Midland Mainline - Skyhook Feedback

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  1. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    What's the reason for this patch in general? If they give a changelog and 50% is missing in reality.... That's the reason I never buy a product that's not created by DTG....
     
  2. antony.henley

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    Yes I messaged Alex and he has ammended them.

    Hentis
     
  3. theorganist

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    Well it isn't 50% is it. Presumably something else might have broken the HST numbering there are plenty of other fixes in the pach.
     
  4. Xander1986

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    How many bugs are by release and how many they have fixed already? For me this third-party routes are way beyond the quality level of 35€.... And this is not the first time that we get excuses with different reasons why the can not get the right quality level... My simple answer is... Do not sell it for this price. Being honest and reduce the price for third-party creators in general.

    This party creators does not have the knowledge at the moment and it's hard to get the right manner to reach the quality to get at the same level as DTG
     
  5. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    Actually this is the TSW3 route I feel I have got the most enjoyment out of for the 30 quid asking price so I see no reason why it should be sold cheaper because it doesn't fit your specific expectations.
     
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  6. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    Well to be fair the route is in a lot better state as it was on release day and in quite short time. If the first patch had gone out as intended then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    Jane has been very vocal and proactive in addressing issues.
     
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  7. sadler_owls

    sadler_owls Active Member

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    Thank you. At least we know it affects everyone.

    Worryingly I’ve submitted to Sony twice (April and June), and mentioned it here for over 2 months now.

    Will be trying later post patch to see if a fix went in. If not I think they are clearly not up to the job. It’s easily repeatable and has been known for 2 months now.
     
  8. sadler_owls

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    PS5 players have good reason to be upset. The only DLC where there’s and good chance you get a hard crash.
     
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  9. deeuu#6908

    deeuu#6908 Well-Known Member

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    I got the patched version, I've no idea why, but I was under the assumption that all the issues were fixed.

    It must have been a complete basketcase at release.
     
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  10. theorganist

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    Well I wouldn't say that but it looks a lot better now.

    For me the poor timetable was the main issue, for others it was the lineside and structures.
     
  11. Xander1986

    Xander1986 Well-Known Member

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    Truly the wishes for quality are difrrent for diffrent groups but in generall you paid for a full game but not to wait for patches.... If you wish creates an open beta or EA i think....
     
  12. matt#4801

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    Fair enough, but I am not on PS5 so I have no personal experience with that issue so I as a single person have got my personal money back plus more on the DLC.
     
  13. theorganist

    theorganist Well-Known Member

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    Well I think most releases have had patches after release. In fact I am sure most computer games do.
     
  14. torfmeister

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    You've probably all been trolled by Skyhook here. Take the money and run.
     
  15. torfmeister

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    Not only the ports, this thread is full of promises to improve the route. All that is not covered by the patch.
     
  16. matt#4801

    matt#4801 Well-Known Member

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    This patch is not the be all and end all, I feel that you are overthinking things slightly and this goes for what you said in the ECML suggestion thread about Skyhook too.
     
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  17. torfmeister

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    Maybe you're right. My gut says otherwise. Time will tell. I'll stay away from SHG DLC for the time being.
     
  18. sadler_owls

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    Patch has dropped on PS5 and the HST numbers are now fixed on GWE
     
  19. marcsharp2

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    You do know what "numerous patches" means don't you?
     
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  20. ebarbs#6076

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    Right you are. Think I must've had a faulty mod installed :)
     
  21. torfmeister

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    Oh, for sure I do - when I see them. For now it's just hot air, and I will not support this kind of developer behaviour any more, paying full price and then hoping for fixes. :)
     
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    I just had a TPWS issue post patch, on the C-Line heading into Nottingham from Derby. After the brakes released, and I got going the game crashed. It was a morning service in the 158, not sure which service number. On PS5.
     
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    I have highlighed the reason why (IMO) the patch today didn't work. Skyhook were working on one set of code as a base, but by the time the patch went out it had changed as a result of another change in the patch. I reckon GWE is fine but MML is not because the fix was built based on the old GWE code...
     
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    Well... we've had one. That's not multiple.
     
  25. antony.henley

    antony.henley Well-Known Member

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    Yep GWE works fine but MML doesn't, PS5 Patch, Haven't received an Xbox update yet.
     
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    Also had a TWPS brake application outside Nottingham post patch (PS5). Got going and mine didn’t crash this time.
     
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    1D57 now works as far as Nottingham (part 1), no crash so the patch fixed something. Did have a TWPS BRAKE application outside Nottingham (I was well under the speed limit observing adverse signals).

