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Mod: Southeastern Highspeed Fence / Barrier Enhancements

Discussion in 'PC Discussion' started by Task, Feb 4, 2021.

  1. Task

    Task Well-Known Member

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    So after the first preview stream many of us complained about the lack of fences and barrierers around the High Speed Sections of Southeastern Highspeed. After that the developers placed a few barriers on the route. The problem is now that they are way too high overall and completely unfitting in other places. So Der Flo and I created a mod together to fix this.

    The mod is available for download here: https://rail-sim.de/forum/filebase/entry/6605-dtg-southeastern-highspeed-zaun-lärmschutzwand-fix/

    Here are some before / after pictures.

    SEH-Fence-Enhancements_4.jpg
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  2. mclitke

    mclitke Well-Known Member

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    Brilliant, route is not released yet and we are already getting improvements! Gonna get that before my first drive this evening :)
     
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  3. JayTG123

    JayTG123 Active Member

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    Nice one! Would be nice if DTG could alter this officially in the upcoming patch
     
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  4. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

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    It kinda begs the question as to why DTG can’t do it right after two attempts..
     
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  5. Mr JMB

    Mr JMB Well-Known Member

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    Awesome!
     
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  6. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    They must've been so upset at the community for "complaining over some fences" that they just threw some oversized fences on the route as a joke and to shut us up...
     
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  7. mclitke

    mclitke Well-Known Member

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    After seeing the wall in the last stream, I already had a feeling of "we only have time to get some sort of fence in at this point, surely the PC modders gonna enhance that within hours"
    Poor console players...
     
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  8. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    We feel neglected.
     
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  9. SonicScott91

    SonicScott91 Well-Known Member

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    This fence mod is how I envisioned it to look like when DTG said they were going to add some fences. The ones added are too tall and make it look really claustrophobic around the entrance of London Tunnel 2. I'm glad feedback was taken in and fences were added in the first place but the ones here definitely look much better.
     
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  10. mattdsoares

    mattdsoares Well-Known Member

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    The fact that you two were able to throw this together before the route has even been officially released just highlights how much of a headscratcher it is (or passive aggressive TAKE THAT) that DTG responded to the fencing issue by slapping a Trump wall down miles of track where it shouldn't be.

    Oh, and thanks. I think this is a day 1 download for everyone in this forum on PC.
     
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  11. matinakbary

    matinakbary Well-Known Member

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    No offense, but please talk for yourself. I know it's easier to say something and describe it as a 'WE say this and that' but I don't think this is the right way to argue. You still have a valid point and are totally entitled to your view of this matter. But then, I ask you very kindly, speak for yourself, not for everyone. Again - don't want to be impolite. Just keeping the discussion in a good environment.
     
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  12. Cramnor

    Cramnor Well-Known Member

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    Amazing, thanks for doing this so quickly and sharing it here! Looking forward to the first run on this route now :)
     
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  13. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. If two modders can get it right at one attempt, then I don't get why dtg could not after two tries. It's like they didn't care
     
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  14. ZeenozPlays

    ZeenozPlays Well-Known Member

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    Argue? It's a simple statement. "I feel neglected" wouldn't have worked well in that sentence.

    WE (Console Players) feel neglected because DTG leaves inaccuracies in the game, and WE can't do anything about it because WE can't download the mods to fix the issues WE have.
     
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  15. tallboy7648

    tallboy7648 Well-Known Member

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    That is 100% true unless dtg fix the issues themselves via updates
     
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  16. Der Flo

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    Tbh this is version 8 ;)
     
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  17. hightower

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    Excellent work guys. Seriously.
     
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  18. Scorpion71

    Scorpion71 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent!

    Downloaded and installed in preparation for route later this evening
     
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  19. byeo

    byeo Well-Known Member

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    I think they do care, it's more to do with time constraints and pressure from those above.
     
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  20. Dinosbacsi

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    Damn, that's amazing. This mod is a must get if I ever buy this route.

    As others mentioned, it begs the question why the devs couldn't do it themselves, but hey. They added fences, and a mod improves them. Overall this is a joint efford resulting in a happy ending, lol.
     
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  21. Doomotron

    Doomotron Well-Known Member

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    Even better... DTG actually releases this as part of the actual route on all platforms, which is what they should have done since the start.
     
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  22. rpeterbroughlowe

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    Andy chance of putting the correct OHLE on the Tilbury line adjacent to HS1?
     
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  23. Task

    Task Well-Known Member

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    First HS1 would need the correct OHLE. Well the problem is we don't have the assets for that (I think).

    EDIT: If someone would create those assets for us, we could replace the ones on the route so we are open for a collaboration.
     
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  24. rpeterbroughlowe

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    The HS1 OLHE is at least representative and not far off at all.

