Well the timetable is like that because the signaling broke it. Mta also doesn't give dtg access to reference material, not even permission for photos or sounds so that's probably why there is not much about the diesel fleet.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't start making a route without finalizing licensing. Only main logical reason is the route will be announce sooner than the UK or GE route.
don’t know what to think but given DTG’s track record with US content, I’m not surprised. If it’s anything, I really do hope it’s JUST licensing issues, but I’m sure they just aren’t anywhere near done. Hoping it isn’t another NYT sized mess.
They’ll move mountains for UK and German players but all that’s left for US players are excuses and empty promises. We really need a third party team like Rivet or Skyhook that’s based in the US, that curates/builds locos and routes to the same standard that UK and German content receives.
Exactly how is the WSR getting remastered and Matt said there were no plans to update older content, oh btw that's few months OLDER than the LIRR. Just say it only applies for UK content...and as far as the other person's response, I don't want to hear "permission or access to reference material" MTA would've gave them reference for the diesel passenger services..MTA didn't mind...And even if that was the case, what was the point of ATTEMPTING LIRR with Hunterspoint Av and LI City in the game, which 100percent deals with diesel double decker services.No excuses...
If you watch the devstream, one of the devolopers (Liam I think?) did it as a personal project to learn the various systems of making a route. It wasn't picked/planned officially, nothing to do with the age. The developer just wanted to do it, so they did. Matt also said he was doing the same on a route, that might/might not come out. My bets would be it's Clinchfield since he's said previously he wants to update it.
One can easily find an online timetable. Getting access to a train or any reference material is the hard part about mta. Dtg have already explained that mta doesn't let the devs get any reference material like sounds or photographs. They only allow branding. That becomes an issue with subway routes where Google Earth may not show the track layout. So the routes they've done can be seen online and things were provided from the community like the sounds on the m7a.
Perhaps they put the US route on hold after playing Railroader... (Typing this while about to haul another load of logs out of Connelly).
Lol but honestly i hope they are playing it. There's a lot they could adapt for TSW that would make the freight gameplay so much better.
My original quote was referencing locos that don't need to be made since they already EXIST in TSW, so the new loco for that route would be the P32 or M8 as DTG only does 1 new loco per route.
Today was highly disappointing for US content. I’m not going to speculate on the reason for the lack of a teaser as that would be pointless without having any information. However, it’s a little bit hard to swallow alongside all the attention given to UK content. I understand that DTG are a UK based company, but that’s no excuse for so clearly favoring one region over another when they charge the same price regardless. Things happen behind the scenes, that’s understandable. But DTG could have talked more about NYT fixes just released and upcoming. Something to demonstrate some actual care for US content (and customers). DTG: please prove us wrong.
I hope NYT receives further improvements. A few lingering issues with this route are, 1. lack of NYC skyline between Hudson River Portal West tunnel in NJ and Sunnyside in Queens 2. While the alerter issue is removed from most trains, it still sounds on a few trains in the route 3. When the ALP46 locomotive is trailing behind a consist, it's tail lights are off. 4. A few trailing ALP46's have their headlights on when it should be the tail lights instead I noticed in the roadmap for this month that there is no roadmap for January 2024. Does this mean that we won't find out what the next US route is until February of next year. Hopefully there is a teaser revealed for the next US route sometime between now and mid January. It appears from what we know so far, I believe the next US route is something that Cactusjuice is working on. Knowing this, I estimate it takes place somewhere along the Northeast Corridor or on one of Metro North's East of Hudson lines. I might be completely wrong but that is what I am guessing.
I feel like the route will be announced later this month, which is why it never was teased on todays roadmap.
I really hope it’s one of those. My top pick would be New Haven, but Hudson would be great also. Hudson makes sense: there’s already an M7 & M3. Easier on development. While I’d prefer New Haven with an M8, DTG might favor the more expedient option. Regardless, we need a good, busy NYC route using the newest features. But it needs to be good! Not another Trenton debacle.
