Upcoming Release Mittenwaldbahn - Coming February 11th!

Discussion in 'Dovetail Live Article Discussion' started by DTG Alex, Jan 31, 2025.

  1. stujoy

    stujoy Well-Known Member

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    I missed that, must have been when I popped into the kitchen to get snacks! Good to hear though.

    The route looks marvellous and it’s looking very much like I will be getting it on release.
     
  2. diesel power

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    Really looking forward to this! it was about time we had a vintage electric loco in TSW!
     
  3. Kamaratko

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    Im wondering if that weird “clouds reflection on windows” bug on OBB1020 happens on certain weather settings or everytime. Anyway I trust TSG to fix it as fast as possible, we could have seen their effort with BR101 Expert project, and wish that DTG do their patch approvance part super fast.
     
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  4. vendys#6021

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    Indusi 60
    A little on a different topic, here the Indusi60 system will be used, it is common in TSW to use the PZB90 system, which can use the Display Safety System Helper system (yellow auxiliary windows on the right under the track HUD). If I remember from Niddertalbahn, it does not respond to it there, and you have to really pay attention to where you have to confirm the indusi, otherwise it goes to the brakes ...... Why can't it actually communicate with the DSSH and can't it also show where you have to confirm, I know there are 4 seconds for that, but still?
    On the other hand, it will be a challenge
     
  5. DTG Lukas

    DTG Lukas Developer Staff Member

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    it’s already fixed and is supposed to come with a patch on 18th of February, though those dates may move slightly.
     
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  6. TimTri

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    Thanks Lukas, that’s very good to hear. This was honestly the only big issue that stood out to me during the stream. If you can get it fixed that quickly, that’s great news. (Well… bad news for my wallet ;))
     
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    The route and rolling stock looked good as expected. The only things causing concern for me are that questions regarding performance on PS5 were seemingly completely ignored and the 1020s sound seemed to cut-off every 10 seconds or so.

    I’d quite like to know if I should expect blurry textures to plop up on PS5. And what was going on with the 1020s sound?
     
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    The preview was a slideshow..
     
  9. OldVern

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    That doesn’t sound encouraging. Far from being an 1800 GMT + 10 seconds purchase on Tuesday, this is increasingly looking like a wait for the first adopters to report in and/or review. Anyhow I now have 40 minutes free time while wife on the exercise bike to digest part of the stream, make some further judgments.
     
  10. OldVern

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    Okay having watched the video clip, following thoughts.

    The route, loco and new rolling stock look incredibly well done. No issues there. Only caveat was some of the tunnels didn’t seem to have obvious reverb though that might have been because Matt was running with the cab windows shut plus people talking over. The traction sounds actually seemed fairly quiet though guessing that’s as per prototype.

    But almost immediately the stuttering was very noticeable. DTG Matt asked me previously for evidence of this when feeding back about WCMLOS and the stuttering/sound squelching and here again is evidence of the exact same thing in your own streams. The only mention I could glean about performance was at the end of the clip when discussing FPS, but that’s not really the issue here. It’s the overall smoothness and I don’t care if I only get 25 or 30 FPS so long as there’s no hitching. And this route was hitching like hell.

    So verdict still out on Day One. 50% of me really wants to get stuck in and drive this, but the other 50% doesn’t want a stutter and squelching fest with ruined sound. The only mitigating factor on that is, as the traction and fan sounds are not evidently as loud as the Class 87, that aspect might not be so noticeable but I really do wish they would admit to and sort out what has gone wrong with the core to make the game go this way.
     
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    Matt said he doesn't frequent the forums at present.
     
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  12. Richard CZE

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    I really like the railway track. The railway traffic on one track is very interesting. But, I play on PS5 so I won't buy this dlc. The risk of blurry textures is too great. I played in HD mode for a while and the game looks really ugly.
     
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    I can understand why he's hiding with how dire the game is right now.
     
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  14. DTG Lukas

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    The audio stuttering was a problem of the stream machine, Matt uses two pcs to stream.
    It’s not a problem ingame :)

    the German stream later should show this
     
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  15. OldVern

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    As per comments in the other thread, thanks for confirming that Lukas. With hindsight perhaps there should have been a statement by Matt or Jan to that effect at the end to clarify!

    Anyhow Day One purchase very likely now, just need to sneak down to Sainsbury's on the bike and get a Steam Wallet Gift Card, so the wife can't monitor my hobby spending!
     
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  16. vendys#6021

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    I've tried HD mode many times, but I haven't noticed much improvement, it supposedly loads TSW in 4K format anyway and then reduces it, ...... but as I say, many hours of testing haven't brought any improvement in this area......but I've been testing on PS5 Pro for the last few months. Personally, I hope that Mittenwaldbahn won't blur textures, but it's just a hope...after all, n-Wagens weren't problematic for this behavior, and the traffic there isn't that extensive either, and I assume there will only be a few units of layers, maybe ten..... But we won't get anything from DTG anyway, so it'll either end with people not buying it or they'll go through trial and error and either it'll be ok or it won't......
     
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    I'm watching the German stream now, it has much better quality, but one thing seems unnatural to me on OBB 1020, and that's the locomotive frame, from a distance it looks so strange, I don't know if it's the color of the texture, but it looks like it's through some kind of filter, or like some kind of dirty glass.....
     
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    Last night’s German preview stream did a much better job of showing the product and alleviated my concerns (apart from the PS5 blurry textures issue, which was still not commented upon). I’ll just quote what I posted in the unofficial thread:
     
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  19. OldVern

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    Thanks for that report, almost 95% certain I will now grab this on release (well up from my 50% sitting on the fence). I particularly appreciate TSG’s commitment to the more vintage scene. Still think they would do well with a period Obereruhrtalbahn or Eifelbahn set in the classic diesel era. Add a 216, 211/212 or the Grail a V200 (221) to the roster. Day One.
     
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    Yes, that was the same for me. I put it on later and was able to watch the conclusion. I don’t know what happened, just thought it could have been at my end!!!
     
  21. hypospray

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    I hold my breath on this route until I see BA or someone else streaming it on XBox.

    The PC presentations and showcases have not much value anymore since release of TSW5 and the last few routes.
    It's just to many issues with clipping in scenery and mountains and awfully blurry textures.
    Hopefully some Ambassador will stream it on Console early, so we know what we get.
     
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