Liveries Rail 200. Preparations And Ideas For September.

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  1. rigsby#3981

    rigsby#3981 Well-Known Member

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    Hello there, can I just say I adore the 314, I like the Retro look. I feel the design language in the 80s was perfect in application to stock.
    Good stuff, are you looking at making a Rail 200 livery as TG08 could use someone of your skill:).
    I’m sure all members would too.

    Great work and some lovely screen shots.
    So if you do then just pop some photos of what you have come up with.
    If you would like any more information then I’m sure other members can assist you when they can.

    Thanks for sharing your work with us:)
    TSLP✌.
     
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    Oh your on :cool: Should we set a deadline for Tuesday or is that too soon?
     
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    Okay,,,you will learn one day tho. And no tricks this time:)

    So the rules and regulations or requirements. For Tuesday, say 17:00?. Could even make it a regular thing. Mmmmmmm;)?

    So come on Lad, Chop Chop,,,,gotta go.

     
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    Cheers buddy, we need to get yours finalised. I’ll DM you about it. Not use up space here like.

    Catch you in min or later.
    TSLP✌
     
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    I had been considering one, I just haven't a clue what loco to use. I'll need time to get back into the livery editor anyway
     
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    I have a few ideas for other things which we can discuss :) Sure that'll work for me
     
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    Okay well, if can quickly explain what we are looking for or even speak to TG08 as he will know what loco or even coach stock.
    He’s assembling the scenarios and we’re looking for liveries most Rail 200 Themed as well as others for Ai.

    The idea is to pull all creators work together like The Great Gathering but on TSW5. So anything goes really as long as it’s creative.
    But if you speak to TG08 he can give you more details about his needs now.

    Yet the main aim is to include all people of all skill and tastes to share liveries so these can be added when TG08 needs and also for possible adding more than one person livery for the TGG themed scenario.

    We can share and then enjoy walking around the scenario looking at the Communities fantastic work.
    Something to celebrate as a community for the coming Railway 200 event.

    That’s all the Team are looking for, the community to be involved with sharing their liveries etc for a community event on TSW5.

    And hey looking at more of what you do I wonder if there is something you could add. So your more than welcome to DM at any time if you have any further questions or ideas.

    Thanks for considering making a Rail 200 themed livery and the Team hope you can be involved by adding to this once in a life time Nationwide Event that is Railway 200 to celebrate the Birth of Modern Railway, that started in 1825.

    Thanks.

    TSLP✌, and from the R200 Project Team.
     
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    rigsby#3981 Well-Known Member

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    Okay I’ll try be back later, I have only gone and done it again. Stayed on line,,,Oh noooo.
    It’s getting addictive this.

    Catch ya later Alligator;)
    TSLP✌.
     
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    Hey aeronautic237 ,
    I just spotted your latest livery. It looks great. The NSE colours really fit the 313
     
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    Hey I feel bad as haven’t seen it yet, I may do some reading when I get time. Are we okay for NSE as a Brand not just colours, as this like many other TOCs I have wanted to do but worry like you often have.

     
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    I heard you were thinking about making a livery for R200 trainsimplayer :). I have some options for liveries as Lee has already explained above.

    AI Traffic:

    Class 87: InterCity Swallow (like 87002, but maybe with a R200-themed twist?),
    Mk3: InterCity Swallow (like LSL's Mk3 rake).

    R200 Exhibits:

    Could be any UK diesel locomotive, electric locomotive (just the Class 87 so far), DMU, EMU. It's your choice. As I have discussed with Lee and JPlayz last night, there is a lack of DMU liveries made thus far, so that's an option worth considering.

    However, it is your choice. All we are asking for is a R200-themed livery on any piece of UK rolling stock that is specified above :). And also, there is no rush, so take your time. Make the livery to the best of your ability of course :).

    I cannot wait to hear what you are going to come up with,
    TG08 :).
     
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    Looking good so far!
    I absolutely agree with rigsby. If you feel like making a livery or editing that one to have a couple of Railway 200 stickers on it, please do!
    My word you're fast! How did you manage that? Thank you, though.
    Is the NSE brand not just the colours? The red, white and blue running down the full length of the train? Is there a logo or something because I couldn't see one on the pictures I used.
     
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    I have my ways ;) lol
     
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    May as well put it here despite it being found already, but I decided to make an NSE-based class 313 livery. Of all the operators in the UK's history, Network Southeast is arguably the most iconic. A striking but simple livery that suited all of its stock.