The 1st US route has been in a 0-3 months status since the September roadmap so it should be right around the corner, anytime between now and the 1st week of January. The 2nd US route should be revealed sometime in spring 2024 based off the ETA we have seen so far. I am not sure what happened to the US loco DLC that was on the November roadmap. Part of me feels the devs are still working on it to ensure we do not run into the same trouble that NYT first experienced. If that is the case, then that is good. But if not, I think the reveal is right around the corner, maybe Christmas
I would hope the Hudson Line goes up to Poughkeepsie. If the P32AC-DM is included, there will be many different possibilities for scenarios and services, such as Beacon's Super Express, limited express services, and various services with Amtrak's Lakeshore limited and Ethan Allen Express
I was disappointed too as to not much of a word on the stream on anythig going on with US content just brief bit about the SD70 ace content after someone asked about stuff in game. I hope DTG gives some word info soon I kinda fear people are loseing confidence in US content releases it been 3 months soon to be 4 and nothing on a US route..dont look DTG needs to give us something to hold hope ..seems too the licensee. issue come up these co dont want or care to bother ...maybe they need to just do routes they alredy have licensee. For until they get accepted for new one ...think that why oakville hasnt got the upgrade they talked about cause go transit via no licence
I'm surprised that the DTG did a great on Modeling the M7/A and the M3/A even tho they didn't have any reference material or photographs. But tbh here DTG could have easily contacted Fan Railer who is widely known for his Mods and Sound packs WHICH could have been provided to DTG free of Charge. I just hope if the Next USA route comes with the M8, DTG will do an excellent job modeling it.. I mean we already have an ALMOST excellent M8 in Train Sim Classic... Although it came with BR Class 395 Sounds...
If that's the case they also will have to do the MNRR and Amtrak version of the P32 as not including either variant of them will probably cause a ruckus
The reason I think it will end at Croton-Harmon is that is where the 3rd rail stops. That way we get a new Amtrak train and they reuse the M3A and M7A for the Metro North services. Also DTG seem to like services that are about 1 hour at most for passenger trains. Although Antelope line strayed from that time frame.
Given DTGs track record, it wouldn't surprise me if they only included an Amtrak P32AC-DM and not Metro North's version cause reasons. of course doing either operators P32s would require new passenger stock. Metro North would require the Shoreliner cab car and cars, while Amtrak would require a baggage car and long distance Viewliner equipment.
I believe at most, the M3A and M7A would be reused, and DTG would do what they did with the TSC version of the Hudson line which was feature both Amtrak and Metro North liveries of the P32AC-DM. Amfleet I coaches would be reused and Shoreliner cab cars and coaches need to be made. It would be great to throw in the M8 as a bonus, that way we have all passenger rolling stock for Metro North East of Hudson lines with the exception of the Brookville Bl20GH which is used primarily for branchine shuttles and work service. Realistically, the only way we see an M8 is if the New Haven Line was created, but there have been instances when the M8 runs as a fill in for Harlem and Hudson line services, then once their run is completed, they may deadhead back to GCT or to the yards
This would be a total gamechanger - one/two new carriage types and you would have such a massive difference with the Amtrak consists. I would also love to see this route be done - I spend a lot of my time in Penn on NYT staring at the Empire Connection tunnel portal, and imagining how great it would be to be able to use it. The stretch south of Croton-Harmon is so nice to look at and full of unique points of interest, both scenically and operationally.
Agreed, the Hudson line is my home line and it would be great to see it represented in TSW4. If the line went up to Poughkeepsie, even better
Yeah, it would be very nice to finally have an US commuter route (other than Peninsula Corridor) that is actually complete and it goes from end-to-end. There is just something about arriving to the far end of the route, usually a bit quieter terminus with just a few tracks.
As far as the add-on for the US route, I'm hoping it's either more liveries for the ATSF F7, or perhaps some matching passenger cars and/or period appropriate freight cars (including a caboose), or the SD70ACe NS heritage units. As far as the US route, give me something that's not the northeast or California.
That is just crazy and upsetting at the same time as it prove that DTG doesn’t give love to the US Community side. It’s crazy that they didn’t even extend the Harlem line to the last stop already . I really do hope that won’t be the case.
WSR is getting a scenery facelift and a steam timetable. LIRR is such a godawful mess it would have to be torn down and entirely rebuilt.
I don't see it that way. Rather you buy the Amtrak once for $15, and it layers into everything from Sand Patch forward (where appropriate to RL). Adding two services should not be much of a timetable challenge.
At a guess, this is a big, ambitious project which is taking more time than anticipated. Not a Glossop or even a SH.
I hope this route is worth the wait.. after the disastrous release of NY - Trenton, I don’t have much faith left in this company. My hope is that this new route releasing (hopefully soon) will put some more faith back into me when it comes to this company and my trust in them with U.S content. Personally, i only play TSW4 for U.S content because it’s really the only thing I have a passion for.
It needs a redone signalling and scenery work. Both of these things has been done to several routes already. Then a new timetable.
Yeah, the diesels are definitely needed for the services that originate at Hunterspoint Ave. I really hope DTG can revamp the LIRR route. Heavy work would be required to bring it up to modern standards. The track work, scenery, TOD, and signalling would need to be redone. The current M3 and M7 are in good condition but the M7 needs tweaks done to the sounds of the propulsion when slowing down
I got all excited when I saw this thread. Then I realized it was a bump from 6 or 7 months ago! People shouldn't do that unless they have something really meaningful to add. Back to the doldrums.
New users tend to bump necro threads for no reasons other than to get their 2 cents in without looking at the date of the last post.