    About to do part 2 to Derby now.

    On a side note I’ll be adding this service to the recommended run thread. Plenty of adverse and stop signals. The patch changed something because before it was all greens…

    This time I was following HST and local services at various points. Timetable took this into consideration.
     
  28. sadler_owls

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    Part 2
    It literally crashed a mile out of Nottingham heading to Derby. (PS5)

    Not good enough I’m afraid. There’s a post further back of a PS5 crash since the patch this afternoon from another user.
     
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    Does anyone know when the Xbox patch will be available ? I’ve just been on and no sign of a patch for me.:(
     
  30. sadler_owls

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    Tried again just playing part 2 instead. Managed to get out of Nottingham this time but hard crashed a few hundred yards outside Derby.

    Buggy mess.
     
  31. Redbus

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    Just tried MML on PC, FYI still get all coaches labelled as coach A on the HST.
     
  32. antony.henley

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    read the patch notes for mml above .
     
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  33. maddog#6254

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    Ngl I swear nothing has changed in this update the dsd shortcut still doesn’t work and freight services still don’t exist and the Hst coaches are all named A still!? Idk if these are for future updates anyone know
     
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    Thanks bud, didn't spot that.
     
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    PS5 is still getting crashes. DSD/AWS switch is still is the wrong place. TWPS brake applications are still happening.
     
  36. FallenAngel00me

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    The HST doesn't crash for me on a service where it consistently crashed before today. I'm on ps5 too
     
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    Same for me. It worked on a previously crashed service. But then a different service crashed for me instead.

    Passengers were also walking through the sides of trains…
     
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  38. florians#7620

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    This patch has made things worse on PS5 somehow. It almost feels like this patch has rolled back to errors previously fixed.
     
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    HST nuclear lighting is still present.Pretty sure this was flagged on launch day (and fixed?) but it’s still there…
     
  40. antony.henley

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    1D57 worked for me post patch. Although still got the TPWS Brake Demand.

    sadler_owls when you did part one did you continue the service via free roam, or did you come out back to Main Menu and select it from the timetable menu?

    I will add to this thread after I have tried first running from return to free roam and continuing the service then trying the service from a fresh timetable run.

    Hentis
     
  41. phil.elliott

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    Indeed, and also that they made that clear to us as well.
     
  42. sadler_owls

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    Finished Part 1 and went to free roam to do part 2. Crashed almost immediately leaving Nottingham.

    Tried again loading in part 2 from the main menu. Made it all the way to Derby before crashing at the last signal before the curve into the station.

    May try part 2 again and turn of safety systems. See if it’s linked to that.
     
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    I can't remember any crashes on this route since I've got it (PS5).
     
  44. antony.henley

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    Tagging DTG Matt here as well.
    So I tried Part two of 1D57 St Pancakes to Derby as a continuation (free roam ) of Part one and the PS5 sat down and said nope at 1.6 miles from the stop at Long Eaton. I had safeties on but not DSD. Driving about 38mph and had just activated the AWS Magnet for a yellow light. Have sent the error report and tagged Matt and MML in it so you might be able to see what's happening.

    Hentis
     
  45. sadler_owls

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    It’s not even in the same place, just seems to have had enough at random points on PS5.

    Other DLC work flawlessly on TSW3 with regards to stability, this was not ready for release.
     
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    So 1D57 part two to Derby worked ok. Was a bit nervous at 1.6 miles from Long Eaton and again 1000 yards from Derby upto the point of when I stopped but it worked fine. That was choosing the service from the time table menu.

    Hentis
     
  47. redlichtie#1320

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    Jus played a peak time HST morning service (around half 8) from Leicester to Nottingham. Had emergency brake kick in about 850 yards short of Nottingham. Managed to get going and complete service.

    Free roamed and took over the 9.20 Nottingham to Matlock. Game crashed less than a mile outside Nottingham.

    Hugely frustrating!! (PS4)
     
  48. FallenAngel00me

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    I'm going to assume you play with safety systems on.
    AWS and TPWS are on when you turn AWS on. When you approach the TPWS magnets, if you're going more than 20mph on a red signal, it will automatically trigger the emergency brakes.

    If you don't play with safety systems, then Skyhook needs to get it together properly
     
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    Is it me or is the scenery and colors look better after the update. I’m on Xbox X
     
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    Can some let me why on Xbox X I don’t have all the freight services compare to PC. The only difference I don’t have is the class45 on Xbox.
    IMG_0485.jpeg IMG_0484.jpeg IMG_0483.jpeg IMG_0486.jpeg
     
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