Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

Just out of interest, as not everything that should have been released in patch one made it through, is it possible that some stability fixes got left behind. PS5 version seems to crash too often. Pretty sure crashes I have had so far are driving the HST

 

Thought I’d join the bandwagon and purchase MML

 

A single example in one Middle English poem from 1375 hardly counts as "has been since," especially with the weight of all English grammarians from the 18th century onwards against it. Instead it represents a modern folk-neologism to fill a perceived need, like "y'all" as a second-person plural.

Or are we going to start taking all of Chaucer's and Langland's usages as grammatical now?

 

So when is this patch being released?

 

I'm not sure why you've singled out Chaucer and Langland, and that statement about "all English grammarians" isn't provably or logically true.

I'm sure you should know that language was oral first and foremost, and if people started using "they" as a singular pronoun in writing (not only those you named) it's likely because people (not everyone) were using it in everyday speech.

But the singular pronoun usage has been recorded as the dictionary definition for years, and the denotation is based on oral as much as written usage, which does influence the development of grammar, regardless of "grammarians" arguing over it. Language is a mutable thing, after all.

But my comment was only supposed to be an interesting aside, not a focal point of linguistic debate and etymology and widespread usage (which is impossible to pin down anyway), and has nothing to do with MML...

 

Why Not Just Invent a gender neutral word. Might I suggest "Hir" or "Hem".?
Now can we Get back to NNL please.

 

MML*

 

It's not out of control it has been quite civil actually. And not off the rails there are lots of posts about MML. Geez 2 users talk a little off topic to Jane being polite and your freaking out.

It nice to know how someone would like to be addressed properly.

 

Jane
It is at the position where a main signal is hard to be seen.
Do revise a signal assisting it?

All installed along the line is without lights. The present situation is a decoration of the without lights.

 

Jane another service bug issue on mml.

Class 66 service 6F46 stapleford sidings-cliffe hill stud farm @ 01:47.

Put in reverser, into forwards, try to release brakes, but they dont release at all. This service cant be done.

Am on series x.

 

Are the brakes in cut in or cut out and are the brakes in passenger och freight mode?

 

Brakes are cut-out on that service when you join it. You have to cut in

 

To cut in the brakes, go to the screen above the windshield, zoom in so you can see it, then navigate though the buttons to bring up the screen which shows the brakes, press it to cut them in and exit. You have to remember this is an American locomotive in a British body so the controls are more closely related to a US loco than a British one.

 

Why? Every other 66 service you get in and take them off right away. But this one is different. Why? Annoying

 

Cheers. I shall give it a go

 

It is because SHGs is trying to give the most realistic experience possible and having the brakes cut out is normal when a locomotive like this is not manned, just like you have to insert the reverser when you begin.

 

But as i said every other 66 service wasnt like that.

 

Can't answer why the others have their brakes cut in other then it was who wrote this particular run decided no to do it.

 

yep, different designers. I will have a chat in the morning about standardising...

 

Cheers jane

 

Jane, if anything, what the controls in that 66 should be when starting are reverser centered and out and the field switch off. Usually the brakes are cut in if the train is in the middle of a run. The first 2 I mentioned are what we call here in the US 3 step protection. Let me add, this would all depend on the situation, if the driver was just waiting for a proceed signal and was the same individual who was running the train, than everything would be on. Whereas, if the driver was taking over from another driver, than the cab would be Safed.

 

this is really helpful, thank you Sharon. I profess to being no US rail expert.

 

3 step would usually include also both the independent and automatic brakes fully engaged and, as Sharon mentioned, gen field off, reverser centered and brakes cut out.

Some railroads might not follow these steps exactly, but the FRA has rules that cover unmanned locomotives, including " blue flag " rules to protect hostlers and others working around locos and cars.

I don't know to what extent these rules or similar procedures would apply to, say, a UK Class 59 or 66, but I would think that these locos should be immobilized for startup in TSW.

 

Also i noticed the rail operator group services also. Some services were ready to go. But then i got to ones, master key on, took off brakes and thought i could move.

Then i noticed the engine was off, see trying to figure out what to do to start it was annoying. Was it brakes on a little, or full, reverser in forward or natural.

Eventually figured it out.

Every other service the train was ready to go. For example.on south eastern high speed the train engine was always on.

So was mml rog services, well some of them, till i got to some that was off.

Either 1 or the other not both. Very confusing. And it would be helpful if we actually knew start up procedure also for noobies.

 

Independent, yes; automatic, no. Not when it takes 20 minutes or more to recharge them

 

Any idea on the release date of this update please?

Also, is there a list of hot-fixes to be issued in this patch?

 

Nothing offensive with the message though but still someone decided to be weak and report me grow up

 

I reported you. Because this isn't the place for Bigotry.

 

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Hi Marc, I’m trying to find your scenario. I’m on Xbox series x but when I search Duff to Nottingham there are no results. Am I missing something ? (Sorry, I’ve not used the scenario items before). Thank you

 

Let's get this thread back on topic shall we?

I'll start, hi Jane, any update on the hotfix?

 

Oh flipping heck, ignore me….I’ve just found it. I had the wrong menu highlighted !! Looking forward to trying it now. Cheers Martin

 

I hope you enjoy it. I'm glad you found it.

 

I've been asking all morning too. We just need a date as last week has passed and we were promised it then.

 

Didn't Jane say that they were going to release it last Friday but it got pushed back slightly so they could include something extra?

 

Ahh, I definitely missed that if she had stated an extra. Sounds cool, hopefully it releases soon!

 

I'm pretty sure that's what I read.

Edit, I found it, says about some extra PIS work they wanted to include.

 

Bring on the patch please.

 

Hey Alex,

We are getting the list together today. The patch is also being passed from dev to publishing this afternoon to start its journey to all of you.

all the best
Jane

 

Like Alex, I would also love to know if there will be updated patch notes issued with the patch.

 

Aaron and his group have done a ton of tidying up on the PIS displays, including more realistic size and font (as has been requested here)

 

OOPs! Sorry Jane I seem to have posted at the same time as you!

 

That is the plan Stewart yes, including those requested tail lights

 

Sounds great, I and many others here truly appreciate you and teams efforts, thank you.

 

Brilliant ! you guys rock!

 

Yeah, I just want to echo this comment.

The reason why I am pleased with your DLC is due to the fact you actually work to please your audience and improve your content, even after a technically 'forced' release date.

DTG don't even communicate with the audience unless it's to moderate or to get assistance from other users for a future product. There is generally no after sales support from the creator, unless it's passed to the pres crew (if they are still called that).

Appreciate your efforts Jane and Skyhook.

 

I genuinely appreciate you (and others here) Alex, as you patiently and consistently provide quality feedback. As you have seen from patch 1, we take that feedback on board and act on it wherever possible. So you are appreciated too.

 

lets say the brakes arent cut in how are you not getting the annoying “driver assist” message when you try to release the brakes.. I seem to get one just walking past the locomotive lol also using series x