out in either December or January, but the licensing issues have put it out on hiatus until its fixed. Which we don't know if or when that will happen. Hence why DTG announced the Metrolink San Bernardino line, which was already planned, but had to be announced early due to the issues currently surrounding the LIRR route. It also wouldn't surprise me if the US loco DLC that got removed from the roadmap was something like the DM30AC, but removed ATM due to uncertainty with the LIRR route. US content right now is kind of in a drought on TSW, and who knows when the weather will part....
The Only way diesel would ever happen if they end up doing the oyster bay line from Mineola or to Port Jefferson from Huntington but an extension from Hicksville would be required
Is it not peculiar that in the current Spring Sale where virtually all of the TSW catalogue is discounted, the LIRR route and LIRR M3 loco remain at full price? If the new LIRR is a standalone product separate from the original, would they not be selling the original cheap with everything else? It kinda gives the impression the new version will replace the old like SEHS Extended with current owners getting the updated version free so they are holding off putting the old on sale to maximize profit from new purchasers. DW
I was wondering the same thing, I bought the Harlem DLC and was looking at LIRR and saw it remained full price so passed, after reading this thread I can see why
No, it's not going to be a free upgrade. It has a separate Steam Depot, Separate achievements, and separate scenarios for the M3. Owning the previous route might possibly give a discount, but it's 100% a separate product.
They probably just want to discourage people from buying LIRR then being unhappy when LIRR2 is announced.
Yeah I wondered about that too. Ah, ok. It just struck me as odd the way the two LIRR add-ons and the latest four routes released were among few things not discounted. DW
That is a very good point, I splurged during the discount and got the Salzburg - Rosenheim Route Add-On (not discounted but read so many good things about it), Harlem and Sherman Hill routes and BR193 Vectron, DB BR101, so I might wait a bit and then pick them up but more than likely I will get Berninalinie first then those two
If this route is considered "separate" I wonder what that would mean for the LIRR layers on NY-T? Right now those layers get activated for owners of the old LIRR. If the new LIRR is a separate install would it also activate the layers? Can it even work that way, or would both the old and new LIRR need to be installed? Some people who buy the new LIRR might not own the old one and some people that own the old one might not buy the new one. Having it as a "upgrade" to the old route is probably the simplest distribution but I also understand that if DTG dumped the time and effort of an entire new route into it they probably want to make some money from it.
Small segment of it is the Babylon branch basically they got the fruit extended to Long Beach and Grand Central
Spot on and if you wanted to run on the Harlem Line change the shoe type otherwise you will be powered locked
I hope they can add the Port Washington branch by the future, will b a relief & a record breaking add on stations, 51 or 53 with a Babylon branch station: Rockville Centre. It also potentially over 1k services (the first ever American route on TSW to reach that number).
Whut? a little dumb right? But okay if the mods have no problems with it...... There is here on the forums a normal letterype and when every user will takes this kind of writing it will be a big mess in my opion....
Nice example: This should not be happen So black bold is okay but Green and all other are not? Thats a strange rule i think and what is the line?
I’m super happy to hear about this extension. I was hoping points east of Hicksville would be added. Given that the Long Beach branch is said to be added, I’d say including the 3 extra stations to Huntington past Hicksville would make it a much more complete LIRR extension since Huntington is one of the eastern termini for EMU’s (and it’s a short length past Hicksville). I’m still hoping they implement this section for the LIRR 2.0. Additionally, hoping for some updated track joint sounds on the trains as well.
Yeah not extending to Huntington is extremely nonsensical considering it’s only 3 stops way and is an actual terminal at for electric trains
I think they will add those two branches because they make up a combined <10 miles. You just don't want to title the route "New York - Long Beach, Far Rockaway, Hempstead, West Hempstead, and Hicksville" when it was only "New York - Hicksville" the first time, even though Hempstead was included. Likely they are using "Hempstead" as an umbrella term for both branches this time because they didn't include it in the name last time, and since Far Rockaway is in New York City itself, they can cut that out from the name too. The other things I hope to see in the route are: - Grand Central Madison, accompanied by Elmont-UBS Arena station and the 3rd track on the Main Line, and - East Williston, one of the 2 new stations (St. Albans was the other) in the TSC version of the game. It would also add a lot of variety if they ever add DEs/DMs with C3s because there's only one electric train that goes there.
