Train Sim World 3 Midland Mainline: London-kettering/corby With Marston Vale Line To Bletchley

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    Drive from our fascinating capital through the countryside into the Midlands in Train Sim World 3: Midland Mainline: London-Kettering/Corby and Marston Vale Line

    Hello, I would like to suggest the Midland Mainline and Marston Vale Line for TSW3 as the MML has had a lot of success on TSC and a most have in TSW3

    Stock included with base route:

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    The British Rail Class 43 HST

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    The British Rail Class 222 'Meridian'

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    The British Rail Class 700 'Desiro City'

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    The British Rail Class 150/1 'Sprinter'

    Training (In Training Center)
    Class 43 (EMR) Introduction
    Class 222 Introduction
    Class 700 Introduction
    Class 150 Introduction


    Scenarios:
    Screaming VP-185: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive a VP185 HST from Kettering to St Pancras going express and getting that engine to scream its life out

    Corby Stopper: (Difficulty - 2)
    Drive a 222 Meridian from St Pancras to Corby stopping at Luton, Bedford, Kettering and Corby, this is normal for Corby services

    Thameslink Madness: (Difficulty - 4)
    Drive a 700 from Bedford to St Pancras Thameslink following behind a very late and all stopping service, all on a stormy day

    Pancras to Albans: (Difficulty - 3)
    Drive a 700 from St Pancras to St Albans but you will catch up with another service at Mill Hill Broadway so watch those signals

    Cricklewood Sandbox: (Difficulty - 1)
    Drive any train you want in Cricklewood sidings, but you are restricted to the depot boundary so drive carefully

    Marston Vale Sprinting: (Difficulty - 1)
    Drive a 150 from Bletchley to Bedford on a semi-fast service only stopping at intermediate stations

    Timetable:
    2019 Working Timetable

    DLC, Layers and Stations coming up on Pages 2-4...
     
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    Potential DLC:

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    The British Rail Class 230 'D-Train' (the diesel 484) (Marston Vale Line)


    Layers:
    66 from SEHS/GWE/ECW/RHTT for freight/RHTT services along both routes
    Vintage Diesels (20s, 37s, 40s, 45s, 47s) for railtour traffic
    395 from SEHS for AI layer on the domestic platforms at St Pancras


    Stations:
    St Pancras International (same asset as SEHS)
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    St Pancras railway station, also known as London St Pancras or St Pancras International and officially since 2007 as London St Pancras International, is a central London railway terminus on Euston Road in the London Borough of Camden. It is the terminus for Eurostar services from Belgium, France and the Netherlands to London. It provides East Midlands Railway services to Leicester, Corby, Derby, Sheffield and Nottingham on the Midland Main Line, Southeastern high-speed trains to Kent via Ebbsfleet and Ashford Internationals, and Thameslink cross-London services to Bedford, Cambridge, Peterborough, Brighton, Horsham and Gatwick Airport. It stands between the British Library, the Regent's Canal and London King's Cross, with which it shares an Underground station, King's Cross St Pancras.

    Kentish Town:
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    Kentish Town is a London Underground and National Rail station in Kentish Town in the London Borough of Camden. It is at the junction of Kentish Town Road and Leighton Road. It is in Zone 2. The station is served by the High Barnet branch of the London Underground Northern line, and by Thameslink trains on the National Rail. It is the only station on the High Barnet branch with a direct interchange with a National Rail line; furthermore, an Out of Station Interchange (OSI) with Kentish Town West on the North London Line is not charged as two separate journeys in electronic journey charging.

    West Hampstead Thameslink:

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    West Hampstead Thameslink is a National Rail station on the Midland Main Line and is served by Thameslink trains as part of the Thameslink between Kentish Town and Cricklewood. The station is in Zone 2.

    Cricklewood:
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    Cricklewood railway station is on the Midland Main Line in England, serving the town of Cricklewood in the London Borough of Barnet, north London. It is 5 miles 9 chains (8.2 km) down the line from St Pancras and is situated between West Hampstead Thameslink to the south and Hendon to the north. Its three-letter station code is CRI. It is served by Thameslink services on the cross-London Thameslink route. It is in Zone 3.

