Upcoming Release Master The Machine With Tsw3

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  1. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    I'm kind of surprised they didn't do GWE in this release and make the route rooted in either the present (800s, 345s etc) or the past (before OHLE) allowing much greater flexibility of use than "it's set in 2014 with partial OHLE, get over it"
     
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  2. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community Staff Member

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    So, Roadmap will go into more detail with this, but at the moment we've got positive feedback from our beta community and are looking at a pre-TSW3 launch for the TSW2 version. It will likely be TSW3's version comes soon after launch at this stage.
     
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    Roadmap tonight though?
     
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    If I recall correctly, GWE would pretty much need to be done from the ground up again as the signalling and safety systems is so broken.

    Also, it isn't just simply adding electrification. There have been loads of changes to stations, track layouts, signalling etc. So pretty much a new route in itself would be required for an updated GWE route.
     
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  5. DTG JD

    DTG JD Director of Community Staff Member

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    Two articles - Stream is Thursday, after both are published.
    (apologies for any confusion from the stream yesterday - that was recorded before we'd made the decision to split the Roadmap into two parts).
     
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  6. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Ah... OK
    So two roadmap articles, one roadmap talkie bit... Fair enough
     
  7. ARuscoe

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    From what they said of SEHS-3 they've redone OHLE, signalling, added TPWS, changed and reset track, rebuilt ebbsfleet, added in 6 stations...
    Hardly an inconsiderable job of work anyway

    But yeah, GWE would be a big task, as was SEHS-3 I am sure
     
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  8. OnlyMe1909

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    DTG JD I saw some confusion among people earlier in this thread. If one owns SEHS in TSW2, you will get the extended version in TSW3 right? Can you confirm this please?

    I have SEHS. I'm not interested in US Freight. I do want the extended SEHS and the new German route (SKW ??). So if I buy TSW3 German Starter pack, this would give me both SKW and the extended SEHS, correct?
     
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  9. ARuscoe

    ARuscoe Well-Known Member

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    Already been confirmed
    The TSW2 version of the route will NOT be coming to TSW3.
    If you own the TSW2 version of SEHS you will get the TSW3 version of SEHS in TSW3 no matter which version of TSW3 you buy, along with all the other "preserved TSW2 routes"
    This will happen on day one

    Same if you have Sprit of Steam. The TSW3 version of SoS has the new skies etc and you'll get this version on release if you have TSW2 version of SoS
     
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    Oh sorry about this.. but... Erm....

    "Southeastern High-Speed Extended (London – Ashford & Faversham) is Train Sim World’s first route extension, and adds length, depth, and activity to one of Train Sim World 2’s most popular routes."
     
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  11. solicitr

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    I can't be responsible for DTG's careless use of language. ;)
     
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  12. tallboy7648

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    GTA 4 and GTA 5 are completely different games and with different stories. The core of tsw3 is effectively the same. Not a valid point
     
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  13. djcwey

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    As @DadRail highlighted on his post announcement livestream the early access may(?) be a tactical ploy to capture to the younger section of the market? The Day One Release date coinciding with the end of school/college summer holidays?
     
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    What about preserved collection updates? Are they just being scrapped because TSW2 is now the old unwanted child?
     
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  15. solicitr

    solicitr Well-Known Member

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    All right then: Do you think owning FIFA 2021 entitles you to a free copy of FIFA 2023?
     
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    No: see the Roadmap.
     
  17. djcwey

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    Has been my bone of contention that the WSR Class 47 and Class 33 being the most appropriate to appear in those routes that have the railtour due to being fitted with a high intensity headlight.
     
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  18. junior hornet

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    Well, it’s official. According to the roadmap, it is an extension.

    Next controversy. They say it is the first extension. Therefore is the Meissen Branch not an extension given that it was added after Reisa Dresden was released, albeit not long after.
     
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    I'll be honest, that made me laugh ;)
     
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    General question, as there is going to be an improved service mode, I wonder if we will now receive red lights due to increase in services and also with the new seasonal feature, can we see delays in trains which ultimately delays us? I hope this doesn't upset people who like to be to the second when arriving at a station..
     
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    This may(?) apply to SEHS than other routes but I believe Southeastern run an Autumn Leaf Fall timetable between late September and early December. Journey times are marginally extended to allow smoother acceleration and braking when Rail Head conditions may adversely effect vehicle performance. Could this be linked to variable weather and the sparking feature?
     
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  22. ScottN

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    I hope headlight range is improved for lighting up the ground for the BNSF locomotives, but I doubt they did that
     
  23. bobbobberdd

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    Meissen and Dresden Airport have been in the game from the start. But they weren't finished when it was released
     
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  24. tallboy7648

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    Let's face it, sports games basically re release the same game year in year out. Do I even need to mention EA's bad business practices? The only reason why it happens is because consumers allowed the practice to thrive. Also considering how downhill the fifa games have gone, Im not interested in their games
     
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  25. demon#7085

    demon#7085 New Member

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    Fifa upgrade on xbox is free and most newer games giving free upgrade to next game.

    True is DTG couldn't care less about there players and dlcs should be priced at 9.99 on all platforms and tsw 3 priced at 5.99 like scssoftware does.
     
