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Sounds like the QA team could do with expanding to deal with the workload and backlog of legacy updates.

 

cant say I am happy. I got a patch from DTG for SEHS yesterday that I couldnt refuse which has now made it worse? The patch for the patch for MML is now delayed. The impression given previously was that this fix would be a quick update. Surely with all this 'testing' we shouldnt be in this mess in the first place? My view is that there is something wrong with the whole process. I can only speak as I find and SCS seem to release updates which work without all this drama. Its a commercial transaction not a favour and as such we should expect better.

 

I have a query if anyone can answer.

I was watching one of BAs YouTube streams of this route.
When he went past Derby depot there were Mk1s beside the 2 GWE Mk3s and I think a class 31 and 47 static at the depot shed.

I'm playing on XSX and have all DLC except Diesel Legends and I have never seen any static BR blue stock on this route.

 

The stock is from Diesel Legends I believe, I have them on my PC version and have NTP and Diesel Legends.

 

Agreed.

The difference between SCS and DTG is, that a truck driving simulator is appealing to many more people than train simulators - they'll always be a niche market.

So SCS can do things in a much more relaxed way - whilst being comparable to DTG (200 employees). The fact they release major updates using the Beta option is great - that's what it's for. Release it as Stable when the Beta is tested by the voluntary players and bugs have been ironed out. And constantly going back and updating older maps - brilliant! (I prefer ProMods though )

Also ETS2 trucks are much simpler than TSW stock (no really interactive cabs - every truck is basically the same in terms of functionality) and there's less core stock.

I still wonder how easily SCS managed to have working headlights that are invisible at daytime and smoothly fade in when it gets darker - very realistic. You don't explicitly need HDR - good maths in the code will do. DTG are still struggling with this.

DTG are caught in the infamous "Publish-or-Perish" cycle, that's why it's good to have a bigger budget with Focus now. But to get out of this cycle, quality needs to improve - else less players will buy DLC and as a result they must raise the price, which makes things even worse.

Skyhook seem to have understood this, and it's good to see MML getting the treatment it deserves (personally I prefer the TSC JustTrains version with AP stock and usable Ratcliffe PS). But Skyhook must also sell, I wonder how much more time they can afford to spend on patching...

 

Thanks,

I went back and read the launch article regarding layers for the route and Diesel Legends is not mentioned.

A bit odd as I would have took NTP, TVL and the class 31 DLC as a given as they are more popular DLCs than DL.

 

No sign of rain on my run and the lighting was very atmospheric. Look forward to the next one. it's really nice having scenarios where you don't have to hunt for hard to find dependencies.

 

If it's "absolutely fine to be frustrated" what about it being absolutely fine to have rebates on the next DLC. For every three degrees of frustration suffered, (I'm sure Jetwash could provide a suitable monitor), we could have a £1.00 rebate off the next DLC.

I never realised the difficulties of navigating the "slots availability", and its congestion, necessitated by the Steam system. Glad I now understand that a bit more.

If you agree, I look forward to Glossop for a fiver !

 

Just so you are all aware, I will be taking a break from this forum towards the end of next week. This is a serious family medical matter and I need to be with family members at this time.

I will be back (you cannot all get rid of me that easily ) I just wanted to let you all know that I am not doing a runner I really enjoy being here with you all and have already made many firm friends! I just may go quiet for a few weeks. I wanted to let you all know this is nothing at all work, MML or TSW related. A pure family issue.

Jane

 

Hope all is well Jane all the best

 

Good luck Jane.
Hope all's well.

 

Family first, always.

 

Glad to be of assistance, hope all is well.

My daughter is working on making another shorter video that's essentially a continuation of the video I already posted, rather than make one extremely long video.

 

I was wondering if anyone from Skyhook will be providing a useful forum presence during Jane's absence?

 

Same can be said for the recent SEHS update which seems to of broken more than it changed

 

Love the 158 and 43 id love to hear station anounments example train arriving into platform 1 is the 735 to Derby something like that and luggage in the racks

 

If you heard what matt about this one service,which is just a single deport move and all other 158 services are just AI.

 

This may have been mentioned before… but I noticed a visual bug with HST that causes some immersion breaking.

The unit numbers on the power cars/coaches are all the same. Ie if it’s unit 43055, you see that number on the front power car, the rear power car, and all the coaches.

In reality the power cars are all separate units so the front and back one should have its own unit number. Also each coach would have its own number.

 

The reason for the power cars having the same number is the fact that EMT only had a certain amount of HST's available/rostered and 'in-game', they are covering for meridian services aswell. In regards to the coach numbers, I can't answer that.

 

Been known about since day one. There was a patch due to sort it but Dovetail decided to delay it so they could get their own stuff out.