    Hendon:
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    Hendon railway station is on the Midland Main Line in England, serving Hendon in the London Borough of Barnet, north London. It is 6 miles 79 chains (11.2 km) down the line from St Pancras and is situated between Cricklewood to the south and Mill Hill Broadway to the north. Its three-letter station code is HEN. The station is served by Thameslink-operated trains on the Thameslink route. It is on the boundary of Zones 3 & 4.

    Mill Hill Broadway:
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    Mill Hill Broadway railway station is on the Midland Main Line in England, serving the suburb of Mill Hill in the London Borough of Barnet, north London. It is 9 miles 28 chains (15.0 km) down the line from St Pancras and is situated between Hendon to the south and Elstree & Borehamwood to the north. Its three-letter station code is MIL. The station is served by Thameslink-operated trains on the Thameslink route. It is in Zone 4.

    Elstree & Borehamwood:
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    Elstree & Borehamwood railway station is a railway station in the town of Borehamwood, Hertfordshire, England. It primarily serves Borehamwood as well as the nearby village of Elstree, 1.3 miles (2.1 km) to the south-west. The station is situated on the Midland Main Line, 12 miles 35 chains (20.0 km) down the line from St Pancras and is situated between Mill Hill Broadway to the south and Radlett to the north. Its three-letter station code is ELS. Elstree & Borehamwood is also the first station down the line that is located outside the Greater London area; however, it is still within London's Travelcard zones, and is located in Zone 6.

    Radlett:
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    Radlett railway station is on the MML in England, serving the village of Radlett, Hertfordshire. It is 15 miles 17 chains (24.5 km) down the line from St Pancras and is situated between Elstree & Borehamwood to the south and St Albans to the north. Its three-letter station code is RDT. The station is served by Thameslink-operated trains on the Thameslink route. EMR services from Leeds, Sheffield, Leicester and Nottingham run through at speed, but do not stop. Interchange with inter-city services can be made at Luton and St Pancras.

    St Albans:
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    St Albans City railway station, also known simply as St Albans, is one of two railway stations serving the city of St Albans in Hertfordshire, England (the other being St Albans Abbey). The 'City' station is the larger of the two, as it is on the better-connected MML, 19 miles 71 chains (32.0 km) from St Pancras, being served by Thameslink trains on the Thameslink route.

    Harpenden-Bedford on Page 3...
     
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    Great route, for another dlc the 319 could work as the old thameslink rolling stock. But yeah great route - I'm actually going on this route in a few weeks so this is definitely a good route.
     
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    Harpenden:
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    Harpenden railway station is on the Midland Main Line in England, serving the town of Harpenden, Hertfordshire. It is 24 miles 51 chains (39.7 km) down the line from London St Pancras and is situated between St Albans to the south and Luton Airport Parkway to the north. Its three-letter station code is HPD. The station is served by Thameslink-operated trains on the Thameslink route.


    Luton Airport Parkway:
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    Luton Airport Parkway railway station is on the MML in England, serving south Luton and Luton Airport in Bedfordshire. It is situated in Park Town, Luton, and is 29 miles 19 chains (47.1 km) down the line from St Pancras between Harpenden to the south and Luton to the north. Its three-letter station code is LTN, also the IATA code for the airport. The station is served by Thameslink operated trains on the Thameslink route and by EMR. It is situated approximately 1 mile (1.6 km) west of the airport, to which it is linked by a chargeable shuttle bus service.

    Luton:
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    Luton railway station is located in the town centre of Luton, Bedfordshire, England. The station is about three minutes' walk from The Mall Shopping Centre. It is situated on the MML and is operated by Thameslink.


    Leagrave:
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    Leagrave railway station is located in Leagrave, a suburb in the north of Luton in Bedfordshire, England. Leagrave station is situated on the Midland Main Line, 33¾ miles (54 km) north of St Pancras. The station is managed by Thameslink and is served by the Thameslink route.

