Train Sim World 3 Pinzadave's Livery & Scenario Creation Thread

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    The power cars were used in the early 1980s for testing the APT , which may be what you saw.
     
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    Yep. My dad worked at Paxmans on Quality Control. He'd certainly approve of the mod :)
     
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    Perhaps though actually after a few seconds of thought it can't have been as I would have been working on the railway by the 80s and I believe it wasn't long after I'd got in from school as I had to stay there a bit longer that day as I had been in trouble and I remember feeling the luck of seeing it! I am sure there will be some record somewhere to prove or disprove my memory though!

    Edit: It must have been before '75 as we moved house to a different village where the line were in a small cutting and I would have needed to be on one of the bridges to see it and I remember I were at track level.
     
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    Ooh, it gets more intriguing, Matt, it must have been a very early move. Apparently the prototype did 100,000 miles on ECML before moving to GWML in 1974. I had always thought it started out on the Great Western, but apparently not.
     
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    100,000! Must have been one of the test runs then I saw it on then as the timeframe would make some sense.
     
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    Back home and some more What ifs... to upload. This time, LNER shunter 3317 and LNER Twins 8043 + 8100

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    A couple of coaches needed uploading to fill the breach: LNER Teak FK 4148 and LNER Teak TSO 7603, both GWB coaches.
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    Sometime over the weekend, there are 2 more to upload (I think) and then the scenario...
     
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    Last 2 to upload for 'What if...' - HSTs in LNER and LMS colours! LNER 4316 'City of Kingston upon Hull' (again) and 4317 are in Apple Green and Cream colours and the MK3 stock is in Teak livery. The LMS rake - 14707 'County of Cheshire' and 14708 are in the Coronation Blue and Silver livery, along with their MK3 coaches.
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    The 'What if...' scenario is now available on the Hub - named "What if - LNER & LMS 1974 (NTP)" It uses most of the reliveried items I've uploaded for 'What if...', so you will need to download rather a lot. You will drive LNER Green 1509 'Blink Bonny' over the Pennines from Leeds to Manchester Victoria, calling at Dewsbury, Huddersfield and Stalybridge. Enjoy the scenery and the rolling stock of an alternate reality!
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    3 new loco liveries uploaded - I like the fact that the GCR has 2 steam locos with similar numbers - LMS Black 5 5305 and LMS 8F 8305 and so I've done repaints of them, and added the 4F too as 4305, although this loco never survived into preservation.
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    A few more uploads: LMS 5-plank wagons, in Grey and Bauxite; and LMS 12T van in Bauxite
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    If the LMS and LNER are out there... the GWR cannot be far behind! Here are some 'What if...' GWR liveries for your pleasure. More to follow, but for now:
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    Also EE Type 3 5773:
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    Brush Type 4 6041 'Great Western' in GWR Green and a Met-Camm DMU in GWR Choc & Cream passenger livery
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    What if... GWR HST!

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    What if... Southern Brush Type 4 in Malachite Green. I'm not happy with the shade of Green. Anyone got the codes for this colour?
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    What if... scenario for GWE just uploaded. Lots of repaints required - sorry - with much of the above GWR stock.
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    A few more steamers, this time in GWR livery. Yes, I know there are no GWR locos in TSW, but there are some similarities in the generic designs.
    First is a look-alike Collett 2251 Class in GWR Green as 3202 and in Black as 3241. A repaint of the PFR LMS 4F.

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    Next is a look-alike Churchward 2800 Class in GW Green, one as 2806 with 'Great Western' lettering, and the other as 2818 with 'GWR' lettering. Repainted from the PFT LMS 8F. The uploaded model of 2806 does not have the GWR Crest on the tender sides.
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    Finally, the least effective look-alike - considering that the LMS Jubilee was probably based on GWR locos (since Stanier was an ex-GWR man). The repainted Jubilee looks most like the Modified Halls, which is why I've numbered it accordingly, as 6998. 6998 was named 'Burton Agnes Hall' by the GWR, a name I always thought was odd since Burton Agnes Hall is in East Yorkshire, just about 20 miles from where I live! Repainted from the LPC Jubilee.

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    Somebody please save me from these steam engines! I keep finding new ones to repaint!
    Here is LNER J19 8264 in LNER Freight Black livery. Repainted from the PFR LMS 4F
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    And what I think is my last Steamer for the moment - LNER Thompson O1 3773 in LNER Freight Black. Repainted from the PFT LMS 8F
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    A comment from earlier made me look at something I hadn't considered when I did the What if... sequences, and here are the results - 1977 Silver Jubilee repaints for the What if LNER:
    Brush Type 4 1510 'Quicksilver'
    MK2 FK in Silver
    MK2 TSO in Silver
    Mk1 BG in Silver
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    Also, I reckoned that a HST would look good in this livery too...
    4325 'Silver Jubilee' and 4352 'Queen Elizabeth II' and matching MK3 coaches
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    I like the silver liveries they are very striking. :D
    I also find myself drawn to the GWR steam locos and wonder if I should do something with them on WCL.
    Out of interest, have you ever made anything based on the prototype Deltic livery? I think that would look good in-game.
     
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    Need a Deltic to try that on!
     
