Route Mbta Commuter Feedback Thread

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  1. addry#6825

    addry#6825 Well-Known Member

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    Ok sorted! Thanks for your help bud!
     
  2. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Anytime you have to own quite a lot to get so few jobs on this route
     
  3. addry#6825

    addry#6825 Well-Known Member

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    Everytime I try to complete an acela yard move there’s an Amtrak blocking my path!
     
  4. pveezy

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    I was playing Boston Providence and I noticed a new issue on the route that is CAUSED by Boston Worcester.

    For some reason the Boston Worcester version of the MBB single level cars will spawn into the consists in Boston Providence. I know they are the Worcester versions because they have the wrong fleet numbers (800s instead of 500s).

    The problem with this is for some reason the doors will not open on the Boston Worcester MBB cars when they are on the Boston Providence route. For example right now I’m running a service with a 4 coaches and a cab car. The cab car and 2 of the coaches are from Boston Providence and work fine. Two of the coaches are from Boston Worcester and the doors won’t open. See in the photo below,
    coach 530 which has a correct fleet numbers is a Boston Providence coach and has the doors open. Coach 836 is from the Worcester route (which has the issue with the wrong fleet numbers) and the doors won’t open.

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    Further down the train, same issue. Coach 808 is a Worcester car and doors don’t open. Coach 504 is the correct one for Providence and doors work.
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    So the Worcester cars having the wrong number actually helped here because it makes it clear it’s the ones from that route that have an issue on this route.

    Also you can notice in the HUD that’s also screwed up. It’s telling me to unlock the doors but also that my passengers have loaded (which is impossible if the doors are closed).

    Edit: the Worcester CAB CARS (with the improper 1800 series number) also seem to spawn into Providence but their doors seem to work regardless.

    ALSO: this issue affects both the F40s (Worcester version AND Providence version) WHEN USED on Providence route.

    Edit 2: seems to only be an issue with player trains. AI trains that spawn with Worcester MBBs are able to open the doors.

    DTG could probably solve this easily by turning off substitution of Worcester MBBs onto Providence. I don’t see why there would be any need to spawn two different versions of the same coach in the first place. But unfortunately it’s not something we can do ourselves from the layer options.
     
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  5. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I haven't played any of them yet I try one later and you know how I get on any particular job or all of them
     
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  6. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Has job Csx Q346 been fixed yet the 1st job and are gonna fix the lights at night because man they are bright give me a headache
     
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  7. PseudoStalker

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    Why am I getting random penalty brakes from nowhere on every rolling stock? In HSP46 cab there is "AB Info" icon appearing on a left screen(in other rolling stock there is no indicators). What "AB Info" means? Auto Brakes? But Why? I'm not speeding at all 58/60.
     
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  8. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    It might because either atc or acses are changing the speed always follow the blue speed marker if using safty if they change the limit automatic brakes straight into suppression until down to speed limit set by atc or acses.
     
  9. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    But there was no change in the speed limits. Signal clear. No indicators on a left screen. Vigilance alerter was like 10 seconds before. It's just came from nowhere. Today it happened between Framingham and Ashland near the first rail crossing. My speed was 58 and power handle in a first position.
     
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  10. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not being patronizing but If you do play with safety on dont follow track speed follow atc and acses speed unless track speed is lower then atc or acses speed then follow track speed if happens see if you can grab a screen shot post so we have a look at the screens
     
  11. PseudoStalker

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    Signal is clear. On ATC/speedometer panel there is MAX indicator active, which means go with track speed. And track speed is 60 when my speed is 58. So no speeding. No ATC/ACSES changes. No activity from signaling/safety at all.
    The brakes are simply applied to the maximum from nowhere, the AB Info lights up on the left screen.
    If you are speeding when the signal/track speed is changed - there is no auto brakes application, there is beeping instead. So this thing can't be caused by usual safety systems operations. So what is this? What's triggering it?
    To me it looks like the bug in safety systems script.

    But off course no one from DTG will come and give some comments.
     
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  12. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I've never come across that before but you maybe about a bug in the safety
     
  13. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    Are you on PC? Cause for me on PC it happens like every 2nd-3rd run in random places.
     
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  14. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    No I'm on xbox but if mods that might causing it to happen
     
  15. PseudoStalker

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    I don't think this has ever happened on F40PH. Most often this happens on the HSP46. And this definitely happened on CTC-3 and CTC-5(and maybe all this happened when HSP 46 was in back, not sure, but sounds like a culprit).
    No mods for this route from my side.
     