    Harlington:
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    Harlington railway station is located in Bedfordshire. It is named after the village of Harlington, on the outskirts of which it is located, but serves a wide rural area including the larger villages of Toddington and Barton-le-Clay.

    Flitwick:
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    Flitwick railway station is in the centre of Flitwick, in Bedfordshire, England. The station is situated on the MML. The station is managed by Thameslink, who operate all trains serving it, and is served by Thameslink services between Bedford and Brighton. As well as Flitwick itself, the station also serves the adjoining town of Ampthill, which no longer has its own station.

    Bedford:
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    Bedford railway station (formerly Bedford Midland Road and historically referred to on some signage as Bedford Midland) is the larger of two railway stations in the town of Bedford in Bedfordshire, England. It is on the MML from St Pancras to the East Midlands and the terminus of the Marston Vale Line from Bletchley through Bedford St John's.

    Marston Vale Line and Bedford-Kettering/Corby on Page 4...
     
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    TSW Nathan Well-Known Member

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    I would love to see this route! Looks great and who wouldn't want a class 222
     
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    Marston Vale Line:

    Bedford St John's:
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    Bedford St Johns is one of two railway stations in Bedford in Bedfordshire, England, on the Marston Vale linking Bletchley and Bedford. It is unstaffed and is operated by London Northwestern Railway.

    Kempston Hardwick:
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    Kempston Hardwick railway station serves the village of Kempston Hardwick in Bedfordshire, England. It should not be confused with the nearby town of Kempston. The station has two platforms next to a half-barrier level crossing.

    Stewartby:
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    Stewartby railway station is a station on the Marston Vale Line, which serves the Bedfordshire village of Stewartby in England. It is the nearest station to the Marston Vale Millennium Country Park.

    Millbrook:

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    Millbrook railway station serves the villages of Millbrook and Marston Moretaine in Bedfordshire, England. It is on the Marston Vale Line, between Stewartby and Lidlington. Millbrook is also the principal stop for the Marston Vale Millennium Country Park.

    Lidlington:
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    Lidlington railway station serves the village of Lidlington in Bedfordshire, England. The station's two platforms once faced each other, either side of the double tracks. This has since been modified to have staggered platforms either side of the level crossing in order to reduce the time the barriers spend down.

    Ridgmont:

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    Ridgmont railway station is a small unstaffed railway station that serves the village of Ridgmont in Bedfordshire. The station is about 1 mile (2 km) away from Ridgmont on the other side of the M1, (beside Junction 13), Brogborough and Husbourne Crawley. It also serves the large Amazon warehouse next door. It is on the Marston Vale Line.

    Aspley Guise:
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    Aspley Guise railway station serves the village of Aspley Guise in Bedfordshire, England. It is on the Marston Vale Line.

    Woburn Sands:
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    Woburn Sands railway station serves the town of Woburn Sands and the village of Wavendon in the City of Milton Keynes in Buckinghamshire, England. The station is on the Marston Vale line.

    Bow Brickhill:
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    Bow Brickhill railway station is a railway station that serves the civil parishes of Bow Brickhill and Walton in the City of Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, England. It is on the Marston Vale Line.


    Fenny Stratford:
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    Fenny Stratford is a railway station that serves the Fenny Stratford area of Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire. It is on the Marston Vale Line.

    Bletchley:
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    Bletchley is a railway station that serves the southern parts of Milton Keynes, England (especially Bletchley itself), and the north-eastern parts of Aylesbury Vale. It is 47 miles (75 km) northwest of Euston, about 32 miles (51 km) east of Oxford and 17 miles (27 km) west of Bedford and is one of the seven railway stations serving the Milton Keynes urban area.

    Back to the MML, sorry for the slight detour... :D:D:D

    Wellingborough:
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    Wellingborough railway station (formerly Wellingborough Midland Road) is a Grade II listed station located in the market town of Wellingborough in Northamptonshire, England. It lies on the MML and is 65 miles (104 km) from London St Pancras. The station is operated by EMR, which is also the primary operator serving the station with passenger services.


    Kettering:
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    Kettering railway station serves the town of Kettering in Northampton, England. It lies south-west of the town centre, on the MML, 71 miles (115 km) north of St Pancras.

