So I have that problem too. I believe the speed limits are correct. However, this is due to the absolutely poor and unrealistic acceleration of the train. This is so slow that I can't keep to the timetable.
Despite extreme scepticism I bought this in the sale and actually glad I did. There’s probably loads of issues the more discerning German virtual drivers will pick up on and I agree the 642 leaves much to be desired in the sound and physics department. However on my first proper run even in Journey I got a 612 spawn instead which was nice. The main event however is running the new TSG 218 along there on its timetabled services. Great fun thrashing across a relatively fast single track secondary line. It’s no Blackpool Branches or Niddertalbahn but no way as bad as I’d been led to believe and not a “Vern reaching for the refund button” job either. DTG probably need to bung TSG 1000 Euros and get them to polish up the route and train…
I also picked it up in the sale. Nice little line to run down, also glad to see I wasn't going mad thinking how sluggish the 642 feels. Here's hoping for a patch to fix it (although the route has been out since November so that isn't looking likely). Typical DTG (even if it's TSG that made the route and loco, DTG allow these developers to release on their platform and they should be upholding standards and not allowing the third-party devs to shy away and do nothing). EDIT: If feedback is needed, then the acceleration is far, far too sluggish. Even as a non-driver it feels obvious the acceleration model is wrong here. The train is absolutely gutless above 60-70km/h. The level of acceleration you get there is probably what we should be getting as we pass 110km/h. In addition, the brakes seem far too effective. Even the slightest brake application produces a larger amount of decel than expected, making it difficult to just maintain a speed on a decline. The brake effectiveness is even more prominent on an emergency brake application - this things stops far too quickly. It's honestly almost to truck-like deceleration, far too fast for a train. EDIT 2: Isn't the 642 supposed to be available as a substitution on Dresden-Chemenitz? It's not available for me. PC, Steam. EDIT 3: Why are the PZB indicator lights so dim in normal operation? When you run the light test they all light up to the level you'd expect.
PZB is correct for this route, but often signals show "slow - green & yellow" wich normally means 40 km/h but in western germany often also 50 or 60 km/h. This is normally written in the timetable (Buchfahrplan) but we have none...
I think so many people have already written here that the acceleration is very bad. To date nothing has changed. Not even with the last update. Disappointing! Regarding the brakes: They really are that strong. I experienced this live myself. A colleague of mine drives this series, unfortunately I don't. Strange, the 642 doesn't appear in my timetable either.
I’m getting better and better with German signalling and actually quite like it! Yellow / Green I always thought was 40 km/h. But then I did read it could mean 60 km/h which would tally with the “track speed” on the HUD. But it’s hard to know when it applies!
You can find most (not all) timetables aka Buchfahrplan here: https://rail-sim.de/forum/filebase/filebase/1751-buchfahrpläne/
One of the slight annoyances in TSW is that the HUD shows the speed limit from the track location when in fact it should be enforced from the home signal, as in Zusi or TSC. I always adhere to that as part of trying to drive professionally but DTG ought to sort it.
Ah thank you so much, I didn't think to try that. This is a massive help I'll keep my fingers crossed for a performance update on the 642. Other than the awful acceleration, the unit seems quite nice. The sounds are good to my ear, you can hear the gearbox running through the gears etc, and the view is good. I think if/when the power is fixed, this will be a very nice route to just bimble along on. I keep running the 612 as a sub, although that has its own problems with how frustrating it is to use that type of power controller with a keyboard
Service EZK 54874 starting at 14:47 in Aschaffenburg Hafen is still broken, in the new timetable as well as in the old. Same issue: I'm prepping my 363, shunt forward, go all the way through the staging area to just outside of the home signal. The signal lets me back in (Hp 0 / Sh 1). I move back and pick up the first couple of container wagons. So far, so good. Next I take the wagons out in front of the home signal too. Signal lets me back in (Hp 2 and Sh 1 this time) and I start pushing back. As soon as the first (rearmost) wagon passes the signal, the signal shuts and the service is automatically failed.
Hi, I wouldn't have too many expectations on a performance fix for the 642. On the Harlem Line route I brought clues and proofs (official specs sheet, cabride video showing the TBC position, speed, in-cab screens, etc.) that the M7A EMU, as reproduced in TSW, is far too sharp both in acceleration and braking to the point of it being ridiculous. I even sent to DTG a recap of a drive I did by capping myself the power and braking, that showed the schedule still was easily doable with a fixed M7A. Was it fixed ? No. It still behaves like a rocket. While I hope that any TSW rolling stock showing a clear difference in performance compared to the real one is going to be fixed, I do not have high expectations. I think that only the BR Class 166 Networker Turbo has been fixed to this day. The rolling stock in TSW is generally well-made and is close to how real trains behave. If you often drive locomotive-hauled trains with pneumatic braking in TSW (for example on the Northern Trans-Pennine) you won't have much trouble driving real trains afterwards as some TSW reflexes are close to real trains. That's a good proof of the general good quality of TSW train modeling as a whole. But, sometimes ... there is an unnerving lack of acknowledgment or will to fix those little issues that could bring TSW content close to perfection.