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    A couple more steamers on the Hub. A BR Green 8F and a BR Black 8F - both with 'British Railways' lettering!
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    More Billy Bunters to play with - this time historically correct ones!
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    LNER DES 1 EE 350HP 8000 of 1944 vintage in NE Black;
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    I thought I'd got steamers out of my system, then I thought I'd have a look at the TSW4 Livery Designer and Flying Scotsman.
    Came up with these:
    GNR 1470 'Great Northern' as built in 1922 (except for the design changes inherent in the Flying Scotsman model)
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    GNR 1471 'Sir Frederick Banbury' in retro GNR Green livery
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    L&NER 1472 'Flying Scotsman'. Built in 1923 - the first loco built by the LNER, 1472 initially received this intermediate livery with the GNR number 1472. Not long after, the number was changed to 4472 and the ampersand was lost from the initials. It is possible that the loco only received its nameplates when renumbered to 4472.
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    Here are the triplets together:
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    Ooh they are nice liveries Dave. I particularly like Sir Frederick. :)
    Are you planning to make any GNR rolling stock to go with him?
     
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    Its really odd. Thesre's a pic online of 1471 in this livery, actually its a painting, but I don't believe the real loco received the livery, at least there's no mention of it, so I presume it received standard Apple Green GNR livery, same as 1470. The darker livery had gone from the GNR in the late 1800s.
    As for rolling stock, my Teak liveried LNER MK2s would be the right colour for both liveries. I have no plans to do the MK1s atm.

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    I was literally looking for a GNR Pacific livery on the CC yesterday, this is great coincidence! Well done on the liveries, keep up the good work :)
     
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    Hi Lawrence,
    Pleased I could help, although I'm surprised anyone would be looking for a GNR Pacific!! :D
     
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    Well I'm a fan of the GNR's rolling stock and Pacific locomotives in general. I think the GNR gets overlooked a lot when regarding the A1, even though they were the ones for which they were designed and they were also the railway ordering the first examples, including Flying Scotsman. I found a number of different A3 liveries already, so I decided to go look for a GNR one, and this thread popped up a few hours later :). I love the retro livery too, great colour imo!
     
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    I agree that the GNR are seldom recognised for their loco progress, the A1 was a game-changer! They seem to be overshadowed in the LNER by the NER, although ironically, their 4-6-2, designed by Raven, was not as good as the GNR version and was not as attractive!
    I've just uploaded my final version of 4472, in 1924 LNER Green. See below.
    A question - do you happen to know which coaches are used by the TSW4 Flying Scotsman, as I might have a go at Teaking them!
     
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    Last 4472 for a while - I think!
    4472 in 1924 LNER Green with both number and lettering on the tender. The cabside has the LNER crest, or a rough representation of it!

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    It uses maroon Mk 2's, but I don't know if those are just a reskin or their own seperate model...
     
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    wow, nice :) you just inspired me, maybe I will also create such a thread :) although I dont usually do such nice, clean and sleek ones as you seem to do, I mostly try to make my imagination run wild - except my renditions of CityJet "4124" and CityShuttle-like stuff :)
     
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    Inspiration comes from many places. Most of the time I'm copying from the real thing. But its been interesting to do my What if..s too. Enjoy your own journey, have fun!
     
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    Discovered the MK2 coaches used by Flying Scotsman are specific to the Peterborough - Doncaster route (PBD) and are available for reliverying. However, I don't have the correct items in my Livery Designer for the Teak graining, so I'll have to wait until I can get it. The MK1s used by F.S. are labelled as TTC, which I presume is The Training Centre. These are reliveryable too. (Is that even a word???)
    Anyways, I had a few minutes, so...
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    LNER A1 4480 'Enterprise' in classic LNER Green livery but with GNR style tender lining and 1924 style number-on-tender. Named after the great ship USS Enterprise, of course!
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    LNER A1 2547 'Doncaster'. Built at Doncaster Works in Doncaster in 1924, but not named after either! Instead the name comes from a racehorse! This loco is in classic LNER Green livery with GNR style tender lining.
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    LNER A1 2550 'Blink Bonny'. Built in 1924, this loco is in classic Green livery with 1928 streamlined tender. Another racehorse namer, this loco inspired my 'What if... ' LNER Brush Type 4 1509 of the same name.
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    LNER A1 2577 'Night Hawk' was built in 1924 by the North British Loco Company on behalf of the LNER. Check out the worksplate. In classic livery with the GNR style tender lining.
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    LNER A3 2752 'Spion Kop' was built at Doncaster Works in 1929. By this time a new, higher-pressure boiler had been designed and locos fitted with it were designated as Class A3. Despite the advent of the streamlined tenders in 1928, 2752 is fitted with a GNR style tender.
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    Great work again, I love these liveries. Really brings more variety to the Scotsman's railtours I run. At this rate we might end up with the whole Class A1/A3 on CC at one point ;)
     
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    I'm working on another variation at the moment. Just needs a bit more work to the "tail end" !
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    And here she is: 60061 'Pretty Polly' in BR Green livery. I must say that Livery Editor does not make it easy by having only one side of the loco in the light. I really struggled to put the lining and finer details on the dark side! And its a shame we cannot add the loco number to the smokebox door too!
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