    Corby:
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    Corby railway station, owned by Network Rail and managed by EMR, is in Corby, Northamptonshire, England. The current station, opened on 23 February 2009, replaces an earlier one dating from 1879, first closed on 18 April 1966 but reopened between 1987 and 1990.


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    Could be, but it would need a) it's own timetable and b) the EMT license instead of EMR because EMT operated the high speed services when Thameslink had the 319s ;)
     
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    Two-in-one it is, the Midland Main Line and the Marston Vale Line, the two routes packaged together are around the same length as Cajon and SEHS, if you can't get a 220 or 221 first, why not get the 222 first :)
     
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    Fair enough, what about the 180 however? Doesn't that still run on EMR services out of Pancras?
     
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    They do but the 180s are the HSTs successor until the 810 Auroras arrive in a few years time then when the 810s come then it will be bye 180, bye 222 :(
     
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    Urgh Hitachi nonsense. But the HST still operates under Midland Railway instead of EMR right so its just the EMR hst's that got replaced. + lets be real - this is the only chance we will get a 180
     
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    Yeah, unless a route involving Grand Central is made :)
     
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    Wow! Sooo many level crossings!
     
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    Yeah, the Marston Vale is full of crossings it looks like :o
     
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    Awesome route in principle but the one downside is the class 150 we have one of those in the Cornwall route but the physics and engine audio still need finishing off to accurate standards so I’d be concerned that this would be yet another sprinter flop
     
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    It is a different bodyshell and this would be a DTG-made route anyway, I'm not letting this be a Rivet-made route, sorry Rivet ;), so sounds will be fine :)
     
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    A true Midland Main Line would be Peaks screaming down to Bedford on 8 or 9 Mk2 aircons and Class 127's on the locals.

    Marston Vale, which is more likely to be a standalone route than included with a larger product. Again, personally I would set back a few years when the brickworks were still open so you could have Class 25's working the trip freight and Class 105 (Cravens) DMU's running to the original Bedford St Johns station.
     
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    I knew you were going to say that ;), yeah I thought Marston Vale could be included with this to boost route mileage and to provide a different service style to your high speed or commuter stoppers you know ;), maybe a Diesel Legends timetable for your idea with the 25, 45, 105 and 127 as base trains and other locos like 40s and 47s substituted on :)
     
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    However a moderately modern option, with 317's/319's and HST's + 222's would also be good. And 150's or even 230's on the Vale Line.
     
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    Yep, would love that also :)
     
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    Marston Vale would probably be made separately, an ideal route for Rivet given they already made the similar Class 484.

    Instead of going further north to Kettering and Corby from Bedford, I would rather see the Thameslink core extended down to Blackfriars, which could include an element of Automatic Train Operation (optional from a gameplay perspective) to add something a bit different :)
     
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    Oh, good idea, ATO in TSW3, yes please :love:
     
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    Me too!
     
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    Very good suggestion and to be honest any era would do the job as you have Peaks in the 70s and 80s, HSTs with the beefy paxman valenta and vp185 engines from the 80s through till only a couple of year ago and now you've got the 180s. I have to say I would prefer it when peaks were still bombing up and down the MML with the 127s on locals. This would mean DTG would only need to make one new unit to make this work. ;)
     
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    You can do that, as I've said with Vern's request above of the same trains, I would love a Diesel Legends of the Midland Main Line ;)
     
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    The GWE Diesel Legends I can't stand so I was more thinking the actual route to be built how it was in the when the peaks and 127s were about (70s/early 80s) and forget about the modern stock as we already have a 45 in game so DTG will only need to make one new unit and not bother about 3 new units. I would really like to see more BR blue routes as they are such an important part of the railway history in Britain.
     
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    So you're suggesting late 70s/early 80s MML, it would be a change from all the modern day routes we've had ;)
     
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    Exactly, yes and it would fit in with DTGs only one new train a route policy as the 45s (from NTP) could handle the express passenger and then a class 127 could be built for the locals.
     
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    DTG have had that bad habit for a while now :(, get your act together DTG ;)
     

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