    Now that I think about it, I probably should have made the 'Network Southeastern' livery for the 465 instead, but oh well.
    IMG_2025.04.13-19.03.40.jpg IMG_2025.04.13-19.04.17.jpg IMG_2025.04.13-19.04.38.jpg IMG_2025.04.13-19.05.02.jpg

    https://creatorsclub.dovetailgames.com/creations/213179

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    Yeah. It really is, not only from what I've been telling the community, but I have been enjoying it when I've been testing it too :). It's getting there!

    TG08 :).
     
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    Thank you TG08. The MK3 coaching stock is something that was first brought up and so I will investigate.
    These was to still along side 43 803 and other that’s will follow shortly. To be available at your disposal.
    I wanted some fancy elegant work for MK3s and so I will look into why we do not these now.

    My apologies on MK3s, I will investigate this soon, and thank you for the additional information.

    TSLP✌.
     
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    It makes sense that you may wish to make an NSE 465 as one is named "Chris Green" who managed NSE
     
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    Yeah. That and the fact that I believe it was made for the Railway 200 event.
     
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    No worries at all Lee. Just before you do anything, I meant loco-hauled Mk3s (from Preston-Carlisle), not HST Mk3s (from Great Western Express/Midland Main Line) ;).

    However, it would be great if you get that set finished for 'Pen y Darren' though, as when it is in Wembley Yard within the scenario, it looks weird with the GWR coaches lol :).

    TG08 :).
     
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    I can’t agree with you more on Icons, something I’ve always wanted to is. NSE,,could I make one fully Branded do you know?.
    And your Rail 200 logo, if I may the livery is looking great as per, but I see your using the number 2 as did in my earlier work.
    I soon found out this mistake when adding text. So if you haven’t already seen the step by step tutorial on a Rail 200 logo then it may help avoid any problems later on if considering adding text to the Rail 200 Logo.

    Other than that your doin some DMUs, really needed right now.
    So thank you so much from me and the Team I’m sure they will appreciate what your providing right now.

    Keep it up my friend,,it’s all positivity. Remember about environments;)

    TSLP✌.
     
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    Well, my livery hasn't been taken down yet, and I think it is fully branded, so I guess you can.
    Thank you, and I have been using the number 2. Where can I find this step-by-step tutorial?
    That'll be my next task. I only have 2 DMUs (the class 166 and the class 101). So I'll pick one and return with something soon.
     
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    I could be wrong as I’m going of memory form operational stock. So early slam door stock like 310s and 311s.
    I have to say I am working from memory so please don’t quote me. Because for comment on accuracy of the work on your 313 I’d have to do some homework. I’m not a pro when it comes to vast knowledge you guys have. JPlayz you surprise me with your knowledge lately.
    Again living up to your Nickname, Mr Mystery, what else you gonna come up with.

    Good man JPlayz. And again good stuff from you Jimbo:).

    I will do some research before making any defining statements.
    Don’t want to be a Big Mouth like in the Song by the Smiths.

     
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    rigsby#3981 Well-Known Member

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    I’ve heard of that name before. Nice one lad.
    ✌.

    Sorry running behind on communications.
     
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    It's fine really. Yeah I think Chris Green also helped out at Virgin Trains during their time on the WCML
     
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    Well that helps with my first part of the investigations. I’ll come back this tomorrow if that’s okay then?.
    Looks like I am not only painting rooms but now having to paint a full HST set,,,,Oh the Joys.

    You do realise if we was to be paid for this I’m sure I’d have My Bentley GT by now lol.
    I’ll be lucky to paid in chocolate coins for the painting too, hey ho. Lol.

    Thank you for the heads up tho.
    TSLP✌.
     
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    Maybe this could be our next competition;) Lol
     
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    I may start on something then, and I think your okay as colours and shapes can not be copyrighted. Only a Brand Logo if that too meets copyright requirements to be classed as so. Ie a license if I understand what I read correctly. So again don’t quote me:).

    I need to start doing more links as I can’t do them. But for the Logo Tutorial then head to The Works Shed and you shall find it there.
    You won’t miss it, it very recent too.

    If I miss out here tonight I’m not very good a fast paced exchanges. Bit on the slow side if I can say that,,,.

    Thanks tho Jimbo.
    TSLP✌.
     
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    I have heard that colours and shapes can't be trademarked, only brands, but I don't think Network Southeast even has a logo. I'm not old enough for this. I missed out!

    I'll take a look at The Works Shed now. Thank you!
     
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    What who paints one faster?. Guess you still haven’t learnt. Hahaha.

    But again I can be a gambling man so what do you have in mind Smart A%£#?. Hahaha.

    TSLP✌.
     
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    I can forward the steps onto here if that works? But you may have to wait until tomorrow.
     