    Just use some of the MK3 catenary from GWE, it would at least be a start!
     
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  25. LucasLCC

    LucasLCC Well-Known Member

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    I've never downloaded a mod for TSW before, but this will be a must download for me. It makes a world of difference.

    DTG - Please can you make these changes yourself. It's such a huge yet simple change.
     
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  26. Task

    Task Well-Known Member

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    For the HS1 tracks or for the other tracks?
     
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  27. DB628

    DB628 Well-Known Member

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    Console cant get Mods.
    So DTG work Hard to make it correct
     
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  28. Monder

    Monder Well-Known Member

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    This is just me guessing, sadly haven't had the chance to ride HS1, but considering it's basically built on an LGV platform with all the safety systems, constructions etc... wouldn't it do fine with LGV catenary from LGV DLC?
     
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  29. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

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    Impressive work, thanks!

    Obviously too much hassle for DTG to do it properly, it seems..
     
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  30. rpeterbroughlowe

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    For the domestic line adjacent. (C2C, tilbury line, LTS, TLL) I think that covers it.
     
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  31. chieflongshin

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    I would guess this comes down to developer time in creating. That said; I wonder how much time it took the modder to adjust it which makes me think the same as to why we're buying a dlc that is enhanced by a modder so soon. I'm sure there is a reason but I need cake to see the clarity..... Brb.
     
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  32. Dominik Tuchowicz

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    If they did, it shows who they are....
    We are the buyers anyway...

    Also if they get used to new stuff being patched by modders on day 1, they will get used to release semi crap to be fixed via DIY...
     
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  33. skyMutt

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    You two just singlehandedly made me regret having a console :D
    Nice work, I think these new fences fit in very well!
     
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  34. w2sjw

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    Patiently waiting on whatever tricks you might have up your sleeve regarding this route! :cool:
    Over at TSC, ItsYa165 already has an intermediate sound mod up for the 395, and I hope he ports his 377 sound mod & generic announcements over to the 375...
     
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  35. londonmidland

    londonmidland Well-Known Member

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    I’m already working on some SEHS mods myself. I’ve replaced the station announcements and posters. Here’s what I’ve done so far;
    AB8433C2-B083-4453-8CF9-80C2485BF87F.jpg DAEBE727-A5E6-48E8-8C1F-FB69EFCE3F7E.jpg
     
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  36. skyMutt

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    Correction:
    Now you three have singlehandedly made me regret owning a console :D
    Seriously, keep up the great work! While TSW isn't known for its vast modding community, the work of people such as yourselves goes far as to greatly enhance the immersion of some routes, and I'm sure there's plenty of folk on these forums that appreciate the effort!
     
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  37. GrayDawg

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    I must say, color me impressed. Both by the looks, and how fast it was released. Well done guys, and thank you for sharing it with the rest of us. Much appreciated.
     
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  38. Anthony Pecoraro

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    Exactly.
     
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  39. w2sjw

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    Coming right out of tunnel #2 with the new fence mod is like night & day 100x better! SEHS_02.jpg
     
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    Looking forward to it!!
     
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  41. Mr JMB

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    A question for modders: is it possible to move the invisible walls so we can explore the map a bit further? I was thinking the other platforms at St Pancras and Ebbsfleet which are in full view but out of reach.
     
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    Iˋve done a scenario (with the ingame console, not the Scenario Creator) where you drive from Ebbsfleet lower to St. Pancras as a Southeastern service, so no EST Platforms.
    https://rail-sim.de/forum/filebase/entry/6604-ebbsfleet-lower-st-pancras-intl/
    You can´t pass an invisible wall without the console, in this scenario the wall is going through the train, wich can pass it, but the player can not and i donˋt know if you can remove them. :(
     

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  43. Mr JMB

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    That looks great, will try it out tonight, thanks!
     
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    Have to say awesome job with the fencing it feels so much better leaving the tunnel than what it did when I saw the stream!
     
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  45. fakenham

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    Great looking mods, thanks very much for developing these, much appreciated.
    Now if we could only tone down the Giant Hogweed in certain places....
     
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    How much of Ebbsfleet platforms 1-4 are modelled?
     
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    Thanks. I’ll create a separate thread containing what I’ve done so far so I don’t clog this one up.
     
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    I think everything, but not very detailed and the platforms are way too low for the Javelin 20210203211318_1.jpg
     
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    Shame you don't put pictures alongside those of the real fence, which would be more helpful than what DTG did (which was ripped apart, obviously)
    That way people can comment on it the same as they did DTG's efforts.
     
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    The platforms you're on are lower on purpose as they are for the Eurostars. How is it on the centre platforms? I'm surprised there are some of the infrastructure signs down there and not some of the more prominent scenery like shelters and benches.
     

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