Upcoming Release Lirr Commuter: New York - Long Beach, Hempstead & Hicksville

so since it's not planned I don't have the right to ask, is that it?
but seriously we can ask without being insulted or not?
regarding the melting of your processor these are your problem not mine

 

You have not read the licensing agreement; by definition you cannot "understand" it.

 

I've never read whichever law says I can't murder people, but I still "understand" it.

 

I guarantee you that you don't know homicide law well enough to give an informed opinion on whether or not a specific case violates it.

 

The Xbox Series S should be canceled
Because Even the Series X Works so terrible DTG Matt
The Textures always flickering since the Rush Hour Update Years ago and Texturen Are blurred inside and Outside the Train

 

I have a question, I'm a bit annoyed with the fact that DTG have said due to performance issues Gen 8 consoles including Xbox Series s will get a reduced timetable, but Xbox Series s is a gen 9 console not as powerful as the Series X, but i have London Commuter which has over 1,400 services and i have no issues regarding performance, i play SEHS full timetable and New York to Trenton full timetable again with no performance issues, and still charging £29.99 for over half of the services cut because of performance issues. I'm not happy they need to do what they did with SEHS and New York to Trenton and include 2 service modes Full Timetable and a reduced timetable so players can have the option reduced or full timetables. It would be nice to get some feedback as to what other players think.
THANKS

 

Think you should have bought a Series X instead.

 

I understand it very well we all understand it.

 

Not really the answer i was looking for, maybe some people can't afford the Series X like you can, as your simple answer is get a Series X. I was very detailed in my description with regards to performance. Thanks for your simple answer

 

Sorry but you did ask what other users think. And thatbwas my 1st thought.

But I blame MS for releasing that system. If you looked up the specs that RAM difference was a big red flag to me.

Since graphics processers usually require more RAM the better they are.

The fact it is really a Gen 8.75 and not a Gen 9 as they advertised it to was pretty shady to me and I said that since day 1.

The Series S is already holding the X back in the game enough graphics wise. I'm glad it won't timetable wise.

Matt explains the problems with the Series S here.

https://forums.dovetailgames.com/threads/psa-a-dire-lack-of-mountains-on-xsx.79884/#post-813651

 

It's not just about there's a 1000 services and it runs just fine. There are other things that eat memory such as the trains themselves, the amount of traffic which adds up if the trains are resource heavy to begin with. Also I've noticed tsw3 and newer routes tend to use much more memory by default which doesn't help when the series s has little ram to begin with.

 

I've never ever bought a diet version of a console ever, namely because this exact situation, it might take longer to save up but it always better in the long run........

 

Thank you for at least trying, hopefully they say yes!!

 

i wish it would extend to Ronkonkoma or Greenport and having the DE/DM30ACs with C3 bilevel cars and cab cars

 

London Commuter is also a very busy route you have the 377, 378, 375 ,465 , 66, and the 166 so a lot of trains and traffic and it runs perfectly also you have 6 different rolling stock on London Commuter but only 3 on LIRR so I can't see what the problem is

 

Simple. Either the m7 or m9 is using a lot of memory. Multiply that by the total # of services. You are looking at performance issues. There's also other factors like penn station, yards and all the other stuff going on the map that also all use performance. It's also a reason why new york-trenton had such poor performance when the new timetable got created. The njt bilevels were using up a ton of memory, causing all the issues. Like I said, every route and train is built differently and you won't get identical performance or memory usage.

 

Maybe it's the safety systems. ACES is alot more complicated than UK safety systems perhaps that uses up more memory.

The next issue Series S is going to have is TFLOP's. It only has 4 the Xbox One X had 6 and the Series X has 12. PS5 has 10.

So there will be more woes for Series S players in the future I'm sure.

 

My series x works fine even on a full timetable sometimes there's a tiny bit of stutter but nothing major overall it runs perfectly

 

What if you use the MP15 from Caltrain and convert it into a LIRR MP15-AC in future to represent the freight services if you can’t get the license for NY&A. That was just a idea I had I know some people would probably not like that idea.

 

This is the 190th anniversary of the LIRR now Matt! Can u rethink about the extended to/from Port Washington, a third track east of FP into Hicksville, 2 new stations @ UBS & GCM, and southern terminal of the Jamaica station by the future?

