PC [mod Download] Tsw 4 And Tsw 3 London Brighton Timetable With Class 700 V1.06 (new Services!)

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  1. Isaak

    Isaak Well-Known Member

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    I've been testing it and really enjoy it, especially the 'unexpected weather' scenario in the journey. Not going to spoil it, but it's probably one of the best scenarios I've ever experienced.
     
  2. trainsimcz

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    So as im adding 9R services now, i would like to share some of my progress :)

    This is right now total of player services (its gonna be over 1700 when its done, i think like 1750 maybe)

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    Here is list of some services:
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    And then some users asked me to add Raildriver support for that FLU formation too, so here it is:
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    If everything will go well then maybe v1.5 will be released before Christmas :) It is still a lot of work which needs to be done.
     
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  3. BotiD_

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    Was anyone able to get this mod working on epic?

    I've tried everything...
    Or should I use TSW4 instead of TSW3?
     
  4. trainsimcz

    trainsimcz Well-Known Member

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    As i dont own Epic version its hard to test it.
     
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  5. squerble

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    Thank you so much for all your work to put this together!
     
  6. trainsimcz

    trainsimcz Well-Known Member

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    Ok guys, all services there, all simulated, include more then 300 new services with Class700 :) There is still some stuff which needs to be add but here is again some screens:

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  7. CK95

    CK95 Well-Known Member

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    I wish DTG would show some interest in this.
     
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  9. trainsimcz

    trainsimcz Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for your suggestion, i know about that page but i will still stick only with my website.
     
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  10. Sharon E

    Sharon E Well-Known Member

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    A great addition and, I note, the pis boards are displaying the new trains. If memory serves, they didn't in the TSW3 version.
     
  11. trainsimcz

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    Finally the version 1.05 is here. And what is new ?
    - include more then 300 new services
    - include Raildriver profile for that FLU version (for changing settings you need to first load the route so addon manager load all needed files and then you can go to the control settings and change Raildriver setting)
    - still missing some night services which i will add once i got timetable for them so version 1.06 will come for sure :)
    As usually, you can download new version here: http://www.trainsim.cz/?mod=article&showid=2724
     
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  12. Mikeboy

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    Just passed through Three Bridges on a Bedford-Brighton run, great how busy it is.
     
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  13. mldaureol2

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    Yes, Thanks for all your work on this Mod.
    Mike. :)
     
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    I've downloaded v1.05 onto my tsw3 but I cannot find the timetable which includes the class 700. How can I fix this?
     
  15. trainsimcz

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    Yeah you are right, its not working on TSW 3, very strange... im looking into it right now so i hope there will be a fix soon

    Just quick udpate on the problem... its not working with TSW 3 because it is using that new scoring system. Because of that, timetable is not visible in TSW 3. Im gonna create TSW 3 version with basic scoring for TSW 3.
     
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  16. Fawx

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    Absolute amazing work, I have two questions if that's alright.

    1. How did you edit an existing timetable, and then simulate it? I thought that wasn't possible with cooked timetables? Or did you actually rebuild the entire BML timetable from scratch?
    2. Is it possible to edit the textures in the cab of the FLU, to say FLU instead of RLU? Or is that not possible at the moment due to the issues with changing materials?
     
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  17. squerble

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    This is absolutely fantastic. Just running my first service out of Brighton after installing the new version. This is so great for one of my favourite routes. New stopping patterns and paths - fantastic!!

    Edit: If anyone from DTG happens to be eyeing this topic - anecdotally, I'm not seeing any negative effect on RAM usage. Perhaps a little more GPU MEM, but I'm at <11GB system RAM and <8GB VRAM running at a native 4K res.
     
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  18. CC Johnson

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    If you're alluding to the fact that DTG is always trying to conserve RAM usage, especially for Gen8 consoles, where afaik around half their player base lives, that's because these don't have dedicated VRAM but only one unified memory, and only around 8-12GB at that. (I think.)
     
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  19. cloudyskies21

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    Ah, how I so wish we had this for console. :( Considering how London Commuter is still such one of the most popular routes, despite it now being quite old in TSW terms, I think this means DTG should finally invest time into that much-need optimisation. Plus, if successful, a 700/1 loco DLC would no doubt be very popular too so surely it's a win-win?

    I sill can't believe that the Class 700 finally came to TSW... but for the tedious Rainham-Dartford services for SEHS. :|
     
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  20. ice#6850

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    Hey already made a class 700/1 to go with the new time table
     
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    Yeah the 700/1 definitely should not be a loco dlc, it should have been included in the Class 700 pack. It's not different enough to warrant charging another £12. Especially since as mentioned, it already got made for this Timetable (albeit without the interior minor carriage differences.).
     
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  22. squerble

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    I feel like I'm being unfairly prioritised when running a service.

    I'm running service 9T34:
    • I stop at Balcombe for 3 minutes, departing at 14:23. Behind me is a 12-car Southern service which departs Haywards Heath at 14:21, and starts to catch me up.
    • I have to then stop at Three Bridges, departing at 14:29. The other train has already caught me up.
    • I now go to Gatwick Airport, Platform 3, with a departure time of 14:36. The train behind goes into Platform 4 and has a departure time of 14:32.
      • However, on approach to Gatwick I have green signals, and my route is already set ahead of the 12-car train now beside me on platform 4. This train should have priority ahead of me but the route for my service has already been set. It even closes its doors and moves a few metres forward before being stopped by the red signal.
    I'm not sure if TSW prioritises player services by default, or if this is just a downside of adding in the 700 services to a already-busy timetable, or this is one service I just happen to have taken which has this priority, but I thought I'd report it. I'm not sure what the Southern service is but if you're able to see inside the default timetable then it's whatever service to London Victoria departs platform 4 at 14:32. I would assume it's a service from Brighton and so could be the 1403 Brighton to Victoria (1A35).