 

After downloading Diesel Legends DLC I still do not see any extra static rolling stock around Derby depot.

Is this for PC only?. I belive British Ace was playing on PS5 when I saw it.

 

On PC I’ve seen it every time I’ve driven through and don’t own Diesel Legends. After the first patch I saw the GWE branded coach.

 

They are there for me on Xsx

 

Derby Etches park is populated for me by the ROG 37 and some stock from NTP. Have you got the NTP and ROG DLC? (I'm on Steam though).

 

All the best jane-skyhook

 

Very odd. I'm on XSX and I have all UK DLC installed.

 

I used to think exactly like this thinking the problem is in testing.

However, then I brought Mainz - Koblenz

Now timetable is one thing but DTG had 3 journey mode services that you couldn't complete

You could finish one due to a red light at the end. You couldn't start another as red light straight away. The third was the best as you are sitting there wondering why the train wouldn't move before realising that they forgot to add the train engine at the other end of the train.

Now sorry but there is no way either Q&A or beta testers don't pick that up. Which says DTG know about the issue but release anyway and then just deploy JD to just spew BS at us when we complain

 

1 Service is Driveable only. Although there are AI 158 services. Pretty decent ones as well :P

Hentis

 

Great thanks

 

I will belive I see SHG retrofitting thier old routes...

 

The diesel legends pack does not add any additional layers to MML, I don't own the pack and I still get the Class 31 with MK2 coaches.

You need to own the Class 31 add on which requires Tees Valley Line, as for the MK2 coaches that should be from Northern Trans Pennine

 

Thanks for the replies everyone.
My last resort is to uninstall everything and start again.
I play NTP and TVL with the 31 at least once a week so I have them routes but not showing in MML.
I've completed the class 45 rail tour and all.

 

I’m the same I get the railtour layer but no AI rolling stock from NTP or TVL. I’m on PS4

 

This current video is in addition to the video I posted earlier at post number #2345 some of what is shown in the video may duplicate one or two items from the prior video. Without reading through the entire thread, I apologize if anything in this current video has repeated anything that's already been reported or known. I've been a bit busy. With jane-skyhook being away for personal reasons and whoever may be stepping in to keep us informed of changes and progress as well as taking note of what is being reported here, this video is meant to be of assistance to the devs with any and all patches and updates yet to be released.

 

Is there any possibility of sending us a link to these videos you have been creating as I can't click on either of them. Cheers.

 

Here ya go, try this link https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv94cbs_3FsisFqp52W7BZQ if not then I can try in a DM, either way, let me know. It should take you to my channel as the link in my signature. cheers.

:UPDATE:
I just tried logging out and back in again, unless I accept all cookies, via the popup I also can't see the link to click on the video.

 

Just brought MML,I did google, but haven't trawled through this thread and rather than make a new topic I thought I'd ask here.....

The uncommanded emergency stop coming into, and just outside of Nottingham, just before line C, is due to being too quick for the upcoming 25 mph limit?, I'm playing with HUD and the upcoming speed limit is 50, so I am assuming being at 50 at the limit is too quick for the upcoming 25, so you get the emergency stop? I assume it's one of those "route knowledge" things?

 

heya, it is something that has been fixed in the forthcoming update,

all the best
Jane

 

Ahh, that explains it then!

 

So today DTG appear to have pushed the pre-Glossop patch (for everyone) and by all accounts fixed some of the issues on SEHS that last weeks update broke. Why couldn’t the MML patch have been pushed out in the same release ‘slot’?

What are we missing here?

 

Might have been only for Steam only? - No update or any fix for SEH on XBOX - PC or Console - At least for me.

 

I'm on xbox I haven't had an update for SEHS unless it comes at some point

 

I believe something has come as part of the Glossop pre-patch. My point is, if a patch has been pushed out today (which happens prior to every DLC release), why could the MML patch not have been bundled with it in the release slot?

 

Had some sort of update (1.45) on ps4 yesterday. No idea what for.

 

JD replied to me, apparently it’s just in preparation for Glossop.

 

So it had a release slot did it not? Just wondering what might have prevented the MML patch going out with it?

 

what would you want for the improvement of MML or for it to be in the update

 

So, I bought the Somerset route and I’ve now tried your Scenario “Duff to Nottingham”.
Have to say a big well done to you Marc, it’s the most enjoyable run I’ve had on MML. It was great to see so many diesels on my travels. Looking forward to trying the Scottish Freight run next. Great job buddy.

 

Thank you so much. I'm so glad you enjoyed it. The Scottish Freight route is fairly straightforward in comparison lol.

 

Straightforward is ok, I’ve only recently started using the scenarios so it makes a nice change. I would definitely recommend everyone with MML to try the Duff route though, it’s really impressive, well done you buddy.