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  16. cActUsjUiCe

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    Do you have the alerter enabled? I wonder if the alarm from it is silent somehow
     
  17. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    Yes I have. But as I sayed before the alerter was like 10-15 seconds before the AB.
    By the way CTC-3 have the silent alerter(no sunds at all, just blinking button).
     
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  18. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Can you un mute the alerter in ctc cabs ?
     
  19. SGTDRE

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    Has this happened on A single service Timetable/scenario or ? I ask because I have done SW5 Geometry Extra Boston MA - Worcester MA HSP46 MBTA x2 and the only issue I had was me bumbling up on the speed reduction, otherwise, it all went well each time.
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    I did the first one and all went well, have not had time to do the other one yet, but I will get to it and let ya know what happens.
     
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  20. PseudoStalker

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    As I said before, it happened to me multiple times(didn't count, sorry) in different places. Sometimes there was an approach signal, sometimes clear.
    From what I remembered:
    - Between Framingham and Ashland near the first rail crossing. Current signal is clear, next signal is clear too. HSP46.
    - Between two yellow signals in front of Boston South station. CTC-3. Speed was ~9 mph. I pass the transponder, the safety system signal sounds, I acknowledge it, the sound stops and after 2 seconds my brakes are applied fully from nowhere without any sounds from the safety systems. Next signal wasn't red.
    - ~500 yards before "go via" marker in front of Worcester. HSP 46. Speed was around 18 mph(restriction 20 on speedometer). Again fully brakes from nowhere. Next signal was red.
    - Can't remember the place, but somewhere between Framingham and Wellesley. CTC-5. Speed was low, cause I've departed from the station like 20-30 seconds ago. Again full brakes. I don't remember the next signal aspect.
    There was more(like 1 more on CTC-5 and 1-2 more on HSP46), but I don't remember details.

    And it doesn't happens every run. Maybe 1 time from 3-4 runs.

    This may be the same bug that occasionally occurred on the Boston Sprinter. When the speed limit on the HUD, but not on the ATC panel(probably just didn't have enough time to refresh), dropped to 0 for half a second, and then returned back, which led to an emergency braking. This bug was apparently fixed after the release of the Acela I guess.
    Now I'm playing with minimal HUD, so can't see this.
     
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  21. SGTDRE

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    WoW now that is really screwed up, with an issue like this being so random it's not easy to reproduce where several different people can run the service and be able to work things out.
     
  22. Sharon E

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    Being on pc, will try doing some runs. Would guess, from what PseudoStalker is saying it is random runs, not any specific one.
     
  23. steveownzzz#6107

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    Haven’t seen any issues myself but I’m interested. Next time it happens I’d suggest capturing the previous 30-60 seconds of footage to share.
     
  24. Sharon E

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    Not related to the unexplained penalty stops, but I am leaving Worchester in a CTC-5 cabcar leading on Extra Worchester to Boston at 11:08. Get hit with a 15 mph limit at the second switch I come to. The signal controlling the switch is a limited clear. So in my understanding limited speed is 45 not 15. Further there is no indication of this reduction on the 2d map or HuD, it just happens. The signal in question should, I think, be displaying slow clear, rule 287. This is a know issue in this MBTA route. I have experienced this several time running freight. Placed a few screen grabs to show. The first one is the 2d map just before the signal. Second shows the signal, the green is flashing with steady red over it. The third is in the switch with the 15 mph limit now showing in the HuD. Last one is the 2d display once I get this 15 mph, it now shows it. I know cActUsjUiCe has worked hard on these signals.

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  25. miata54

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    Just purchased the Boston-Worcester route. I do not have any of the required routes to enable freight service. When I purchase them, are they automatically installed to TSW5 with the rolling stock appearing and with their timetables/jobs?
     
  26. PseudoStalker

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    That's exactly how it works.
     
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  27. Rhazv

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    The engine sounds in notch 3 don't work for me anymore. The engine sounds work just fine in all other notches. Here is a brief video demonstrating the problem:
     
  28. SGTDRE

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    To me Notcho 1,2,3 sounds the same, Notcho 4 I year it.
    Maybe if you went through the Notchos slower, like doing 1 mippippi , 2 mippippi, 3 mippippi, change Notchos, and so on.
     
  29. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    MBTA Commuter
    • Fixed alerter sound on CTC-3.
    Ehmmm... But it still silent, just blinking.
     
  30. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I was just about to say the same thing
     
  31. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    When the game switches from "day" mode to "night" mode the dials became too dark. As example - pressure gauge red arrow in HSP46 is unreadable, and instrument lights are useless.
    This is very noticeable in the moment when TSW switch from "day" to "night". Second ago you saw all the instruments/dials perfectly - now you see almost nothing.
    Or maybe this is another side effect of an "eye adaptation evening glitch".
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  32. PseudoStalker

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    Wellesley Square stop marker for track 2 when going westbound is in the wrong place. Instead of "1" sign it placed at "5 car" sign, which is 115 yards away. If you stop at the marker that the game offers, the train simply won't fit the platform.
     