    That said, the departure out of Gatwick for 9T34 is very cool with a 700 and 377 duet running in the opposite direction as I'm changing tracks.
     
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    I ran 1A35 as an experiment and it's definitely that service. I also faced a red signal at Gatwick when I should be allowed to go ahead of the 700 so this must be something in the timetable.
     
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    It'll be due to service priority number, or dispatch beyond most likely.
     
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    This is an amazing addition to BML. With all these Thameslink services layered on top of Joe's already busy timetable, I am seeing no drop in performance on my pc. This has always been my favorite UK route and it is just reinforced as such. A great, big thank you to the creator.
     
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  26. Fawx

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    Some of the Class 700/1 services don't have drivers when under AI control. This is at Redhill at 2pm, heading North.
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  27. trainsimcz

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    1. Yes i rebuild the whole BML timetable and then i added extra layer for Class700

    2. Its possible to edit textures, its not final version of the mod, still some services are missing, i will even update Journey mode as it include only services which i added before. So yeah... texture in cab will be updated.

    Yeah i know there is no drivers, i dont tick that box for player trains to spawn with driver... i will fix that with next update.
     
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  28. Fawx

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    Damn, that is a lot of services to rebuild. Holy hell. It was enough sticking the 300 total services in my TVL timetable, very well done. That's some serious dedication.
     
  29. ice#6850

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    When do you plan on releasing version 1.6
     
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    When its done... v1.05 was just released so dont expect v1.06 anytime soon... it will be released next year for sure (jan/feb). Maybe i will release just quick fix v1.051 which will fix those drivers, wrong PIS informations on services to gatwick airport and one service platform changing. Adding new services require a lot of testing and simulation and that takes long time...
     
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    Mind-blowing! I remember the (well deserved) praise for Joe for building the original timetable - but at least Joe was being paid for it! To re-build the entire timetable (and add a load more services) in your spare time and give it away for free is an incredible effort. Thank you.
     
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  32. Zeremony

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    Earlswood, Salfords & Horley now have a proper service which is great!
    The dispatcher definitely prioritises Thameslink trains with the existing Southern and Gatwick Express services normally getting held which often delays trains around East Croydon & Gatwick.
    However it makes the "vanilla" services, especially GX, a lot more interesting to drive with a lot of yellows.

    Any chance you remove the "diverted" Southeastern trains from East Croydon to Redhill as I imagine they were put in to fill the 30 minute gap between Reigate services but now just seem unrealistic.
     
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    Yeah the diverted ones probably aren't needed anymore. The 700s really bulk up the timetable, and I'd imagine the 375s are probably causing more congestion than their should be.
     
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    Not my experience. I've only done one service (a Brighton-East Croydon Thameslink one), but I arrived 11 minutes late at East Croydon because the dispatcher held me at Gatwick Airport to let a GX and a Southern out before me despite them having later scheduled departures.
     
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  35. trainsimcz

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    Which services are those ? Are you able to give me numbers ?
     
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    I think they mean all of the 375 services:
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    Here is probably last fix for this year as i would like to enjoy my Christmas free time with my family. So here is version 1.051 which is fixing some problems.
    Changes v1.051:
    • fixed support for TSW 3 too, so now its working in both simulators again
    • fixed PIS for services going to Gatwick
    • fixed ghost drivers for player trains, now drivers are back at work
    • fixed skipped station for 9R services going from Gatwick
    • fixed platform for service 48 and 50, now they should not block the path
    As usually, you can download new version here: http://www.trainsim.cz/?mod=article&showid=2725
     
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  38. mldaureol2

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    Thanks for all your work.
    Hope you now enjoy your Christmas.
    Mike.
     
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    Thank you so, so much for your work. This is a fantastic mod, bringing even more enjoyment to the Brighton route!
     
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    Amazing work, trainsimcz! I'm currently taking my first steps at creating a new timetable for the (much simpler) Main Spessart Bahn, and can't imagine how much work you must have done and how many hours you must have spent to create this amazing timetable. Extremely nice job!
     
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  41. Jamy

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    I'm struggling to get this to show up in TSW3 not sure if I'm doing something wrong but I unzipped the folder after download and placed it here
    E:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Train Sim World 3\WindowsNoEditor\TS2Prototype\Content\DLC upload_2023-12-19_19-21-36.png
    I have the 700 for SEHS
     
  42. squerble

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    Did you definitely get the latest version? v1.05 was released, but then v1.051 released to make it work on TSW3 (which it didn't in the original v1.05).
     
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    Yeah here is the version I downloaded
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    I just drove my first 700/1 service, 9J16, a Gatwick to Peterbourgh run. This new timetable is so much fun. I really do not see any issues with the GWE service that are in there and I passed one when running this service.
     
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    Same issue on TSW3, not showing up for 1.051
     
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    That is very strange... yesterday when i was testing it before release, it all worked fine... I reupload the file 1.051 again, i did test before upload and it all worked, try to redownload the file... maybe i put wrong file into the archive before
     
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    Same... maybe i added wrong version into the file, i just reupload that 1.051 version... before i did that i tested that file now and it is working. So try to redownload now
     
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    yeah working now after I redownloaded. cheers
     
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  49. JustWentSouth

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    This is such an awesome mod. BML already had a wonderfully insane level of traffic. Now it is even more chaotic - and I get a front row seat with a widescreen view.

    Thank you!
     
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  50. all aboard railways

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    This is what we begged for dovetail to do but once again the modding community has come to our aid and i have to say this is a gem best mod release ever by far better with the itsya165 sound mod as well also a 12 car 700/1 is tops this is a must have for all PC players of the game
     
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