So I also pulled the trigger with the summer sale and bought the Maintalbahn DLC. I can confirm what I saw in gameplay videos and in previous feedbacks, that it is impossible to keep the schedule, even by ignoring standard safety practices such as reasonnable speed when arriving at a platform (60 km/h) or near a signal at danger. Either the schedule is too tight (I think a BR 423 would be just enough to keep it ), or the BR 642 lacks acceleration at higher speeds. And I noticed the Mg brakes always stick to the rails ? They should not touch the rail if not in emergency braking. And so to speak, braking feels really sharp, it brakes like a bus. Or more like a subway : I measured the max service braking deceleration at 1,25 m/s² from 90 to 30 km/h. Trains usually have a max service brake at around 0,9 to 1,1 m/s². The BR 423 for example has 0,9 m/s² of maximum service deceleration. I know that the Deutsche Bahn has a pretty high standard of performance for its rolling stock, but it's still a train with steel wheels on steel rails The Paris rubber-tyred subway has its braking capped at around 1,3 m/s², more would put people on the ground. So a service deceleration of 1,25 m/s² for the BR 642 ... is a big no ! As for stock sounds, I can't speak because I installed the BR 642 soundmod https://www.trainsimcommunity.com/m...nds/i4344-maintalbahn-br642-sound-replacement - which is good. I've yet to test the other trains that are available (612, 628, 218 ...). EDIT : I did try the BR218 on the RB88 service, it is quite enjoyable to drive and pretty easy to be on time. The scenery is good to have some immersion, not as much as the lovely Niddertalbahn though. Do I recommend Maintalbahn with its stock DMU ? I don't know. I you don't mind being late and you like single track routes, if you have other german routes which could layer on it and it's on sale it is worth a try. If you expect high fidelity/quality driving like Niddertalbahn, Blackpool/Preston or Goblin line (which all are very well made), maybe this version of Maintalbahn is not the route you are looking for !
Has anyone ever seen the 628 as AI traffic for Maintalbahn? While the 628 never seems to show, since the most recent update even the 612 now seems to appear less than before and is always nearly a 642 - although I did finally see a 218 as AI traffic which was good.
I've already seen both. But it depends on the time. Depending on the time, the trains appear more often or less often.
I've never encountered an AI 628 service ever, neither on the old timetable nor on the new. And I share the impression that with the new timetable, the 612 has become something of a rarity as well. It's about 60% of 642, 35% of 218 and 5% of 612 for me, roughly.
The 628 gets bugged sometimes for me, I know it comes with Niddertalbahn but since there isn't a feedback thread for that I thought I would post it here. 00:10: After trying to use reverser while the engine is still at a high RPM, the reverser gets stuck and unusable. 00:21: I reset simulation physics to try and fix it. 00:33: The reverser is fixed but now the train won't move at all, even when it is set up properly and the engine is working.
Interestingly, the longer I've been playing Maintalbahn again this week some 612s seem to start appearing again, albeit still not as frequent as before though - and still no 628 apart from a single unit parked in the sidings. On the subject of the 642, they seem to have completely replaced the 612 entirely on BRO in timetable mode.
Really? I haven't played on BRO since the update, but that would make me sad. For the life of me I can't imagine how the 642 could possibly keep up with the 612 timetable! The 218 with some Dosto's would have done a better job.
Indeed. I completed a 642 service to Oldenburg and it does seem to keep up with the timetable, thankfully.
I've since done some research... it seems that in reality these services have been done with 648 DMU's, so both the 612 and 642 are actually stand-ins for these. The 642 is much closer to the 648 in terms of size and speed though, so it actually does make more sense. In regards of the Bremen-Delmenhorst services, the rest of the route from Delmenhorst onwards is 80 km/h max, so the 612 would be overkill anyway. Regardless, still fun to fire up the 612 and make use of its speed capabilities for a change Back to topic: Did some more runs along the Maintalbahn, both with 628 and 218, and the AI-612 still appears very sparsely.
I enjoy the route very much, but I have two items for feedback: 1. the automatic brake application is very difficult for me. Almost impossible not to hit emergency by accident (controller, PS5). 2. I do not understand the speed restriction coming out of Miltenberg. There is a speed indicator Zs3 on the exit signal ("6"). Based on the German signalling rules, this 60 kph speed restriction should end after the interlocking. In the game, however, 60 kph is shown as maximum speed across the bridge until the place where the route gets dual track. From the other side, it is the same. Zs3 ("6") before the route becomes single-track, the speed restriction should end after that switch and line speed should apply.
Its a so called "Zwischensignal" (middle signal?). It tells you that you are still in the area of the station and speed restriction is valid until next signal. see here: https://www.tf-ausbildung.de/BahnInfo/weichenbereich.htm
There are many missing speed signs and distant speed signs in Aschaffenburg süd area. First northbound direction. It starts in Obernau, where is missign "10" Lf 6. Then there are (not missing) "10" Lf 7 with "8" Lf 6 - "8" Lf 7 - "10" Lf 7 - "9" Lf 6, but there is missing "9" Lf 7 before Aschaffenburg Hochschule. In the opposite direction, there is missing "10" Lf 7 after Aschaffenbugr Hochschule (next to the missing "9" Lf 7) and then there are missing "8" Lf 6 and "8" Lf 7 after Aschaffenburg Süd.
