Neckartalbahn: Heidelberg - Neckarelz From Tsg Discussion Thread

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  1. Puddington Bear

    Puddington Bear Active Member

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    They're improving the steam physics. The article says so and Lukas confirmed it on TSC Discord last night they've been at it for about three months now.
     
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  2. aaronthomas1a

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    I saw the map of this to bad this route only few place away from Mannheim and Heilbroon to link up with both routes
     
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    Bm234 in the shots.
     
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  4. OldVern

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    IIRC didn’t they have fabric style seats or in 1974 would they still have been plastic/vinyl?

    In any event, I think this DLC will need a “Sore Bum” achievement for spending more than 30 minutes travelling sat down as a passenger in these coaches!
     
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  5. AmityBlight

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    That's something I've been thinking too. Linking the route to Mannheim in the north and Heilbronn in the south would have made for some interesting route hopping opportunities. Just think about how jarring it would be... arriving at Mannheim from K'lautern in a 425 and hopping to the other route to take over a 23. And then changing into a 111 at Heilbronn :D

    But it would also have added a lot of length to the route. I'd rather have a moderate-size but detailed and beautiful route, than a long and barren one.
     
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  6. lux#4689

    lux#4689 Well-Known Member

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    And what would that bring us? According to german forums, the steam trains stopped at Heidelberg and went back ...
    They did not continue on
     
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  7. DominusEdwardius

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    The biggest issue with extending to Heilbronn is well, Heilbronn itself. In the era it is enormous and would be something of a nightmare to even do. Ontop of that we don't really want to have a Liverpool Crewe situation where the track consumes so much memory and affects performance considerably that it degrades the final product and just results in empty yards and poor performance or worse crashes. That and the BR23s only actually really worked over the Neckarelz Heidelberg section anyway.
     
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  8. AmityBlight

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    OK, those are some good arguments! As I said, I prefer a shorter but well-made route over a longer but lackluster one :)
     
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    Why is a steam train running under overhead wires?
     
  10. e.leerentveld

    e.leerentveld Well-Known Member

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    Because not every stretch of track was electrified, some services ran with steam engines (until 26 October 1977 in W.Germany). The steam hauled trains would eventually branch away from the electrified section or continue beyond the electrified part..
     
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  11. solicitr

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    However, this is TSG; they really are very good at that sort of thing. Vide for example the blue/ivory 218 they did - for free - including a redone 1980s cab, analog clock, Indusi 60 and all. And on Niddertal they didn't just slap in the DTG 363, they carefully backdated it as a 365.

    Here of course to be correct they would have to take it back another step, to 261 (i.e. original V 60(s)) configuration, but knowing them, they'll do it.
     
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  12. Puddington Bear

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    I agree. Although they said it's gonna be a steam / electric route, the map shows industrial branches and whatnot that still need shunting. And since we're not getting another steam engine for that task and the DB never had electric shunters, they will have to deliver it with a diesel shunter to make it work, before external layers.

    I've just grown a bit anxious when over the last year with TSW maybe.

    Let's hope for the best.
     

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