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    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I always thought there was few that looked like they was way off of where they should stop
     
  34. chris#6865

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    Great job on the updated F40 sounds but one issue I’ve noticed. When operating from the cab car with the F40 it sounds like the sounds are the old sounds.
     
  35. Anthony Pecoraro

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    The Boston‐Providence F40 subs in.
     
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    Is there a plan in an update to correct that?
     
  37. IfICanDream

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    One big issue and a smaller one. I'm on a PS5, FYI.

    The big one: In the introduction, the narrator pronounces Framingham wrong. As a former resident of Massachusetts, I can tell you that it's pronounced Framingham (as in Frame-ing-ham), not Fram-ing-ham (like tram). I never in all the years I lived there (about 15) heard it pronounced any other way.

    Also, the volume on the introductory modules seemed very low. Not having that problem with other add-ons. It might be a change I need to make, but I just wanted to mention that.

    Thanks for putting MBTA on sale. I was looking forward to getting it.
     
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  38. temple7d

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    Lol, it flashes for about 3 seconds, then starts blaring afterwards. (It functioned that way during the original Boston- Providence release. Changed after the Worcester route).
     
  39. ice#6850

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    Are you on PC Steam
     
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  41. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    5, not 3. And the problem is that no one from DTG explain this. Instead they are like "okay, there was a bug, but we fixed it". What bug? What do they fixed? How it supose to work after fixing? Nah, they busy advertising the next add-ons.
     
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    Steam. 521. HSP46. Can't start the service, cause screen immediately become black and game says you've passed restricted signal.
     
  43. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Same happened on xbox so when press button to start press brake straight away worked for me.
     
  44. PseudoStalker

    PseudoStalker Well-Known Member

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    You can drive CTC-5 without master key/reverser.
    There was a long stop, so I decided to go out for a walk on the platform. When I returned, I was able to start moving without the key/reverser (I didn't take it out, it disappeared on its own) with the speedometer turned off. Obviously, this shouldn't happen.
     
  45. razmatus#2517

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    tried playing F40PH after some time, noticed a scoring bug - turned all the safety system stuff on, but even then it gives me only +35 pts... I know for some of you it isnt an issue really, but for me it is an indicator if the game properly registers safety systems (also, on Boston Sprinter version, the alerter works fine and first alert comes like halfway between first and second station, while on the new version the alerter doesnt come off for some reason)... to determine if it is just a temp bug or not, I am redownloading the DLC to see if that helps

    Edit: tried and didnt help... so again, it correctly gives me +250 pts at departure but then it should give me +65 every quarter mile and it gives only +35, so I am smelling a bug in there
     
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  46. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    Are you switching the alerter on behind you on the number board light switch is and turn on the fuse in the box where you turn on the safety I've never had any problems with safety scoring on this route and I'm playing on xbox
     
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    yes, there is that thing near number lights, in one of the versions it is just on by default and in the other one you turn it on, and in fuse box, in Boston Sprinter version you have Warning devices and safety devices, and one more fuse,... yeah I turned everything on... I didnt have a problem with this when the DLC launched and afterwards... there must have been an update in past few weeks that screwed this up - I have already played multiple full-length services (all the way up to Worcester), all on platinum medal... so I dont understand whats going on... will try a couple things before I file a support ticket
     
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    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    somehow, no idea how, I managed to get +65 on the newer version of the loco (the one that has Warning devices fuse pointing down permanently for some reason), but cannot get it on the older version... will have to do some more testing to see what could interfere with correct safety stuff detection

    Edit: will try reinstalling Boston Sprinter DLC and see if that changes anything
     
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  49. dal#7945

    dal#7945 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure but boston providence route I'm not if you actually get points for using safty system not played that route for a while
     
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    razmatus#2517 Well-Known Member

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    I know that the Boston Sprinter route only has gold aka older PTS system... but if you try using F40PH from that route on Boston Worcester, for some reason it doesnt detect the safety systems being on and thus doesnt give you full +65 pts aka impossible to earn platinum then... like yeah I could just use the newer version, but that one e.g. has Warning device fuse turned down (as if it was off), and doesnt display correct speed upon exiting Boston South Station (10 mph, the new version just shows 20 mph)... aaand for some reason (could be OCD lol) I want to get to the root of things here :D
     

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