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Nec North: Boston - Providence And Then Some

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by thearkerportian, Jun 10, 2019.

  1. thearkerportian

    thearkerportian Well-Known Member

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    Moin,

    anyone else thinking some piece of NEC that's actually useful would be nice to have?

    General

    Location: Massachusetts/Rhode Island, USA
    Era: Modern-ish
    Length: 96 kilometers/60 miles (Oak Grove - TF Green)
    max speed: 241 km/h/150 mph
    # of passenger stations: 32 (incl. subway)
    Service types: Subway, Commuter, Regional, InterCity, HighSpeed, Cargo
    # of tracks: 1-4
    Electrified: Boston-Providence

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    Lines included at least partially:

    MBCR (Boston South - TF Green Airport, Boston South - Stoughton)
    Acela Regional, Acela Express (Boston South - Providence)
    MBTA Orange Line (Oak Grove - Forest Hills)

    Suitable vehicles (among others):
    MBTA F40, GP40, MP36, HSP46
    MBTA B/CTC3, B/CTC4
    MBTA 01200 series
    Amtrak Acela Express
    Amtrak ACS-64, HHP-8
    Amfleet
    any cargo engine

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    Boston South Station

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    Providence

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    Stoughton

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  2. Thelonius16

    Thelonius16 Active Member

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    Great proposal.

    I'm really in favor of adding complementary components like the Orange Line that aren't exactly part of the main focus of the route. That adds considerably to the immersion.
     
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  3. thearkerportian

    thearkerportian Well-Known Member

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    Same here very much! Like adding the PATH to NECNY, or even more gimmicky, the JFK Airport Train to the LIRR. Driverless. You could only ride it as a passenger, apart from some shunting in the depot perhaps.
     
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  4. raildan

    raildan Well-Known Member

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    Really good idea. There's just so many possibilities on this one.

    DTG mentioned not only this route, but THE WHOLE LINE from Boston to New Haven in the November survey (see thread here: https://forums.dovetailgames.com/th...the-november-survey-discussion-i-guess.15376/), but I don't know if DTG would ever actually make such a long route. This is a much better option, and I really like all the small fright branches as well.

    The subway is also a nice touch, very different driving experience than other routes. And all of this on just one route!

    (And nice Google Earth tracing... I end up getting carried away with those and making graphics out of them, never actually getting around to writing actual route proposals. Believe me, I have a few ideas here... too many actually, lol)
     
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  5. thearkerportian

    thearkerportian Well-Known Member

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    Thanks! Well if they're making the route longer than my idea was, why would I stop them! But honestly, if I had to pick between New Haven and the Orange Line, I'd be with the T. They can still expand to New Haven by extension for the DLC later on. :)
     
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  6. mrchuck

    mrchuck Well-Known Member

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    Mbta would be awesome to drive on train sim world someday in the future.
     
  7. potatopenguin

    potatopenguin New Member

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    There's also something in it for DTG because the drive-able Orange Line/North Station commuter rail, MBTA commuter rail stock, and Acela are 3 opportunities for DLC that would require minimal additional effort and would be well worth it for me.
     
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  8. thearkerportian

    thearkerportian Well-Known Member

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    Yep! I could totally see the route coming out with only the ACS-64/Amfleet and CSX freighter we know already, one MBCR train and an Orange Line train. Later DLC could be an HHP-8, the Acela Express, the new orange line train they're currently rolling out, another loco for the commuter rail, the bi-level or single-level coaches (depending on what the route comes out with in the first place) and so on and so on.
     
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  9. mrchuck

    mrchuck Well-Known Member

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    If they do Boston they’ve got to include the Haverhill line.
     
  10. raquel2017k

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    Dovetail Games? Can you do the MBTA Subway-commuter rail/amtrak train service in train sim world 2? Here's is a list of the line for the subway, Passenger, and commuter trains. boston Red Line between Alwife to Braintree branch and ashomt branch, the subway cars are in this line 1500 1600 1700 series, Boston Orange line oak Grove to Forest Hills, subway cars are the 1200 series, Amtrak downeaster Boston north Station to Maine, sets are the P42, 5 amfleets and a f40ph NPCU, Amtrak NEC boston to New haven, Locomotives are Acela Express, amtrak Aveila liberty (which is the new acela train, ACS-64, HHP-8, AEM-7, GE E60, 9 Amfleets, Mbta commuter rail boston south station to Worcester-Framingham , boston south station to Providence-Stougton, boston north station to lowel, Boston North Station to haverhill , locomotives are F40PH-2C, F40PH-3C, HSP-46, Kawasaki Hyundai rotem CTC-4 Bilevel coach and cab car, MBB Pullman standard CTC-3 single Coach and cab cars, DLC locomotives and subway cars and a subway line only for the Mbta . subway cars for the orange line new subway cars 1400, red line 1800, New red line cars 1900, mbta blue line, green line A line, B line, C line and D line, Trolley sets are type 7, type 8, new green line type 9, And 2 locomotives which is the MP36PH-3C and the Gp40mc. I like to see the third rail Sparks on the boston Metro. i would to like to see them in train sim world 2 intill the next Roadmap. Thanks you Dovetail Games.
     