 

It's unlikely they will revisit the route to add it.
It's pretty much been finalised for a while now. It's all going to have been polish since around the time they actually acknowledged it was in development. Usually this kind of timetable revision isn't something you see until somewhat later down the line revisiting an older route..
It's generally only when a new route releases in an absolute state, like New York-Trenton, that they go back and listen to player demands and revise the timetable to that kind of degree.

In the case of needing licensing deals they don't have, you'd need to wait until the route maybe gets revisited in the future *after* there's another route releases with the requisite freight carrier.

 

Hello, I live on Long Island, and know the Long Island Railroad very well. I’m looking forward to this route, no one thought you guys would actually remake the route, or even try. I’ve looked at all the information and photos and it looks stellar for what I’ve seen, the M7 looks a lot better, the M9 is fire, and this is really good route. I can tell you put in a lot of effort on this one, and, as not only can I not wait to drive the M7 and new M9, but I can’t wait to try out the conductor/brakeman mode! The one thing that aggravates me is that you did not include Grand Central Madison, Elmont-UBS Arena, and Third Track, and then you guys try to cover it up by saying it’s from 2021. Yeah, no, your just to lazy to add a third track and make GCM, really all it is is some tunnels and a some platforms, not hard, and Elmont is one station! A lot of trains on all 3 of the main line branches (especially during non-rush hours!!) stop there. Not to forgot, your only including the Long Beach Branch, which out of the Far Rockaway, West Hempstead, and LB branches, is the best and most scenic, but, it’s a smaller branch and is not enough, and, it would add a lot of variety to either in addition include the Babylon Branch to Freeport, Wantagh, or Massapequa (I’m not gonna push my luck with Babylon or Patchogue), or the Ronkonkoma Branch to Ronkonkoma, and you could also just add in East Williston, which was included in the TSC version. Those things would make the route a lot better and really make this route a truly one-of a kind US Route. Anyways, guys stop telling them to release it for free, as much as I own the original LIRR route and can’t believe your only giving us a 30% discount (not for Xbox players, which I am so I get no discount). This is a good route and you guys should get money for the good work put in, but, I think you really need to fix the discount issue. One more thing, can you release the timetables?

 

I still want to know why, this reworked dlc still doesn't have the double decker diesel services til this day...First it was told not enough material...And now still no double Deckers diesel service....Now we back to having Hunterspoint Av and LI City ghost town...smfh...Whats the excuse this time?? And they def could've added East Willinston like TSC just for that...

 

Maybe they just don't or can't get access to it or mta might be restrictive about it who knows

 

Lazy isn't going to do you or them any good. Game development is complex and long. You can't always have everything

 

To be blunt, even though I love the DE30ACs (as you can probably tell by my PFP,) and would like to see them in game, they don’t really have a use for this route. They didn’t add any non electrified areas, so there’s no need to run them there. Also, there’s not really an economic incentive either, as they won’t be able to reuse the models on any other routes besides this one, as the DE30AC/DM30AC and C3 passenger cars were only built for the LIRR, and no one else.

 

The DM30 could come as an extension if DTG ever figures out how to do that

 

As in "can't run above 20 mph" problems.

 

Glances in the direction of the M3 services on the existing LIRR

 

sad there are less services on the Xbox series s

 

The old version of the LIRR was the only route I never purchased on PS5 with this new version I'm glad I didn't

 

Will there be any freight cars in the yards or on the track sidings

 

I also love the C3’s, they’re my favorite coaches ever and I live in Long Island diesel territory on The Montauk Branch so there my home cars, and although the de/dms are not my favorite locomotives (GE Genesis series take #1) they’re one of my favorites. I probably am the C3 number one fan, but, to be honest it wouldn’t really make any sense to add them to Train Sim World, as only one route would make any sense to add as that being the Oyster Bay Branch, as the Port Jefferson Branch is just too complicated, and The Montauk Branch is way too long, even just to Patchogue, as far as the OB branch goes, as much as it would make sense, I just don’t see dovetail adding it and it wouldn’t make sense to add that equipment without them being able to operate in there own territory. A lot of people would find someway to complain by saying that the diesels don’t have enough services, when most of they’re services are scoots to/from Ronkonkoma, Babylon, & Huntington. The only decent branch would be the OB branch but that would still only be hourly service to/from Jamaica and Mineola, and that would be about it besides a couple of Port Jefferson- Jamaica trains or vice versa, as well as some of rush hour extended trains to HPA/LIC and 2 to Penn Station, and they’re are only 3 rush hour Montauk branch trains that makes stops in Hicksville and/or Mineola, so, really they’re wouldn’t be a lot and it wouldn’t make sense since these diesels only stop at a few of the stations on the route, with a lot of the PJ trains even skipping Mineola. So, as good as those trains are, it wouldn’t be practical to add them and hopefully they can be made somewhere else ( maybe I will). As far as HPA goes, they should add a scenario, though that’s really about it for what they can do, they’re are two timetable services w/electric trains that terminate there, one from Huntington in the morning, and one to Ronkonkoma in the evening, that’s pretty much it. I’m looking forward to seeing the preview in a few hours.