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    Don't get too cocky ;) I'll DM you when I can so we have a plan :)
     
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    Here's a screenshot from a livery I did last year of Great Northern's 313064, with an NSE logo on it :). It is on CC as well, I'm sure it has been reported (in the past), but not taken down (yet) :o.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hey I may be older member here I wouldn’t know with out asking. But I only knew about what I do because of TSW, until then I knew a little about trains but I couldn’t fathom what it was all about. I lived in my own world as kid. Only now am I aware of what existed in the past.

    So when I say I am slow I mean that. Everyday there’s is also something amazing to learn.
    Hence you may have missed out like me but it’s never to late to learn what we have missed.
    We look to the past to learn where we went wrong so we can put it right in the future which is now, but now has just passed.
    Why because the hands of time pass even as I write this, when you get it, that too will be in the past. Gone.

    So don’t mis out,,,the clock is ticking my friend.

    TSLP✌.
     
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    There is a fine line between being cocky and truthful. But hey I’ll cut you some slack.

    Sure I’ve given up tonight kids did tidying and I’m having a brew before heading to work. Ie LE:)
    Lots happening again tonight. So sure we can catch up when we get five or just DM me. I will try responding as I have a few messages backing up now.

     
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    There isn't any available yet. We have to make it ourselves which is an additional challenge:)
     
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    Hello,, there not decals well none of mine are set decals. These are hand made, so to help the community I have placed a step by step tutorial on The Works Shed Thread. Sorry not sure how to add links:)

    But please if you go check The Works Shed out then you will find the Tutorial there.
    Thanks.

    TSLP✌.
     
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    Now that's weird, because one of the reference images I used hasn't got that:
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    No problem. I was thinking of DMing tomorrow only because it's getting later.
     
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    ah i see thank you
     
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    I'd imagine some did have branding, and some didn't :). However, my livery is a remake of this unit...

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    ...which was re-liveried specifically for the tour itself.

    TG08 :).
     
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    It’s okay, thank you tho. You have enough of your own work and I need to start learning how to do it myself really.
    So you can hold me hand if you want to explain one day:)

     
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    Thanks TG08 nice shot too. I may risk it then. Or Just email them to be on the safe side. I want to do more DMUs EMU etc.
    Shame as they are a popular livery.

     
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    I also decided to make a NSE Livery, but on something that never wore any BR Colours.
    This ain’t apart of the Rail200 thing but as we are talking about NSE Liveries I might as well put it on here
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    Is it worth the risk though? If you could email the company with the rights to the NSE logo, then at least that's a start :).

    That's good that you want to do more multiple unit liveries as well Lee ;).

    TG08 :).
     
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    I know we haven’t got any YET!. Why tho surely DTG would like to be involved and include Fans wanting be involved.
    Having a set Railway 200 Decal would most certainly help others that may want to make a livery or even share it here.

    Meaning if a user can not make a Railway 200 logo then we will not see their work.
    And why again I made the tutorial so others can be involved.

    Why should anyone miss out if it’s a National Event. I have been knocking on DTG doors, but like the rest all remain muted.
    I’m trying to help others as we all are here.

    So yes I will support and will endeavour to see if DTG would or like to get involved with this.
    Our Idea, not theirs.

    So thank you JPlayz for pointing this out. Why haven’t TSW users got a set Railway 200 Logo YET?.
    Sadly I can’t answer that.

    Maybe DTG can answer that question?.

    TSLP✌.
     
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    I agree. DTG have been very quiet on Rail 200. That's a bit odd for a company which makes content on railways
     
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    Hey this is the importance of a reliable source of information. With out knowing why units have things missing means understanding a lot of what went on during a restructuring process as an example. We seen this when Avanti took over the Virgin WCML contract.
    Runs to 2033 I think. Virgin livery was still on 390 sets.

    I struggle to get all sides as a source of reference so I am only working of what is intended for that period. This is so if something is at the hight of it’s success the fleet will look mint, where later on they may not if they have changed ownership etc.

    Could even be a simple case of you see it without. But then is booked in for new Decals that night.
    Why do I know this, because we would do the same with coaches. Patch them up and then work on them over night.
    The next day all nice and shiny. And as Intended as a fleet identity. Can’t have a scruffy looking fleet, and so would do all I could to get them in when operational gaps would allow me.

    Meaning running around for a day or two with a scratch or peeling decals before I get it booked in.

    TSLP✌.
     
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    Yes let’s just have fun and we can catch up say 19:00 as again I need to focus. I’ll explain tomorrow mate.

    Have fun for now.
    TSLP✌.
     
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    I have to correct you here. The VT livery was stripped from the 390s in 2020, but the voyagers would still have the livery until 2023
     
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    Sure it’s interesting stuff anyway. It’s good to see what the community gets up to.

    What class is that what you have done in NSE?.
     
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