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Pzb Zwangsbremsung - My Error Or Bug

Discussion in 'PC Discussion' started by kalteVollmilch, Mar 30, 2020.

  1. kalteVollmilch

    kalteVollmilch Well-Known Member

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    There is a Speed-Check, a so called GPA or Geschwindigkeitsprüfabschnitt, if you watch closely you can see a PZB-Magnet and a couple of Metres later another two. Those Magnets check your Top speed since there is a Speed-Reduction to 120 kph at the End of the Platform/Next to the Main Signal. The Zwangsbremsung in itself was Legit, the problem is more the missing Advanced-Signal for the Reduced Speed.
     
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  4. kalteVollmilch

    kalteVollmilch Well-Known Member

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    Okay, so PZB behaved correctly, the problem is that whatever's supposed to tell me about the 120kph limit in advance is missing so I don't know that I should slow down.

    Thanks for the answer!
     
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  5. ProfCreeptonius

    ProfCreeptonius Well-Known Member

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    I have been summoned by the mighty hyperlord. Though I must disappoint him :(

    Unfortunately I can't tell you much revolutionary information. Yes, this is a 2000Hz GPA for the 12-Limit, and yes the Lf6 is missing. I've searched wide and far and unlike in the last situation, I couldn't even find a sneakily hidden Lf6. I'll keep looking, but I can't say much. All the helpful information I can give at this point is drive 135kmh in front of Essen Fronhausen. Then you won't get the Zwangsbremsung and also see the 12 in time to brake for it.

    The Lf6 should be together with the Distant signal before Fronhausen. Yet, it's not.

    Cheers,
    Prof
     
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  6. kalteVollmilch

    kalteVollmilch Well-Known Member

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    Alright, I'm back with more confusion :D
    This time, I drove RB33 heading towards Duisburg, when I got yet another Zwangsbremsung.
    Once again, I don't know why :D
    Video can be found at https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SQRqgvgIAfBXyN7OUByS_PSkX3OKNp9u/view?usp=sharing
    The Zwangsbremsung happens at 1:58.
    Don't mind my previous speeding, there is also a bug on this route where a certain piece should have a max. speed of 130kph., but somehow has only 100kph (if this isn't a bug and I'm wrong please tell me)

    Can someone explain what I did wrong or what was suppose to happen once more?
     
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  7. ProfCreeptonius

    ProfCreeptonius Well-Known Member

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    Guten Abend kalteVollmilch

    Unfortunately this again was not your mistake. Though here is my hypothesis:

    You got a penalty for WT nicht zeitgerecht betätigt, meaning you forgot to acknowledge something.

    See, on the signal immediately after the Lf6, which you did properly acknowledge, there was a blank Zs3 field. Though I think that in truth this should not have been blank and that a restrictive Zs3v was placed there, which obviously would've needed to be acknowledged and would've induced the Zwangsbremsung.

    Unfortunately there is no help here, this is another bug.

    DTG about time you patch these....

    Cheers,
    Prof.

    PS: For the Germans: WT stands for Wachsamkeitstaste = PZB Acknowledge
     
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  8. Anthony Pecoraro

    Anthony Pecoraro Well-Known Member

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    They had a hotfix the other day.
     
  9. kalteVollmilch

    kalteVollmilch Well-Known Member

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    This video was taken after the hotfix was released. In fact, both bugs shown in this thread have not been fixed.
    ProfCreeptonius thanks for the explanation, and nice to know that I was not at fault. I'll open another ticket
     
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  10. hyperlord

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    I already adopted and crawl with 40 km/h at both buggy places, it's not running late when less than 6 minutes (according to DB) ;-)
     
  11. ProfCreeptonius

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    Well-observed! ;P And if it's less than 15mins, you can get away without refunding tickets!

    Though this shouldn't be mandatory. If you want to be super cautious, a reduction to 15kmh+X, where X is the next incoming speed limit, should keep you safe from a 1000Hz/2000Hz GPA. Otherwise, just press Wachsam at every signal. I really don't know what else there is to do on player-side for now. It's all up to DTG when they patch this.

    Cheers,
    Prof.
     
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  12. 7orenz

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    Like I wrote in the other thread, in your vid, when you proceed at 140km/h (just before Essen West station) you need to reduce your speed to 120km/h but unfortunately there was no warning signal (yellow triangle with the 12) that say you to reduce the speed. And all the traffic lights are green.

    The good news is that this bug has been fixed and actually the service of 9:26am Duisburg Hbf-Essen Hbf work perfectly.
    They just moved the 120km/h max speed after the station and not before like happened in your video.
     

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