 

Ironically, I am quite glad I will still have the old one on hand to play in TSW2.

 

train#9352, could you please give your honest opinion following tonight’s stream if you watched it. If not then following the release. It’s always good to hear what someone local thinks of a route they know so well, like me with the WCL!!

 

Will the destination display work on the m7

 

yes

 

There are some noticeable improvements compared to the original. I do like the new PIS and the M9 does look rather nice. But I did notice alot of assets were reused in some areas. The platforms at Penn Station in particular just doesn't look like how it is in real life which is a shame. East New York Station is too bright and looks odd because of it. But I did like the look of the Long Beach Branch and I did like the new timetable although it should've been like that when the route originally came out.

I don't understand why the NJT and Amtrak stock are only static and don't move at penn station. Kinda hurts the immersion for me

The original lirr shouldn't have released the way it did and with the route not including areas such as Grand Central Madison, the third track and only 1 new branch line this seems like something I would get in a sale.

Whilst I do like the idea of older routes getting improvements, charging $40 for a route that I already own that they modeled incorrectly in many respects just to get improvements to an already existing product is a business practice I can't support.

I still think $20-25 would've been a more fair price.

 

I always thought the original had the potential to be the best US route in TSW but with its poor timetable it became a route I uninstalled and never touched. This is definately an improvement. It seems so busy and alive now, it looks great with the TOD4 lighting, I like the new M9. The PIS looked good. It is a good network of lines offering quite a variety.

It was good hearing Brandon talking about the work which has gone into the route, especially the signalling, I love his enthusiasm.

The only negatives for me were what looked some strange lighting effects at one of the stations on the Atlantic Terminal line, some of the tunnels seem a little bright, something confirmed by Brandon and St. Albans appearing as St on the internal PIS.

I will be purchasing it on release, I will get a lot out of it.

 

I'm assuming the throttle for the M7 is less stiff like in Harlem?

 

How does this Loyalty upgrade even work? I have Classic TSW, and I own the LIRR pack in that, but I own TSW4 too, I never got the origina LIRR upgraded to TSW4 Compatible pack, and this new version doesnt show a loyalty discount.

How does this work?

 

Yes, it’s a very large improvement. The old route had a great deal of potential, but due to a crummy timetable with fake trains, a broken and outdated safety system as well as other problems, the route was right above the line of playable and really isn’t fun to play even for someone who lives near the railroad such as myself. This route, however, is a lot better, which from watching most of the stream (haven’t finished yet) has a very very good timetable very accurate to the old timetables) the ones which are being modeled), and has been upgraded with many more trains which makes Jamaica Station more like a busy transit hub instead of a ghost town. There were also station improvements for stations like Penn Station & Atlantic Terminal, with them actually getting very good lighting and the M9 is total fire as well as the M7 having much needed upgrades. I can tell your trying to figure out weather to purchase this route or not and so far I recommend this route but once I get to actually try it for myself I’ll be able to tell you weather or not it’s truly worth it or not but so far it’s very good.

 

My only real negative would be that they’re should of been an extension to Freeport or Ronkonkoma in addition to Long Beach, and that they’re should be ASI which apparently will be fixed.

 

Apparently an easy fix which could be done by release- the period ("full stop") after St apparently causes the PIS subroutine to, well, stop at that point. Delete the period, it should be good.

 

Loyalty discount is only for steam pc players

 

I am actually glad to see how well this route actually looks. I’m going to consider a pre-order but haven’t decided yet. The stream really does a good job of showing the product.

 

when do pre-orders have chance to play

 

It's without freight. So it is not so much authentic. I will wait for the San Bernardino Line.