  26. J.T.

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    A few questions from me about what to expect TSW3 (apart from the plush dinosaurs):

    1. Will DTG fix the bugs and flaws reported by users for several years?

    2. Will passenger behaviour start to make some sense in relation to timetables?

    3. Will passengers finally learn to get off at the last stop, or will they continue to stay overnight at depots?

    4. Will station traffic start to depend on the size of the station and the time of day?

    5. Will there finally be train guards on passenger trains?

    6. Will fog finally also be visible at night?

    7. Will train headlights be visible, will they illuminate the surroundings and will trains stop running with end lights at the front?

    8. Will we get an editor that allows the community to fix the bad work of the DTG professionals and inject some life into the older routes? (No kidding, after five years the Sand Patch road crossing rebuild is surely over!!!)

    9. Maybe we'll finally get some decent manual from which we'll learn something more about the trains available in TSW, about the specifics of the routes they take, about signalling, something about how we can realistically replicate the driver's job in the simulator, why certain things on the railway are the way they are.... Things like that.
     
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  27. AtherianKing

    AtherianKing Well-Known Member

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    TSW3 isn’t an update it’s a game,
    Same way FIFA is a game and certainly not free at launch
     
  28. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    I would like to propose that for the sake of our future players that all further releases are free, DTG becomes an independent government funded software charity company paid for by DTGs own taxable wages and that work 90 hr weeks to ensure complete implementation of all TSC routes…

    would you be happy then, would you?

    Even then there be some self entitled island dwellers moaning they can’t press the button at the back of the train that even the drivers don’t know about.


    I wish we had a brutal moderator handing out bans to those that think peoples time is free because they’re not understanding it’s a new game. I referred back to kublars change curve and in the denial phase you will see many miles below it “stupid”
     
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  29. demon#7085

    demon#7085 New Member

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    How is it a new game only has new weather and only support 3 routes for 49.99 that a rip off.

    Euro Truck Simulator is currently on sale for 5.99 for main game and all dlcs are very cheap so you can pick main game and all dlc on steam for 40.00 pounds

    32.000 players playing on steam now.
     
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  30. demon#7085

    demon#7085 New Member

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    They still do rubbish quality routes and trains what a waste 90hours a week lol
     
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  31. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    Any constructive suggestions, or is this statement valid only as they’ve not built your favourite train or route?

    curious reader :D
     
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  32. demon#7085

    demon#7085 New Member

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    Wow in train sim World 3 we getting 7 extra miles Southeastern high speed route definitely not worth 49,99 and I want London to Brighton & east coastway to have new features and weather in tsw 3.
     
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  33. AtherianKing

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    Euro Truck Simulator according to google came out in 2008, many games do tend to drop down in price after 14ish years not before they have released

    GTA is never 5.99 at launch
    Call of Duty is never 5.99 at launch

    just to name very few of many
     
  34. demon#7085

    demon#7085 New Member

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    I mean euro Truck Simulator 2 currently at sale of 3.99 on steam and ats too
     
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    demon#7085 New Member

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    Scssoftware pricing dlc for both games at 9..99 and they games have better graphics then tsw 2/3
     
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    Somehow Flight Simulator manages to replicate every switch in the pilot's cockpit, including things that don't particularly affect the game, such as air-conditioning settings, cabin pressurisation, or even a stupid cup holder. It was done without EU subsidies and AFAIK no company went bankrupt because of it.

    The possibility to send a message to non-simulated cabin crew to e.g. take their seats because we are beginning take-off, added a lot of realism and fun to playing with the simulator. Unfortunately, no one has published how many millions of € it cost to reproduce the animated 'No Smoking ON' button or how much the rights to use the 'ping' sound cost.
     
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  37. chieflongshin

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    so… in regards to this statement your research led you to the tsw 3 page online where you’ve seen the route is 89 miles, you’ve then gone to the steam store to see that the current Sehs is 51miles (picture 1). Subtracting one from another you’ve made that “7 extra miles”. Nice complicated maths you’ve helped confuse us all with there (picture 2).

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    I personally make it 38 extra miles
     
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  38. matt#4801

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    SEHS has had 45 miles added to it not 7 and London to Brighton and East Coastway will get the dynamic weather.
     
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  39. demon#7085

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    Microsoft/Xbox team care about their players on pc & xbox. Look at the graphics on forza horizon 5. That was price at 32.99 for deluxe and free on game pass day one.
     
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    Wow 45miles and still can not travel to Ashford Station haha. And still no hdr for tsw 3 wow what a joke.
     
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    I do believe that tsw3 will also be on game pass from day 1.
    It now will go to Ashford International as part of the extension mate.
     
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  42. junior hornet

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    Yes, you can travel to Ashford Station.
     
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    But still no dolby vision or hdr support. Forza has both supported
     
  44. demon#7085

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    So you can go london Vic to Ashford Station then
     
  45. chieflongshin

    chieflongshin Well-Known Member

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    just realised, new member, says it all. They always arrive pent up and angry for their first 20post,let them calm down.

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  46. matt#4801

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    St pancras to Ashford on hs1 yes.
     
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    demon#7085 is clearly a troll. Don't waste your energy.
     
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    I’m half expecting them to complain next that theirs no Nintendo Support
     
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    49.99 for no hdr or dolby amtos or vision support
     
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  50. demon#7085

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    Xbox series x vision should have hdr or dolby vision support like forza horizon 5 does.
     

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