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  11. jeremydunn8

    jeremydunn8 Active Member

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    They could sell this route for $50 with all the content. I love all of the different options, from Metro to high speed and everything in between. For freight I would suggest bringing over the CSX locomotives as an extra layer.

    One thing I would add is being able to run both the new and old Acelas, but I understand that’s a lot of locos even without that.
     
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  12. raquel2017k

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    Ok. Because I lived Massachusetts.
     
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    Just a word from the wise, DTG probably won't directly respond to this thread anytime soon. If they see enough posts and general interest from the community though, they might take initiative like they did when lots of people requested the Bakerloo Line. Also this line might not be possible due to licensing, or maybe even social distancing restrictions (though I fail to understand how a cab ride has a high risk of exposure, just strap the camera on and let the train go). So I wouldn't be constantly pestering the crew about this yet. ;)
     
  14. Anthony Pecoraro

    Anthony Pecoraro Well-Known Member

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    I think they would only do the NEC section. I don't think they would include the subway or branches.
     
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  15. jeremydunn8

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    Yeah it seems like they always leave out something even when it’s requested. But hopefully we could convince them otherwise; DTG needs a good route for once with lots of variety. Like I said, I’d pay $50 dollars or probably more if everything in this post was included, which is the MBTA subway and commuters, Amtrak high speed and regional, and freight services (which wouldn’t take much work besides adding a CSX freight layer ported from SPG). This would definitely be worth the money, and I’d buy it right away given these criteria.
     
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  16. raquel2017k

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    Yeah. I like to the boston subway Sparks on the third rail, And I like to see if they Can use the PA system on the stations and Trains. drivers who use the old subway cars, uses the Microphone to connect to the PA System tell what next stop is. the new ones uses the Automated Pa systems.
     
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  17. jeremydunn8

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    Microphone would only be useful in multiplayer, if that’s coming to the game. I’d prefer just automated announcements being added until then, but maybe they’ll have multiplayer by the time they would consider this route, idk.
     
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    I'm going to guess it'll be on there before Roadmap 278. That seems like enough time ;)
     
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    So if they Do The MBTA And Amtrak Dlc Pack with the announcements and the Overhead wires and the Third rail Sparks on roadmap 8 or Roadmap 9 or 10 in train sim world 2, they would do the live stream in YouTube in the future.
     
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    The Dlc would include Freight trains, Like Conrail, Csx, And Providence and Worcester railroad.
     
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    They Have to Include all The DLC Pack.
     
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    mrchuck Well-Known Member

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    The MBta commuter rail route might be on the next road map.
     
  23. jeremydunn8

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    What gives you this info? Have they announced interest in this route? If they have, that would be great, but I feel like I would've heard about it, so I'm curious how you're getting this.
     
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    YES! YES! MBTA Commuter Rail and Amtrak NEC Between Boston to New Haven And Amtrak downeaster, Between Boston and portland maine is coming on Train sim world 2! For The Mbta, They might have the Single Cab Cars And Coaches, And the double Decker Cab cars, And Coaches. They can do the MP36PH-3C, Original F40PH, F40PH-2C, F40PH-3C, Gp40mc, And the Hsp, 46. They might add some non revenue locomotives for towing diesels or Coaches,
    Or freight duties. And For Amtrak NEC, They use the Acela Express, Aveila liberty, ACS-64, HHP-8, AEM-7, And 9 Amfleets. And For Amtrak Downeaster, p42, 5 Amfleets and NPCU F40PH Cabbage, they might be south of Massachusetts or North of Massachusetts. But there's one Question. How did you know is the next Roadmap? I'm just curious. And there's one More question. Will they include the MBTA Subway lines?
     
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    the Next roadmap Is coming soon! Hopefully the MBTA Commuter rail with the Amtrak NEC And Downeastern is next.
     
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    By soon, you mean one week after Tuesday, correct? Either way, I doubt we’re gonna see this happen any time soon.
     
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