Extreme optimism here! I do think Grand Central Madison is very likely though, since the line there is pretty much entirely in tunnel and therefore presumably fairly easy to build.
I mean, I'm a New Yorker so it's only natural I want this route to be as big as possible. With that said, I hope East Williston isn't too optimistic (because of its TSC presence), and I'm certain we're getting at least St. Albans since that M9 is on the flyover to the Babylon (and by extension West Hempstead) branch. But also Atlantic service would become extremely dry without West Hempstead and Far Rockaway, because West Hempstead and Jamaica shuttles are the only trains serving that line outside of peak hours, and there are 4 peak-hour Far Rockaway trains to Atlantic (2711, 2713, 2717, and 2723) and 2 from Atlantic (2714 and 2762). Aside from that, there will only be one Long Beach to Atlantic train (815) with no reverses, 3 from Atlantic to Hempstead (756, 762, and 772) with 2 reverses (721 and 727), one Atlantic to Lynbrook via St. Albans (284) and one reverse (215), and no trains to/from Hicksville.
But then again whoever made the promotional image could just have been looking for a striking image - after all, last DLC (Fife Circle) the promotional image featured a train on a line under the Forth Bridge that does not and has never existed... I don't see why those services couldn't be playable on the sections that are modelled in the game and then go off-map as AI.
I honestly hope that with the delay of the “confirmed” LIRR route, Dovetail is working all the kinks out, especially with the signaling issues. Additionally, I hope that Grand Central is part of the update as there are many services that do terminate there.
I hope for this too, but most likely it's shelved and DTG is instead working on the LA to San Bernardino line.
True, but they added St. Albans and East Williston in the TSC version of the route, and in the TSW version the track was laid all the way there and then some. If they turned the West Hempstead services into Jamaica shuttles they'd kill anything interesting on the Atlantic Branch.
Outside of 12 services maximum (out of 163 daily), the only playable services on that branch would be shuttles to Jamaica if at least St. Albans isn't included. Like before GCM, there was actual variety on that branch because it would be regularly served by many other branches as well (very common sights were Hempstead and Far Rockaway, and the original DLC timetable corroborates the former).
Guys I do have some good news. Keep on eye on the 9th. There was a confirmation from JD and in his words "This months roadmap is going to make a lot of people happy" we could see an announcement soo
They'll probably reveal every content in the 4-6 months section. 1 route, 2 locomotive DLC. To these, a further DLC (BR 104?) and probably LIRR. The leak would leave no doubt.
Exciting. LIRR was one of my favourite DLC despite its shortcomings. This could be a day one buy for me.
With the amount of time the LIRR has been on hold, I think more than enough time is provided to ensure the route is fully polished and free of bugs as possible. Hopefully this route runs well and looks great and is as busy as the LIRR we see in real life
I'm reluctant to get my hopes up. With TSW I've become a Missourian; Show Me or I'll believe it when I see it.
I really think the title of this thread needs changing by the OP to, “Are we getting LIRR V2?” or similar, as it kind of indicates we are when there is no certainty whatsoever.
Agreed. I presumed it had been formally announced, until I read through. If they do it, I hope it's an upgrade for those of us who already own the route.
Even disregarding the leak itself, it’s obvious a version 2 is coming. For one thing the M3* has had its radial motion blur removed from the wheels as well as a couple other tiny updates I’ve noticed. Audio from in-cab signaling now comes through the controller speaker on PlayStation, a feature wholly unique to TSW 4… I personally am fully confident another version of LIRR will come to TSW. I fail to see the practicality of arbitrarily updating the M3 to current standards if not being done in preparation for an upgrade in the near future. *Strangely the M7 remains as it was pre-TSW 4. All noticeable changes have been made strictly for the M3.
